The Gooner Forum

marcengels wrote:

franksav63 wrote:

BT wrote:I was thinking today that i haven't had one of wenger's excuses emails for quite a while...sign of the times (and what happened to the alternative version on here also?)

I, too, was wondering that today, and then thinking he rarely sends them after a defeat.

He's too busy on here Frank

Yes, Yes....

brazilianGOONER wrote:

1989 wrote:I've always thought Wenger's apparent intelligence was over-rated.

agree with you. i actually think he is stupid as a door.

i really can't understand how he managed to put together two of the greatest teams i ever saw when he had more money.

i think it was luck, you know?

Yeah, 5 years ago.

I don't think it's possible for anyone with a slight hint of intelligence to not see the weak areas in this team, to believe that this bunch of lightweight kids will dominate football, to refuse buying players because there are none that can improve the squad fearful also that new additions to the squad may "kill" his precious kids, to make Manuel fucking Almunia his no1 and back him up with Flappyarski, to let 3 top-class defensive midfielders leave in the space of 6 months only to replace them with Denilson, to put blind belief in shocking players like Walcott, Denilson, Senderos, Traore, Bendtner, Silvestre, etc, to hand over the captaincy armband to players who are absolutely and so clearly not fit to wear it, to throw competitions away every year because he foolishly believes that his team can win the big trophies.

I could go on but then this page would run out of space wouldn't it.

1989 wrote: to let 3 top-class defensive midfielders leave in the space of 6 months

WOW, gilberto was TOP CLASS when he left us?
and again (i'm getting pretty tired of that talk), he didn't want neither diarra nor flamini to go.

1989 wrote:only to replace them with Denilson,

no mate. to replace them with alexander song, who is doing a very good job, by the way. denilson is a cover who i also thought would be up to the task but clearly isn't.

1989 wrote: to put blind belief in shocking players like Senderos, Silvestre

to put blind belief in senderos? my goodness!!! haven't you seen how senderos was treated at the end of his arsenal carreer?? you are a joke.
silvester is also pissed of because we just hired a 35 year old from league one to be in front of him. you call that blind belief???

1989 wrote: to throw competitions away every year because he foolishly believes that his team can win the big trophies.

we are still in the champions league and in a good place in the premiership. i'm sure you wouldn't say this when we were at the top of the league. i'm also sure you didn't think we couldn't win the premiership in the season of eduardo's injury.

don't forget you are talking about the man who brought success unheard before, won an UNBEATEN fucking championship, got us to our first champions league final with the best defense in the history, brought us two doubles, a lot of cups, a wonderful stadium (one of the best in the world), a wonderful training ground, and most of all, made us a feared team through europe, something we clearly were not before him. the victories against milan, real madrid's galacticos and inter milan show what i'm talking about. he's the man who made the 'north london derby' a fucking JOKE because we destroy the spurs in the league every single time since he got here. the man who brought us henry, pires, campbell, ljungberg, vieira, petit, overmars, wiltord, lehmann, fabregas, van persie, vermaelen, arshavin. the man who NEVER let us get outside the top 4, even when he sells more than he buys.

arsène is nothing compared to the greatness of our club, he will always be *only* another manager that passed, even if one of the best ever (if not the best), but still we owe him a lot of respect and appreciation.

he was stupid and stubborn when he did not sign a keeper and a few other key players in the last few years, and i respect if you want him to leave (even though i disagree) but if you think he is not an intelligent man, i truly think there's something wrong with your head, mate. you should be checked.

ask anyone who is not a bitter arsenal supporter (bitter for losing the last few games). if you find anyone who says arsène wenger is NOT a very intelligent man, i'll eat my words with pleasure.

augie wrote:Should the advantage not go with the attacking team tho bg ? I mean why should they be penalised cos the offending team aint ready for them ? Wenger is a hypocrite......either it was ok for henry to score that way when he was with us and it was ok last night for porto too or it is wrong no matter who it involves. He cant have it both ways

augie i understand where you're coming from, but as much as people were ridiculing wenger last night for him saying they were wrong to take it quickly, i think hes right on this occasion.

my mate showed me a clip the other day of several inidrect free kicks in the box, and on every single occasion the defending team was allowed to get in position first before the attacking team took it. and even on a few times i distinctly remember the ref telling the attacking team to wait for his whistle while he sorted out the wall.

so i think the ref was wrong in taking the ball off fabianski and giving it to the attackers. do you not agree that in 99% of situations the ref there wouldve told the attackers to wait for his whistle? thats what puzzled me, it seems that in every other situation the ref there would allow the defending team to set up the wall.

