The point of Spurs?

[DB10GOONER]

For days like this

They've got their own version of She-ra and her ugly sister, and the only bloke more passionate than the dude in the I Luv AW t-shirt

HE'S SOOOOOOOOOO PASSIONATE!!! And angry too.

[Blood_Gooner]

Good post Quartz.

There is no way I would say that Leeds are bigger than Spurs.

As an Arsenal fan, I don't have a problem and never have had a problem admitting Spurs are a big club. As long as we acknowledge they will always be inferior to us and that we are far bigger, I don't see any need to pretend they are not one of the biggest clubs in England.

In fact it makes it funnier and more enjoyable that they have gone so long without a title if they are a big club. Because that is failure on a huge scale.

And who wants a small club as their rivals? For the rivalry to really mean something, I think your rivals have to be a decent size club and have a large following. Compare the Arsenal and Spurs rivalry to Chelsea's pitiful rivalry with Fulham or QPR.

I quite like this post.

The bit in bold is bloody hilarious.

[Barriecuda]

Sp*rs are a marketing tool owned through various back channels by Arsenal PLC.

Arsenal uses them to ensure that we always have a rival to finish above, making sure we look better no matter how bad our season actually is.

[clockender1]

without realising that Spurs are a bigger club than Leeds in the minds of most football fans.

i'd say leeds are a slightly bigger club.

leeds won the league in 68, 74 and '92. the spuds were in 50 & '61...

leeds have been in the European cup final and the semi's twice. Spuds have never made it past the 2nd knock out round.

both have won a few FA cups and european cup winners or UEFA cups, but neither has had consistent success ever, a bit like chelsea, city and Villa

Disagree.

I am no fan of either club, but Spurs are a bigger club in almost every sense.

Leeds might have won one more league than Spurs, but Spurs have done a double when it meant something and won a lot more trophies in total.
Not just trophies highlight a "big" club, but I bet Spurs are more well known worldwide simply through their more high profile players of late.

Spurs have silverware from 1901 onwards.
Leeds did not win a trophy of note until 1968.

Spurs have been relegated before, but have been a top flight team for 35 years.
They have been a yo-yo club through their history, but their spells in the second flight were much briefer than their spells in the top flight.
Leeds have been out of the top flight for nine seasons and have always been a yo-yo club through their history, with longer spells in the second flight than Spurs.

Spurs had a title winning team early fifties, a double winning team early sixties, and a cup winning team early eighties.
Leeds basically had a golden era late sixties to early seventies, and a revival with a league win in the early nineties.

Spurs - 17 Trophies

2 League Titles (inc. 1 Double)
8 FA Cups
4 League Cups
1 Cup Winners Cup
2 UEFA Cups

Leeds - 7 Trophies

3 League Titles
1 FA Cup
1 League Cup
2 UEFA Cups

Arsenal - 27 Trophies

13 League Titles (Inc. 3 Doubles, 1 Threepeat and 1 Invincibles season)
10 FA Cups
2 League Cups
1 UEFA Fairs Cup
1 Cup Winners Cup

fair enough.

we also did a Cup double in 1993....

[topgoon]

For days like this

Had to revive this because it's bringing a smile to my face all summer long especially now the scum might lose AVB and monkey features........wonder if those 2 fat slags are hanging their heads in shame all summer long

[northbank123]

For days like this

Had to revive this because it's bringing a smile to my face all summer long especially now the scum might lose AVB and monkey features........wonder if those 2 fat slags are hanging their heads in shame all summer long

Who knew Bale 4 years ago??????

[DB10GOONER]

For days like this

Had to revive this because it's bringing a smile to my face all summer long especially now the scum might lose AVB and monkey features........wonder if those 2 fat slags are hanging their heads in shame all summer long

Who knew Bale 4 years ago??????

They should make a banner!!

[supergeorgegraham]

For us to laugh at. We do have that at least

[supergeorgegraham]

[greengooner]

The point of Spurs?.......thank f**k they did not have one more point last season

[1989]

Spurs...the gift that keeps on giving. Imagine they didn't exist, who would provide us with all the laughter?

[safcftm]

The "big club" debate always strikes me as pathetic tbh, its generally brought up by sad wankers who have nothing in their own life to be proud of and so they cling to the idea that their club is "bigger" than someone elses as a means of somehow hoping to reflect that superiority onto themselves. Are Sunderland a bigger club than Chesterfield? Undoubtedly. Does that give me any reason to belittle any Chesterfield fan who turns up week in and week out to watch his team? Of course not. The big club debate is generally the preserve of the plastic fan, some dickhead who would laugh at the Chesterfield fan because "they're shit" whilst he sits in his house in Surrey wearing his replica Man United top watching them on the tele. Are Arsenal a bigger club than Sunderland? Undoubtedly. But you know what, I'm doing canny in me job, I'm engaged to a lovely Mackem lass, I look after her son, we're trying for a kid of our own and I watch me team week in week out so I won't be sitting up at night crying because we aren't the biggest football club in the world, I couldn't care less, I love the useless fuckers anyway.

Plus there's too many variables regarding "big clubs" to make it an argument worth having. Yes there are clear cut examples like the above but other debates come down to which factors you rank highest in their importance. Is it number of fans? Number of trophies? Attendances? League titles? Overall competition titles including FA Cup, League Cup etc? And invariably in these debates people happen to place the most importance on the factors which lead to their club coming out on top. Its a never ending argument and to be honest who really cares? As long as you enjoy supporting your club and are proud of them who gives a fuck? I could go and "support" Real Madrid and laugh at the plastic Man United fan because "my" clubs bigger but what would it achieve? No one should care how "big" their club is compared to others, just enjoy supporting them and stop trying to arrogantly put other fans down.

Oh and Leeds? Sorry, I'm far from Spurs biggest fan but if we had to go into the "big club" debate, they're a bigger club than Leeds. One less league title admittedly but 7 more FA Cups, 3 more league cups and an extra European trophy plus success across a much more sustained period, of Leeds' 6 major trophies (3 x league titles, 1x FA Cup, 2 x UEFA Cup), 5 of them came between 1968 and 1974, other than that they've done very little. And not having a significant local rival does not help make a big club, it doesn't affect it in the slightest, if the author is correct and it does someone should really get on the phone and tell AC Milan.

[topgoon]

The point of Spurs ...to remind us that the term 'Big Club' can be so wasted on underachieving sh*te

The roll call of managers that have failed to finish above us even when we are absolutely sh*t, in reverse order of uselessness

AVB(aka negative spiral DVD)
Twitchy
Ramos(at least he won a trophy)
Tony Soprano
Santini
Kerb crawler Pleat
Hoddle
Kerb crawler again
GG(their only other trophy in 2 decades won by a gunners legend manager...you couldn't make this sh*t up )
Christian..hey look at my travel card Gross....dear oh dear
Hughton

How the f**k can you call yourself a top club when you win one league title in over 60 years.


These losers have a thread on Glory glory at the moment titled "Your proudest moment as a Spurs fan" and I plucked this gem from there:

Standing among the crowd outside Tottenham Town Hall, Sunday 7 May 1961, watching Danny & co triumphantly displaying two major trophies.

http://www.britishpathe.com/video/to...me-with-double


I can't believe that it's not bad enough that we take the p*ss out of these tw*ts winning the league in black and white but even the poor sods have to get footage of it off Pathe News

The reason for the scum is to remind us gooners that no matter how sh*t things are for us the scumwill find a way to be even sh*tter

[Herd]

Even Miami fucks the Spurs late on !