As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
armchair wrote:Why would he leave a title-challenging team to play for perennial also-rans? Unless he fancies a bit of our fourth place glory? Oh how we celebrate on glory days like these..........
How sad to realise that 2 -3 years on we are no further FORWARD (club motto) than when we had Fabianski, Gervinho, et al.
Rosicky actually played a match ??
We STILL have far too many bang average players to make a legitimate title challenge ( ie still in contention in April)
Vardy, has pace and power and is full of confidence, looks like he could score 25 + league goals - which of our players can you say that about ?
Still bout 3 top players short
Still weak defensively
Still cant do tactics
Still real questions marks over training methods and recovery
Still many millions unspent
Still persuing projects
Still taking fans for granted
Same shit different season
Lets be honest here and admit that this is probably going to be vardy's only time in the sun - fair play to the guy cos he works his rocks off for the team and plays football with reckless abandon like it used to be
As regards us buying him, I have to say that I don't see the point - every player in every team has to fit in with the team philosophy and set up and vardy clearly doesn't suit ours. Much of our problems continue to be the fact that le cock buys players not suited to the "system" (and I use that word loosely ) we play, and he then tries to squeeze them in by playing them out of position and in a way that doesn't work for them Buying vardy and coaching that 100% workrate and pressing game out of him, would only nullify all that is good about him and he would turn out to be another dud signing
augie wrote:Lets be honest here and admit that this is probably going to be vardy's only time in the sun - fair play to the guy cos he works his rocks off for the team and plays football with reckless abandon like it used to be
As regards us buying him, I have to say that I don't see the point - every player in every team has to fit in with the team philosophy and set up and vardy clearly doesn't suit ours. Much of our problems continue to be the fact that le cock buys players not suited to the "system" (and I use that word loosely ) we play, and he then tries to squeeze them in by playing them out of position and in a way that doesn't work for them Buying vardy and coaching that 100% workrate and pressing game out of him, would only nullify all that is good about him and he would turn out to be another dud signing
Hang on a minute, a lot of the early Wenger side's did exactly that press the life out of the opposition into mistakes in their own half. Sanchez does it at the minute, it's infectious imo if players see two or three of their team mates upping their work rate it starts to filter through the side.
I also don't buy that it's his time in the sun, bit of football snobbery all over this thread. It's like in 2015 you don't get players who started and played in the non leagues breaking through into the prem later on in their careers. Bet there's a couple of gems at that level if you look hard enough, a certain Mr Ian Wright springs to mind as already mentioned.
I don't watch Leicester so I can't really comment too much on Vardy as an individual.
But on a general note, I'm always a tad sceptical to hail players as the answer to our prayers based on what could be simply a very good run of form in a confident side.
Take away his 13 goals this season, and you have a guy who has scored 25 in 97 league games for Leicester (Premier League and Championship) which isn't all that special.
We've had other strikers who have burst on the scene only to shuffle off with a whimper before long, such as Michu, Kevin Phillips, Andy Johnson, Yakubu, Michael Ricketts, Marcus Stewart, Darren Bent, Rickie Lambert, etc. so I think it's too early to declare Vardy as top class in his own right.
That's not me writing him off though. He may well be a late bloomer like Drogba and Wrighty and rip up the league for a few seasons. Time will tell I suppose.
nut flush gooner wrote:Very results orientated, but I like Vardy and think he could be even more clinical for us than he is at Leicester. I could see Ozil putting him in on goal for fun.
I think I read recently that Walcott hasn't scored in more than three consecutive league games in his entire career. Vardy's done it in the first three months of his, in the top flight, so I'm pretty sure I know who I'd choose.
Still, Walcott is still learning, we gots ta give him time.
VoiceOfReason wrote:I think I read recently that Walcott hasn't scored in more than three consecutive league games in his entire career. Vardy's done it in the first three months of his, in the top flight, so I'm pretty sure I know who I'd choose.
Still, Walcott is still learning, we gots ta give him time.