MM99 wrote:

augie wrote:Should the advantage not go with the attacking team tho bg ? I mean why should they be penalised cos the offending team aint ready for them ? Wenger is a hypocrite......either it was ok for henry to score that way when he was with us and it was ok last night for porto too or it is wrong no matter who it involves. He cant have it both ways

augie i understand where you're coming from, but as much as people were ridiculing wenger last night for him saying they were wrong to take it quickly, i think hes right on this occasion.

my mate showed me a clip the other day of several inidrect free kicks in the box, and on every single occasion the defending team was allowed to get in position first before the attacking team took it. and even on a few times i distinctly remember the ref telling the attacking team to wait for his whistle while he sorted out the wall.

so i think the ref was wrong in taking the ball off fabianski and giving it to the attackers. do you not agree that in 99% of situations the ref there wouldve told the attackers to wait for his whistle? thats what puzzled me, it seems that in every other situation the ref there would allow the defending team to set up the wall.

I agree that in 99% of these situations the ref would not have allowed porto to score like that but by the same token I believe that those 99% would be wrong. In my opinion the advantage should always go to the team whose free kick it is cos otherwise you are just punishing them twice and allowing the "sinners" to re-organise

brazilianGOONER wrote:[.
silvester is also pissed of because we just hired a 35 year old from league one to be in front of him. you call that blind belief???

You haven't got a fucking clue

brazilianGOONER wrote: no mate. to replace them with alexander song, who is doing a very good job, by the way. denilson is a cover who i also thought would be up to the task but clearly isn't.

So you're going to ditch him just like that. What happened to standing by your man BG - You know what I mean

skipper wrote:

brazilianGOONER wrote:[.
silvester is also pissed of because we just hired a 35 year old from league one to be in front of him. you call that blind belief???

You haven't got a fucking clue

no mate, i don't. you think wenger has a blind belief in silvestre?? by making him rot in the bench?

MM99 wrote:

augie wrote:Should the advantage not go with the attacking team tho bg ? I mean why should they be penalised cos the offending team aint ready for them ? Wenger is a hypocrite......either it was ok for henry to score that way when he was with us and it was ok last night for porto too or it is wrong no matter who it involves. He cant have it both ways

augie i understand where you're coming from, but as much as people were ridiculing wenger last night for him saying they were wrong to take it quickly, i think hes right on this occasion.

my mate showed me a clip the other day of several inidrect free kicks in the box, and on every single occasion the defending team was allowed to get in position first before the attacking team took it. and even on a few times i distinctly remember the ref telling the attacking team to wait for his whistle while he sorted out the wall.

so i think the ref was wrong in taking the ball off fabianski and giving it to the attackers. do you not agree that in 99% of situations the ref there wouldve told the attackers to wait for his whistle? thats what puzzled me, it seems that in every other situation the ref there would allow the defending team to set up the wall.

Mate - 99% of Champions League teams wouldn't have got themselves in such a f**king mess in the first place! The ref didn't handle it well but we should never have been in that situation.

Cesc is the only one at the Club with enough decency to sum it up - schoolboy defending, as so many of our goals against have been this season.

Jumpers For Goalposts wrote:

MM99 wrote:

augie wrote:Should the advantage not go with the attacking team tho bg ? I mean why should they be penalised cos the offending team aint ready for them ? Wenger is a hypocrite......either it was ok for henry to score that way when he was with us and it was ok last night for porto too or it is wrong no matter who it involves. He cant have it both ways

augie i understand where you're coming from, but as much as people were ridiculing wenger last night for him saying they were wrong to take it quickly, i think hes right on this occasion.

my mate showed me a clip the other day of several inidrect free kicks in the box, and on every single occasion the defending team was allowed to get in position first before the attacking team took it. and even on a few times i distinctly remember the ref telling the attacking team to wait for his whistle while he sorted out the wall.

so i think the ref was wrong in taking the ball off fabianski and giving it to the attackers. do you not agree that in 99% of situations the ref there wouldve told the attackers to wait for his whistle? thats what puzzled me, it seems that in every other situation the ref there would allow the defending team to set up the wall.

Mate - 99% of Champions League teams wouldn't have got themselves in such a f**king mess in the first place! The ref didn't handle it well but we should never have been in that situation.

Cesc is the only one at the Club with enough decency to sum it up - schoolboy defending, as so many of our goals against have been this season.

agreed. schoolboy defending.

and schoolboy refereeing too