Suarez did have a min fee release

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Re: Suarez did have a min fee release

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Nope. John Henry bluffed us and we backed off.

It just shows that we should have had a copy of the contract before we bid to make sure.

As a Red Sox fan who lived in Boston for six years, he's ruthless but honest. He said show me the contract and they couldn't so he told them to fuck off.

Had they shown the contract he would have honoured it. That's the kind of guy he is.

We pushed it on a rumour - dumb move.

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clockender1 wrote:Nope. John Henry bluffed us and we backed off.

It just shows that we should have had a copy of the contract before we bid to make sure.

As a Red Sox fan who lived in Boston for six years, he's ruthless but honest. He said show me the contract and they couldn't so he told them to fuck off.

Had they shown the contract he would have honoured it. That's the kind of guy he is.

We pushed it on a rumour - dumb move.
I'm not really sure about your logic here. Get a copy of an opposition player's contract before bidding? That's exactly the sort of dithering tentative transfer policy we regularly get lambasted for. Getting inside knowledge of a release clause is valuable and tricky enough.

The clause (if it existed) was for Suarez's benefit and only he could enforce it - practically and legally. If the clause actually existed and Liverpool refused to honour it Suarez could have taken it to PFA and FIFPro and gone on strike - he could have then treated the contract as repudiated and walked away or alternatively enforced specific performance through the courts at short notice.

I really think this is just posturing and preening from John W Henry to gain popularity and plaudits. For a start if what he's saying is true Suarez could still sue the club up until 2019. It would be pretty stupid of him to therefore admit it publicly if it was true, it's a brag nobody was going to contradict even if it's complete bollocks.

I have plenty of problems with our transfer policy and even with our refusal to go higher for him afterwards. But we'd been informed the bid would have to be accepted, it would have been a great deal but we had no viable method of enforcing it when it wasn't.

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northbank123 wrote:
clockender1 wrote:Nope. John Henry bluffed us and we backed off.

It just shows that we should have had a copy of the contract before we bid to make sure.

As a Red Sox fan who lived in Boston for six years, he's ruthless but honest. He said show me the contract and they couldn't so he told them to fuck off.

Had they shown the contract he would have honoured it. That's the kind of guy he is.

We pushed it on a rumour - dumb move.
I'm not really sure about your logic here. Get a copy of an opposition player's contract before bidding? That's exactly the sort of dithering tentative transfer policy we regularly get lambasted for. Getting inside knowledge of a release clause is valuable and tricky enough.

The clause (if it existed) was for Suarez's benefit and only he could enforce it - practically and legally. If the clause actually existed and Liverpool refused to honour it Suarez could have taken it to PFA and FIFPro and gone on strike - he could have then treated the contract as repudiated and walked away or alternatively enforced specific performance through the courts at short notice.

I really think this is just posturing and preening from John W Henry to gain popularity and plaudits. For a start if what he's saying is true Suarez could still sue the club up until 2019. It would be pretty stupid of him to therefore admit it publicly if it was true, it's a brag nobody was going to contradict even if it's complete bollocks.

I have plenty of problems with our transfer policy and even with our refusal to go higher for him afterwards. But we'd been informed the bid would have to be accepted, it would have been a great deal but we had no viable method of enforcing it when it wasn't.
The whole saga was a mightily odd one, and this is another chapter in the saga. Guess the Mousers will be taunting us with it for some time :oops: :oops:

If he had gone on strike though he would have made a laughing stock of himself, as the FA had struck first for 8 weeks :rubchin:

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Theoperator wrote:
northbank123 wrote:
clockender1 wrote:Nope. John Henry bluffed us and we backed off.

It just shows that we should have had a copy of the contract before we bid to make sure.

As a Red Sox fan who lived in Boston for six years, he's ruthless but honest. He said show me the contract and they couldn't so he told them to fuck off.

Had they shown the contract he would have honoured it. That's the kind of guy he is.