Who are you eye rolling at? - most on here don't think Theo is the answer either.
g88ner wrote:I don't watch Leicester so I can't really comment too much on Vardy as an individual.
But on a general note, I'm always a tad sceptical to hail players as the answer to our prayers based on what could be simply a very good run of form in a confident side.
Take away his 13 goals this season, and you have a guy who has scored 25 in 97 league games for Leicester (Premier League and Championship) which isn't all that special.
We've had other strikers who have burst on the scene only to shuffle off with a whimper before long, such as Michu, Kevin Phillips, Andy Johnson, Yakubu, Michael Ricketts, Marcus Stewart, Darren Bent, Rickie Lambert, etc. so I think it's too early to declare Vardy as top class in his own right.
That's not me writing him off though. He may well be a late bloomer like Drogba and Wrighty and rip up the league for a few seasons. Time will tell I suppose.
Very harsh on kevin Phillips g88ner - I would have classed him as a proper goalpoacher throughout his career
VoiceOfReason wrote:I think I read recently that Walcott hasn't scored in more than three consecutive league games in his entire career. Vardy's done it in the first three months of his, in the top flight, so I'm pretty sure I know who I'd choose.
Still, Walcott is still learning, we gots ta give him time.
Who are you eye rolling at? - most on here don't think Theo is the answer either.
I don't know if Vardy could do a job for us, but I think we should find out.
I wouldn't crucify AW if he buys a striker who turns out to be a disappointment, but it'd be inexcusable not to sign somebody, because we know Giroud isn't up to it and Theo will spend half of his career injured.
VoiceOfReason wrote:I think I read recently that Walcott hasn't scored in more than three consecutive league games in his entire career. Vardy's done it in the first three months of his, in the top flight, so I'm pretty sure I know who I'd choose.
Still, Walcott is still learning, we gots ta give him time.
Who are you eye rolling at? - most on here don't think Theo is the answer either.
Jock Gooner wrote:Christ yes, we would never have bought Wrighty if we adopted a snobbish we're too good for him approach. The boy is an out and out goal scorer and probably avoids injury because he gets stuck in rather than using the tossy 'dangle a foot' style tackle we see from our own. I would give him a go without a doubt but Wenger wouldn't buy him because he would show up his previous strike force decisions as the load of old shite they are.
Exactly right - neither would we have signed Alan Smith from Leicester back in the day....and whilst not quite Wrighty's level was absolutely pivotal when we won the title and played a key role under GG
Much better instead to sign some no mark wanker from Lille who's scored 12 goals in a season in a substandard shite league just because his name is nicer !
Jock Gooner wrote:Christ yes, we would never have bought Wrighty if we adopted a snobbish we're too good for him approach. The boy is an out and out goal scorer and probably avoids injury because he gets stuck in rather than using the tossy 'dangle a foot' style tackle we see from our own. I would give him a go without a doubt but Wenger wouldn't buy him because he would show up his previous strike force decisions as the load of old shite they are.
Exactly right - neither would we have signed Alan Smith from Leicester back in the day....and whilst not quite Wrighty's level was absolutely pivotal when we won the title and played a key role under GG
Much better instead to sign some no mark wanker from Lille who's scored 12 goals in a season in a substandard shite league just because his name is nicer !
I'm all for signing Vardy if he's as good as Wrighty.
Not so keen if he's the next Michu, Bent, Ricketts, Phillips, Stewart, Johnson or Lambert.
13 in 13 is awesome, but 25 in his previous 97 league games (mostly in the championship) isn't great though. Not knocking him like, as I've not seen enough of him. Just examining the stats.
Would be great if he's the the real deal and the answer to our striker search since RVP, but not seen enough to know.
Is he what we need? (i.e. top class?) or are people suggesting we spend £20-30m on someone who might not be good enough to lead us to glory but is more a shiny, quick fix?
) we play, and he then tries to squeeze them in by playing them out of position and in a way that doesn't work for them 
Buying vardy and coaching that 100% workrate and pressing game out of him, would only nullify all that is good about him and he would turn out to be another dud signing
