Stewart Robson Talksport

[AFCasap]

keep it up robbo...say it like it is

[I still Exiled-Gooner]

Watched Robbo on ESPN press pass and he has been very critical of wenger and his tactic's and players.It's refreshing seeing this type of criticism other than the tippy toed criticism then contradictions.

[Bendtners Drinking Buddy]

he also mentioned a rift between him and bould already, you could tell that the first few games of the season there was a slightly different style to our play which a lot of people were putting down to boulds influence, its so obvious to anyone that the style in the last couple of games has gone back to wenger/rice and basically wenger wanting to show only his way to play is good enough.
its been clear for a while now that wenger has lost the dressing room, NOBODY wants him NOBODY respects him and when you lose the dressing room the inevitable next step is you will be SACKED!!......and good riddance

No, he hasn't.

[flash gunner]

he also mentioned a rift between him and bould already, you could tell that the first few games of the season there was a slightly different style to our play which a lot of people were putting down to boulds influence, its so obvious to anyone that the style in the last couple of games has gone back to wenger/rice and basically wenger wanting to show only his way to play is good enough.
its been clear for a while now that wenger has lost the dressing room, NOBODY wants him NOBODY respects him and when you lose the dressing room the inevitable next step is you will be SACKED!!......and good riddance

No, he hasn't.

How do you know?

[I Hate Hleb]

Think i'll take what Parlour and Wright and other ex players say about Wenger rather than bitter Robson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycpLLINX ... re=related

You and many others until, that is, Wrighty says something else that might be seen to be criticism of Lord Wenger - then the same accusations of bitterness are leveled by you lot at him!!

Don't always agree with Robson's diagnosis and analysis (who can forget his constant defence of Almunia? ) but at least he's one of the few Arsenal ex-players and media types that has got the balls to say what a lot of Arsenal fans are thinking and is not scared to question Wenger!!

[franksav63]

I dont like Robson but he's not wrong. He did also said there has been a big fall out between Wenger and Bould

I'm going to allow myself an augie moment ( ) and point out that I did say this would happen. I asked how long Bouldy would be allowed to instill his ideas in the team before Wenger got annoyed at someone denting his "World Genius" crown and suddenly Bouldy would just become Pat Rice II.

I am fantastic.

I wouldn't doubt Robson's view on this, despite what the AKB's will say, it also explains why Wenger soon jettisonned Keown from the great job that he did with the defence on the way to the 2006 CL final, Keown was getting deserved praise and Wenger didn't like it. It would also explain why he kept Rice on so long and even then, he tried to talk Rice out of retiring after the West Brom last season.

Wenger, doesn't like anyone around him that offers a different view, it's either Wenger's way or no way and it also explain why the defence is going to shit once again, playing the cowpat of the zonal marking system to spite Bould. Wenger is equally to blame along with the board with the malaise that is happening that the club at the moment, and the sooner his outdated ways and dictatorial leadership style are removed from our club the better.

[DB10GOONER]

I dont like Robson but he's not wrong. He did also said there has been a big fall out between Wenger and Bould

I'm going to allow myself an augie moment ( ) and point out that I did say this would happen. I asked how long Bouldy would be allowed to instill his ideas in the team before Wenger got annoyed at someone denting his "World Genius" crown and suddenly Bouldy would just become Pat Rice II.

I am fantastic.

I wouldn't doubt Robson's view on this, despite what the AKB's will say, it also explains why Wenger soon jettisonned Keown from the great job that he did with the defence on the way to the 2006 CL final, Keown was getting deserved praise and Wenger didn't like it. It would also explain why he kept Rice on so long and even then, he tried to talk Rice out of retiring after the West Brom last season.

Wenger, doesn't like anyone around him that offers a different view, it's either Wenger's way or no way and it also explain why the defence is going to shit once again, playing the cowpat of the zonal marking system to spite Bould. Wenger is equally to blame along with the board with the malaise that is happening that the club at the moment, and the sooner his outdated ways and dictatorial leadership style are removed from our club the better.

Agreed. Also, I always hated the way Arsene would patronise the fuck out of any jounalist at a press conference that questioned his methods. He'd give them that smug "you are not a genius like me" look. Always pissed me off that. Self belief is vital to be a top manager but when it tips over into meglomania the fucker needs to get gone.

[OneBardGooner]

Yea, I dont particularly care if he has an axe to grind or not. If he's saying it as it is and hes telling some home truths (unlike Lee Dixon, Martin Keown and other "pundits" who wont openly criticise Wenger) then its fine by me.
He certaintly knows a lot more than me and I'm always waffling about the gunners.

Aaaaah so you're a lesser spotted waffler then!?

[MM99]

Think i'll take what Parlour and Wright and other ex players say about Wenger rather than bitter Robson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycpLLINX ... re=related

You and many others until, that is, Wrighty says something else that might be seen to be criticism of Lord Wenger - then the same accusations of bitterness are leveled by you lot at him!!

Don't always agree with Robson's diagnosis and analysis (who can forget his constant defence of Almunia? ) but at least he's one of the few Arsenal ex-players and media types that has got the balls to say what a lot of Arsenal fans are thinking and is not scared to question Wenger!!

First off, I agree with the majority of Wright's views on the clubs affairs and his criticism so don't try that "you lot" shit with me. Secondly, stop rolling your eyes in every post like a petulant housewife.

[armchair]

Dont know why Wenger gets such an easy ride with pundits and commentators.

They're quick enough to highlight players faults and mistakes. They're not afraid to say Mannone has or is having a "mare".
Even against Shalke Tony Gayle identified that Santos wasn't playing well and needed to be subbed at half time.
But would he critise Wenger for his failure to identify the obvious gaping hole on the left and remedy it? NO!
What did Gayle do when talk of Wenger came up - he started going on about his past glories. How he'd singlehandedly built the Emirates and transformed the Arsenal!