We pushed it on a rumour - dumb move.
I'm not really sure about your logic here. Get a copy of an opposition player's contract before bidding? That's exactly the sort of dithering tentative transfer policy we regularly get lambasted for. Getting inside knowledge of a release clause is valuable and tricky enough.

The clause (if it existed) was for Suarez's benefit and only he could enforce it - practically and legally. If the clause actually existed and Liverpool refused to honour it Suarez could have taken it to PFA and FIFPro and gone on strike - he could have then treated the contract as repudiated and walked away or alternatively enforced specific performance through the courts at short notice.

I really think this is just posturing and preening from John W Henry to gain popularity and plaudits. For a start if what he's saying is true Suarez could still sue the club up until 2019. It would be pretty stupid of him to therefore admit it publicly if it was true, it's a brag nobody was going to contradict even if it's complete bollocks.

I have plenty of problems with our transfer policy and even with our refusal to go higher for him afterwards. But we'd been informed the bid would have to be accepted, it would have been a great deal but we had no viable method of enforcing it when it wasn't.
The whole saga was a mightily odd one, and this is another chapter in the saga. Guess the Mousers will be taunting us with it for some time :oops: :oops:

If he had gone on strike though he would have made a laughing stock of himself, as the FA had struck first for 8 weeks :rubchin:
Suarez's unpopularity is almost unrivalled but I think even he would have had considerable support for such a flagrant violation of a specifically-negotiated term of his employment contract - regardless of the bubble professional football exists in people can relate to getting fucked by an employer.

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Im not sure that the average punter would have seen that though, just that a highly paid man on imposed strike was ... erm... err... well...... striking :oops: :lol:

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The closest thing to Suárez in football currently is Diego Costa and he has a £35m buy-out clause that can only be activated in the summer and according to Spanish media, we're ready to meet it. We should be all over him like flies on shit before the chavs get in ahead of us. Offer him the world, proper entice him. Although knowing the muppets in charge of our transfer dealings we'll probably fuck that one up as well by offering 1 pound extra. I'm still gutted we missed out on Suárez, but Costa would more than make up for it. Animal of a striker with an incredible desire to win.

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:oops: :banghead: :oops:

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/footbal ... 66204.html

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This must be the work of a scouser surely. Please say it is and not that of some nugget who supports The Arsenal.

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If it was anything to do with Arsenal the compensation would be £4,500,001

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reckon Suarez was promised he can leave this summer no matter what by Rodgers and Henry if he stayed this season. everyone's a winner except us!! Lpool get more dosh,since he signed new deal and dont strengthen rival! Suarez in knowledge he is off can play free of some pressure, still gets his move and in eyes of their fans repaid their 'loyalty' in him.

is it breach of contract for suarez or his agent to make other parties aware of the buy out clause?? is that how Henry could get around refusing to honour the clause??

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RoscommonGooner wrote::oops: :banghead: :oops:

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/footbal ... 66204.html

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This must be the work of a scouser surely. Please say it is and not that of some nugget who supports The Arsenal.
:oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

That is appallingly embarrassing IF it came from a Gooner. I think it is for things like this that someone invented the initials "OMFG". :|

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The picture on this one looks familiar - http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/a ... e-wenger-3

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Im glad though that our Manager in the height of planning tactics for the Everton match has seen fit to sign the petition :lol:

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Bottom line: We should have pushed the (moolah) boat out to get him. Had we done so - we would now be at least 12 points ahead of the rest AND there would've been a good chance that Saurez would have taken a bite out of Gerrard for being the annoying shyte stirring chicken shyte scouser he is.

simples

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OneBardGooner wrote:Bottom line: We should have pushed the (moolah) boat out to get him. Had we done so - we would now be at least 12 points ahead of the rest AND there would've been a good chance that Saurez would have taken a bite out of Gerrard for being the annoying shyte stirring chicken shyte scouser he is.

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I dunno - how many goals would he score as a left-sided midfielder? :rubchin:

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Personally, i'm not sure he would have been happy on the bench as a back up to Giroud. :lol:

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