Mate gave up his S/T. B/O have asked for a letter to confirm

Post by **flash gunner** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:46 pm

Its a difficult thing really I think its a bit harsh to have a go at the OP as the things he has written are the things we all have moaned about and if he doesnt want to give his money to the club when he doesnt agree with how they spend it then he has the right especially in these hard times but also you have to follow your club through thick and thin even if we are having more thin times than the DB10 days....... Maybe he didnt explain himself well enough

marcengels · Post by **marcengels** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:47 pm

They have more information, sports science has moved on, they have incredible facilities....I could go on.

I think to earn the money that these guys get paid they need to be super fit as standard, then demonstrate characteristics of winners, characteristics of men who take responsibility and take charge - which takes them over and above any athlete.

Post by **QuartzGooner** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:50 pm

marcengels wrote: I think to earn the money that these guys get paid they need to be super fit as standard, then demonstrate characteristics of winners, characteristics of men who take responsibility and take charge - which takes them over and above any athlete.

Totally agree.

It has been the lack of the "Winning Mentality" since the 2007 - 2008 season that has really upset me.

merson_is_god · Post by **merson_is_god** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:51 pm

Its such a shame that your mate has decided to lose his season ticket...

But that means I'm nearer to getting mine!!

donaldo · Post by **donaldo** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:53 pm

marcengels wrote:They have more information, sports science has moved on, they have incredible facilities....I could go on.

I think to earn the money that these guys get paid they need to be super fit as standard, then demonstrate characteristics of winners, characteristics of men who take responsibility and take charge - which takes them over and above any athlete.

You only have to watch us when we play Man Utd or Chelsea to see you need more than fitness.They have a winning mentality we dont

This Is The Daybreak · Tue Jun 22, 2010 4:05 pm

To put things into view a bit as well, QPR charge 700 pounds for a season ticket. I pay 850 for mine and if you think that you're seeing some of the best players, Champions League football in one of Europes finest stadiums for 150 pounds extra it puts things into perspective a bit...and QPR are a mid table Championship club.

Post by **brazilianGOONER** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 4:23 pm

QuartzGooner wrote:So this bloke started watching us 1995.
Coveniently in time for joint greatest period in club's history.
Now things get a bit tough he turns his back?

No doubt there are issues with the team which we debate at length on here, and if he has financial problems then I can understand that, but for any other reasons it is nonsense.

For me and many it is a case of "To have and to hold, in sickness and in health"

I have very little time for fickle fans.

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Goose · Post by **Goose** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 4:44 pm

QuartzGooner wrote:So this bloke started watching us 1995.
Coveniently in time for joint greatest period in club's history.
Now things get a bit tough he turns his back?

No doubt there are issues with the team which we debate at length on here, and if he has financial problems then I can understand that, but for any other reasons it is nonsense.

For me and many it is a case of "To have and to hold, in sickness and in health"

I have very little time for fickle fans.

Agreed! I might not like the fact that we have not invested (in the team) but when watching arsenal through the early eighties I never once thought of turning my back.

If the guy had chucked his ticket in through lack of cash I could understand - as that is the only reason I would give my season ticket up.

Cesc is God · Post by **Cesc is God** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 4:44 pm

Wow. We're not winning anything, so he gives up his support. Jesus...

xDAVEYx · Post by **xDAVEYx** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:00 pm

i wish i had one to CONSIDER relinquishing

merson_is_god · Post by **merson_is_god** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:02 pm

My Dad had a season ticket for only one season...in the North Bank for the 80/81 season. Not a lot happened in that season!

My Great Uncle has had a season ticket since 70/71 but sent it back to Arsenal in protest when Charlie George was sold to Derby, he asked for it back six weeks later!

BT · Post by BT » Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:15 pm

The correlation between what we spend and what the club spend is the main bone of contention with me though, and one I think the club frequently ignores, especially Wenger when he goes on about '13 years CL qualification etc' but neglects to mention that the club has squeezed out or put into debt its most loyal supporters.

What players get paid is relative to the market and if anything we moan that our wages our too rigid. What we pay isnt relative though. Fulham pay Â£200 a year and had European football. Likewise Barcelona or Inter Milan season tickets. When I tried to get a single for the scum home game last season, it was Â£92! The friggin' opera is no more than Â£50. That said, I don't think giving up a season ticket will change that - there are better ways to get that message across.

Number 5 · Post by **Number 5** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:42 pm

Man's got a point if you ask this mother fucker.

The dude was 14 when he got his first season ticket. 14. Not his fault he wasn't shot out of his fathers balls many years earlier. I was 15 when Bergkamp first signed and like to think I have a good appreciation of the past but in reality I guess I know little more first hand than the Wenger years really.

But I tell you what if I had a ST and they wanted me to stump up again this year, I'd think twice. Especially if Fabregas does end up leaving. I have witnessed first hand someone I can genuinely say is one of the supreme talents I have seen in my lifetime be totally fucking wasted at the club. It's not like we're developing Steve Morrows or Ian Sellys and signing the John Jensens and Glenn Helders to go along side them. We've had Fabregas and continued the Jensen and Helder policy to go alongside him.

That shit hurts man.

USMartin · Post by **USMartin** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:47 pm

For me and many it is a case of "To have and to hold, in sickness and in health"

I have very little time for fickle fans.

You sure you he doesn't mean "To be had and to hold on while while they put it up your arse, in cheating and in deception"

Look loyalty works both ways no - or are those supporters who compare this to a marriage the type that if their catch their husband or wife cheating instead of confronting them for fear of losing them will just ignore it rather than risk losing them. Who will go so far not to lose them as even driving them to and from their lovers then fixing them breakfast after waiting all night in the car for them to finish shagging?

We are owed the same loyalty and trust from the Board we have shown it or at least we should call the Board what it is if its unwilling to give us that little at least - typical greedy businessman no better than anyone else in the business.

treygoony · Post by **treygoony** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:17 pm

Just out of curiosity, how much was a ST in the 70's??? Doubt it was Â£1200 or however much the ridiculous prices are today.