UNHAPPY?? MAKE A STAND. VS FULHAM

selsdon · Post by **selsdon** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 4:11 pm

We have never really threatened to win the league this year and you know it.

Glitch33 · Post by **Glitch33** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 4:14 pm

Keep a bit of perspective please.

Too many key players out of action for long periods has fucked the season up.

Whilst we could do with a couple more quality players they need to look at why we have suffered from so many injuries.

Despite that we are third in the most competitive league in the world.

selsdon · Post by **selsdon** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 4:14 pm

Have you missed Chelsea's and Utd's injuries then?

Swale_Gooner1985 · Post by **Swale_Gooner1985** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 4:15 pm

selsdon wrote:We have never really threatened to win the league this year and you know it.

Of course we have, we have been top on more than one occasion, we will fall short yes, but we have definitely challenged

Champagne Charlie · Post by **Champagne Charlie** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 4:15 pm

selsdon wrote:Maybe it would be better if we were just a mid-table team (as we were for the majority of my 45 years of supporting Arsenal).

How would you describe us now then, challengers? Don't think so.

Expectations come with the second highest wage bill in the land and highest ticket prices in Europe.

They ripped the soul out of the club with the move on the proviso we'd compete with Europe's elite - we can't even compete in North London thesedays.

Skyhigh ticket prices are due to mainly one factor. The players' salaries.

The move was Dein's brainchild. Yet he'll no doubt view himself as our kingmaker considering he introduced Usmanov/Kroenke to Arsenal...

selsdon · Post by **selsdon** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 4:15 pm

Fuck me I've read it all now - Dein to blame, lol.

Mr FINSBURY PARK GOONER · Sun Apr 18, 2010 4:16 pm

selsdon wrote:Show me a manager with 100% or even 70% success in the transfer market or bringing youth players up to grade

What youth players apart from Cesc has Wenger made first team regulars? You can use examples from his whole time at Arsenal.

ermmm.......

Cashly..........!!!

Clichy...........!!!

and Mr ****.

SteveO 35 · Post by **SteveO 35** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 4:16 pm

Champagne Charlie wrote:
selsdon wrote:Maybe it would be better if we were just a mid-table team (as we were for the majority of my 45 years of supporting Arsenal).

How would you describe us now then, challengers? Don't think so.

Expectations come with the second highest wage bill in the land and highest ticket prices in Europe.

They ripped the soul out of the club with the move on the proviso we'd compete with Europe's elite - we can't even compete in North London thesedays.
Skyhigh ticket prices are due to mainly one factor. The players' salaries.

The move was Dein's brainchild. Yet he'll no doubt view himself as our kingmaker considering he introduced Usmanov/Kroenke to Arsenal...

His choice was a debt free move to Wembley actually - still, believe what you like

selsdon · Post by **selsdon** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 4:18 pm

Mr **** I grant you but Clichy? Thru the ranks? Don't think so.

Bit of myth this Wenger bringing youngsters thru. He signs em, plays em in the carling cup, sells em.

Champagne Charlie · Post by **Champagne Charlie** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 4:22 pm

SteveO 35 wrote:
Champagne Charlie wrote:
selsdon wrote:Maybe it would be better if we were just a mid-table team (as we were for the majority of my 45 years of supporting Arsenal).

How would you describe us now then, challengers? Don't think so.

Expectations come with the second highest wage bill in the land and highest ticket prices in Europe.

They ripped the soul out of the club with the move on the proviso we'd compete with Europe's elite - we can't even compete in North London thesedays.
Skyhigh ticket prices are due to mainly one factor. The players' salaries.

The move was Dein's brainchild. Yet he'll no doubt view himself as our kingmaker considering he introduced Usmanov/Kroenke to Arsenal...
His choice was a debt free move to Wembley actually - still, believe what you like

And I quote:

He also tackled the issue of rebuilding Highbury, although his bond scheme was initially ill-received by the fans.

Now he is set to drive through the new Â£400m stadium in nearby Ashburton Grove.

Here's the full article:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 262081.stm

Mr FINSBURY PARK GOONER · Sun Apr 18, 2010 4:22 pm

selsdon wrote:How do you judge success in the transfer markets? Trophies?

In that case he has a 100% failure record these last 6 yrs.

in all honesty since 2005, Wenger has not spent big.

And since 2005 there is not one player purchased that i would rate as any of his best buys. Or player he's really developed.

in all honesty the best player post 2005 was Adebayour. (nuff said) lol.

storrmin571 · Post by **storrmin571** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 4:22 pm

That Volcano had f)_k all on me at full time. I want to go into the dressing room and throw stuff at them, wake the F@:k up, don't you know you are playing for The Arsenal not some 2 bob team? type of rant, get everyone out of their comfort zones, transfer list the whole f:@king lot.

yeahbaby · Post by **yeahbaby** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 4:23 pm

olgitgooner wrote:Whatever happened to the old fashioned idea of supporting your team??

Sure, we're all pissed off at surrendering a two goal lead v Wigan. We're all pissed off at our recent lack of success.

But FFS appreciate what we do have at Arsenal.

Maybe it would be better if we were just a mid-table team (as we were for the majority of my 45 years of supporting Arsenal). That way, we wouldn't have high expectations. And we wouldn't get disappointed.

The idea of walking out before the lap of honour, is just disgusting.

blind support is more damaging than holding your team accountable. They haven't shown the passion the fans have so why should they receive our appreciation?

Mr FINSBURY PARK GOONER · Sun Apr 18, 2010 4:25 pm

selsdon wrote:Mr **** I grant you but Clichy? Thru the ranks? Don't think so.

Bit of myth this Wenger bringing youngsters thru. He signs em, plays em in the carling cup, sells em.

Cesc was brought in the same was Gael.

SteveO 35 · Post by **SteveO 35** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 4:25 pm

Champagne Charlie wrote:
SteveO 35 wrote:
Champagne Charlie wrote:
selsdon wrote:Maybe it would be better if we were just a mid-table team (as we were for the majority of my 45 years of supporting Arsenal).

How would you describe us now then, challengers? Don't think so.

Expectations come with the second highest wage bill in the land and highest ticket prices in Europe.

They ripped the soul out of the club with the move on the proviso we'd compete with Europe's elite - we can't even compete in North London thesedays.
Skyhigh ticket prices are due to mainly one factor. The players' salaries.

The move was Dein's brainchild. Yet he'll no doubt view himself as our kingmaker considering he introduced Usmanov/Kroenke to Arsenal...
His choice was a debt free move to Wembley actually - still, believe what you like
And I quote:
He also tackled the issue of rebuilding Highbury, although his bond scheme was initially ill-received by the fans.

Now he is set to drive through the new Â£400m stadium in nearby Ashburton Grove.
Here's the full article:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 262081.stm

It's known that the rest of board did not support him in the choice of Wembley so the Grove was the fall back position. Then they got rid of him - two fantastic choices that have served the club really well ever since