Almost everyone still seems afraid to openly criticise him even though they probably are thinking it.

[mcdowell42]

Dont know why Wenger gets such an easy ride with pundits and commentators.

They're quick enough to highlight players faults and mistakes. They're not afraid to say Mannone has or is having a "mare".
Even against Shalke Tony Gayle identified that Santos wasn't playing well and needed to be subbed at half time.
But would he critise Wenger for his failure to identify the obvious gaping hole on the left and remedy it? NO!
What did Gayle do when talk of Wenger came up - he started going on about his past glories. How he'd singlehandedly built the Emirates and transformed the Arsenal!

Almost everyone still seems afraid to openly criticise him even though they probably are thinking it.

Sorry for being picky armchair wenger was in stands serving out the last of a 3 match ban and as far im aware as part of the ban was not allowed communicate with the bench(now not 100% sure if im right)so therefore imo steve bould should have been the guy to make a decision on santos and it was glaringly obvious what needed to be done.

[armchair]

Dont know why Wenger gets such an easy ride with pundits and commentators.

They're quick enough to highlight players faults and mistakes. They're not afraid to say Mannone has or is having a "mare".
Even against Shalke Tony Gayle identified that Santos wasn't playing well and needed to be subbed at half time.
But would he critise Wenger for his failure to identify the obvious gaping hole on the left and remedy it? NO!
What did Gayle do when talk of Wenger came up - he started going on about his past glories. How he'd singlehandedly built the Emirates and transformed the Arsenal!

Almost everyone still seems afraid to openly criticise him even though they probably are thinking it.

Sorry for being picky armchair wenger was in stands serving out the last of a 3 match ban and as far im aware as part of the ban was not allowed communicate with the bench(now not 100% sure if im right)so therefore imo steve bould should have been the guy to make a decision on santos and it was glaringly obvious what needed to be done.

This is true but the subs were probably pre arranged by Wenger before kick-off anyway.
But at half time at the very least I'm sure Wenger could have got a message somehow to Bouldy. Mentioned elsewhere that him and Bould have had a rift but the subs had Wenger written all over em.

[mcdowell42]

Dont know why Wenger gets such an easy ride with pundits and commentators.

They're quick enough to highlight players faults and mistakes. They're not afraid to say Mannone has or is having a "mare".
Even against Shalke Tony Gayle identified that Santos wasn't playing well and needed to be subbed at half time.
But would he critise Wenger for his failure to identify the obvious gaping hole on the left and remedy it? NO!
What did Gayle do when talk of Wenger came up - he started going on about his past glories. How he'd singlehandedly built the Emirates and transformed the Arsenal!

Almost everyone still seems afraid to openly criticise him even though they probably are thinking it.

Sorry for being picky armchair wenger was in stands serving out the last of a 3 match ban and as far im aware as part of the ban was not allowed communicate with the bench(now not 100% sure if im right)so therefore imo steve bould should have been the guy to make a decision on santos and it was glaringly obvious what needed to be done.

This is true but the subs were probably pre arranged by Wenger before kick-off anyway.
But at half time at the very least I'm sure Wenger could have got a message somehow to Bouldy. Mentioned elsewhere that him and Bould have had a rift but the subs had Wenger written all over em.

Think bould said in an interview after the match that the subs were pre-aranged b4 the match but wasnt sure if he meant the timing of them or who they were taking off/on.

[I Hate Hleb]

Think i'll take what Parlour and Wright and other ex players say about Wenger rather than bitter Robson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycpLLINX ... re=related

You and many others until, that is, Wrighty says something else that might be seen to be criticism of Lord Wenger - then the same accusations of bitterness are leveled by you lot at him!!

Don't always agree with Robson's diagnosis and analysis (who can forget his constant defence of Almunia? ) but at least he's one of the few Arsenal ex-players and media types that has got the balls to say what a lot of Arsenal fans are thinking and is not scared to question Wenger!!

First off, I agree with the majority of Wright's views on the clubs affairs and his criticism so don't try that "you lot" shit with me. Secondly, stop rolling your eyes in every post like a petulant housewife.

Well in that case why are you using Wright as an example of someone whose views should be listened to when he has criticised Wenger and the club more often and more harshly than what Robson has and for not dis-similar reasons? Is it because you preferred him as a player or that he gave us longer service? If not then why is one qualified to be a critic and the other not? Surely that's a bit hypocritical? As for Ray Parlour, good player but the guy can hardly put together a coherent sentence, let alone a reasonable and persuasive argument on anything beyond the usual 1970 and 80's type football cliches he's used to!!

Secondly, the emoticons are on here for anyone to use in whatever way they like - and that includes me. If you don't like it, tough shit!! I'll continue to use them when and how often I like!! Perhaps if you stopped reasoning like a prepubescent school boy about to have his first Health Education class there'd be no need for the rolling eyes emoticon'?

Oh, and before I forget, here's one more for the road...

[StuartL]

Many an ex player has been critical of Arsene - Robson, Wilson, McLintock, Wright, Merson, etc, etc and most of that lot I would still call "Arsenal men" who love the club, not Wenker, and therefore decide to publically say what they feel is wrong.

I don't get how an ex player voicing their opinion, is deemed to be bitter. They are only saying out loud or in print what many on here think too, that Wenker has too much power and is now untouchable until he decides that it is time to move on His unshakeable faith in the likes of Eboue, Denilson, Almunia, Vela has cost us dear over the years as we have been waiting to no avail for them to turn into the worldbeaters that he believed.

RVP like Fabregas and Henry before him, lost faith in Weker and his foolhardy youth (unknown) policy and I can't blame them for putting their careers before their supposed loyalty to Wenker.