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Be a shame to lose him, he is very talented and probably in a better side would shine even more so I say pay the money, I think he was better than cesc this past season.
Let's be honest the whole world is going bust so these footballers are trying to get the last suckles of the golden tits.
In five years time there will be more bust teams than solvent ones IMO once tv money starts to rapidly decline and supporters numbers also.
Even the Chinese are now producing more steel and coal than they are using, once their bubble bursts so will everyones, dark days ahead.
Right I'm off for a game of golf, sun is shining and I gotta get some practice in for a stag weekend in Bournemouth starting Friday, have a nice day :)
Catch 22..... Do you pay mega bucks to keep your best players in the hope that this will win you a trophy.....or do you refuse to pay mega bucks because they didn't win a trophy with the result that they leave.....thus making it even less likely you will win a trophy the following season.....
One thing that seems certain to me is that the like of Wilshere and Ramsey will be more unsettled by a player of the quality of Nasri leaving than by paying him an inflated salary to stay.
rigsby wrote:Just sell him. I really can't be dealing with a long contract saga. Half a season doesn't make you Cesc Fabregas.
Absolutely agree with this - people need to seperate a player who is worth that amount from a player who plays alongside shite and looks over-valued as a result. Players like cesc have produced for this club over a number of years whilst nasri produced 3 good months before xmas and has been invisible ever since Personally I suspect that he is trying to price himself out of staying with the club cos he wants to join a club that will win trophies but he could get a surprise when wenger agree's to meet his demands as he is known to over-value a lot of the players we have
Sell him for good money and rebuild a midfield with real balance and proper wingers
rigsby wrote:Just sell him. I really can't be dealing with a long contract saga. Half a season doesn't make you Cesc Fabregas.
Absolutely agree with this - people need to seperate a player who is worth that amount from a player who plays alongside shite and looks over-valued as a result. Players like cesc have produced for this club over a number of years whilst nasri produced 3 good months before xmas and has been invisible ever since Personally I suspect that he is trying to price himself out of staying with the club cos he wants to join a club that will win trophies but he could get a surprise when wenger agree's to meet his demands as he is known to over-value a lot of the players we have
Sell him for good money and rebuild a midfield with real balance and proper wingers
the problem here to my mind is not nasri. if hes aking for £110g pw, then thats the going rate for top players nowadays. the problem is, when you paying rubbish like, eboue, denilson, bendtner etc £50g pw, when they shouldnt get that a year. problem is if u dont pay the going rate, were stuck with the afore mentioned dross for next season, and with an extra 6% on top of what we seen this year. u do the maths. sign him up.
Sounds like an agent trying to get the most for his player, which is what agents are paid to do, and as they are on commission they get more money if there is a wage rise.
If our main playmaker Cesc goes, which I fully expect him to do, then Nasri would be shrewd to hang around for next season. He may get to play in his favoured central attacking midfield position, maybe not. But more of the play should come through him and his stock should rise.
DERRY GOONER wrote:the problem here to my mind is not nasri. if hes aking for £110g pw, then thats the going rate for top players nowadays. the problem is, when you paying rubbish like, eboue, denilson, bendtner etc £50g pw, when they shouldnt get that a year. problem is if u dont pay the going rate, were stuck with the afore mentioned dross for next season, and with an extra 6% on top of what we seen this year. u do the maths. sign him up.
Understand your line of thought but overpaying a player is overpaying regardless of who the player is - by paying nasri 110k per week it lifts the bar for all the players in the squad who will then seek higher wages as a result. Yes we might be talking about different ends of the spectrum here but in the same way bendtner and eboue are not worth the wages they are getting so too I would say that nasri is not worth 110k per week either. As a club we have to be more on the ball about what wages we pay our players and if that means paying quality like cesc 150k per week as a result then so be it but the rest of the squad need to realise that they have to work harder and actually acheive things to reach that level.......in other words performance based wages and on that scale nasri is nowhere near a 110k per week player
As I predicted in the first half of the season when everyone non arsenal was adding him to their dream teams. I said he would phase out and his form would stop. When he first joined he also had a phase of scoring lots of goals and again his run stopped.
Nasri isn’t worth 115k a week. He had a few good months after the high of being a hero at the lane when he scored those penalties. Some great goals after that but he isn’t consistent enough.
Great song and capable of scoring a great goal but I really don’t think he is the player we need. He wont ever play in the middle even if Cesc goes as Jack and Ramsey have that role locked.
We would be better suited selling him and replacing with A REAL WIDE MAN THAT CAN CROSS THE BALL!!!!!
No coincidence to me that the more successful clubs have all given in to player demands.
Arsenal have been really good at refusing to pay inflated prices for players and refusing to meet inflated wage demands..... And where has it got us? 6 seasons without a trophy but a very healthy looking set of financial results!
It's all about market rate. If we want to keep the player then we have to be prepared to pay what someone else would pay him. Utd did this very publicly with Rooney last season - and even though they looked like mugs they ended up winning the league and the debacle about being held to ransom was long forgotten!
MK Gould wrote:No coincidence to me that the more successful clubs have all given in to player demands.
Arsenal have been really good at refusing to pay inflated prices for players and refusing to meet inflated wage demands..... And where has it got us? 6 seasons without a trophy but a very healthy looking set of financial results!
It's all about market rate. If we want to keep the player then we have to be prepared to pay what someone else would pay him. Utd did this very publicly with Rooney last season - and even though they looked like mugs they ended up winning the league and the debacle about being held to ransom was long forgotten!
But Rooney was in a team of winners that has won several trophies over the last few years. With him gone they would have a serious chance of not winning the league.
If Nasri goes we might not finish 4th? Doesn’t have the same ring to it.
Point is if we lose our best players is that such a bad thing right now? Even with our best players we are a bunch of gutless losers and I don’t see keeping Nasri , cesc and Clichy is going to make much difference.
We need a complete new spine of the team. End of the day when we last sold great players such as Henry and PV it fucked us because we were winners and recent champions. Currently we are not winners or recent champions so fuck em if they want to go.
Nasri is best replaced with a natural winger that can cross and add pace down the wing.
Cesc is best sold and replaced with a quality striker.