The Glasgow Rangers Fans

As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
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we did warn people what rangers fans were like on the zenit thread,, now the english know how the irish feel every time we come across these neanderthals :evil:

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Pancho wrote:
Wayno wrote:The wanky mancs cause trouble and destruction wherever they go, I thought it was great to see their shit city being subject to the same kind of neanderthal behaviour usually served up by their very own. Lets hope the Russians batter a good few of them next week.
you make these clams ...give me a factual example ..or as I suspect , its all in your bitter ABU imagination :lol:
Er.....Rome (twice or three times), and was it Lens in France? Ok, so they always claim they were the innocent party, but funny how trouble seems to follow them around. We've played as many CL games as Utd over the last few years and, I'm sure like Utd, always sell out. But I can't remember the last time we had the media on our back for causing trouble.

And, in answer to QuartzGooner, if you wonder why someone would travel hundreds of miles to watch their team play on a big screen or in a bar then you obviously weren't in Paris for our final v Barca. What a f*cking night. And I didn't get within 2 miles of the Stadium :lol: !!!

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Them Gers fans were a fucking disgrace after the match i think personally and some people might have said it Rangers should be fucked out of Europe for a few years after that mess their scumbag fans caused.

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Bergkamp95 wrote:Them Gers fans were a fucking disgrace after the match i think personally and some people might have said it Rangers should be fucked out of Europe for a few years after that mess their scumbag fans caused.
Some of the comments on this have really made me laugh. Before making comments like this about Rangers 'fans', look a bit closer to home. How many tournaments have England 'fans' ruined with their moronic displays? Man U fans in Roma? Leeds fans in Turkey?

When you invite 100,000 people to travel 250 miles down for a party at yours, get them all pissed up, then pull the plug on the telly before the game kicks off, how the fuck do you think they are going to react?

I used the phrase 'fans' very lightly because I can bet that out of the 40 people that were arrested, none of them have probably even been to Ibrox.

Dont judge until you know all the facts.

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imarocknrollstar wrote:
Bergkamp95 wrote:Them Gers fans were a fucking disgrace after the match i think personally and some people might have said it Rangers should be fucked out of Europe for a few years after that mess their scumbag fans caused.
Some of the comments on this have really made me laugh. Before making comments like this about Rangers 'fans', look a bit closer to home. How many tournaments have England 'fans' ruined with their moronic displays? Man U fans in Roma? Leeds fans in Turkey?

When you invite 100,000 people to travel 250 miles down for a party at yours, get them all pissed up, then pull the plug on the telly before the game kicks off, how the fuck do you think they are going to react?

I used the phrase 'fans' very lightly because I can bet that out of the 40 people that were arrested, none of them have probably even been to Ibrox.

Dont judge until you know all the facts.
Im not the only one having a go at the rangers fans pal so have a look around you and see who else is bad mouthing them and point the finger at me ya.

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imarocknrollstar wrote:
Bergkamp95 wrote:Them Gers fans were a fucking disgrace after the match i think personally and some people might have said it Rangers should be fucked out of Europe for a few years after that mess their scumbag fans caused.
Some of the comments on this have really made me laugh. Before making comments like this about Rangers 'fans', look a bit closer to home. How many tournaments have England 'fans' ruined with their moronic displays? Man U fans in Roma? Leeds fans in Turkey?

When you invite 100,000 people to travel 250 miles down for a party at yours, get them all pissed up, then pull the plug on the telly before the game kicks off, how the fuck do you think they are going to react?

I used the phrase 'fans' very lightly because I can bet that out of the 40 people that were arrested, none of them have probably even been to Ibrox.

Dont judge until you know all the facts.
Read the Zenit thread where a few of us posted about our first hand experiences with those wankers. And then visit Glasgow anytime the old firm are playing. Celtic are pretty bad but Rangers are animals - not the minority either, the fucking majority.

They are brought up with little more than hate in their hearts; hate the Irish, hate the catholics, hate the english (even though most of them are proud to be British) hate the Welsh hate hate hate...

Sure Leeds and manure and England national team fans have caused mayhem but it is usually the minority. Also, we are commenting on the rangers scum as Arsenal fans - how many European city centres have we trashed? Don't say Copenhagen because that was mostly self defence against Turks bent on doing English fans and alot of the English fighting were Leeds and other hooligan firms that had attached themselves to Arsenal for a chance to get at the Turks. Our travelling support is 99% decent football fans that just want to watch a game, sing some songs, have a beer and alot of fun (no matter what rolypolyladbrookes would have you believe :wink: ).

I'm proud of us. 8)

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DB10GOONER wrote:
imarocknrollstar wrote:
Bergkamp95 wrote:Them Gers fans were a fucking disgrace after the match i think personally and some people might have said it Rangers should be fucked out of Europe for a few years after that mess their scumbag fans caused.
Some of the comments on this have really made me laugh. Before making comments like this about Rangers 'fans', look a bit closer to home. How many tournaments have England 'fans' ruined with their moronic displays? Man U fans in Roma? Leeds fans in Turkey?

When you invite 100,000 people to travel 250 miles down for a party at yours, get them all pissed up, then pull the plug on the telly before the game kicks off, how the fuck do you think they are going to react?

I used the phrase 'fans' very lightly because I can bet that out of the 40 people that were arrested, none of them have probably even been to Ibrox.

Dont judge until you know all the facts.
Read the Zenit thread where a few of us posted about our first hand experiences with those wankers. And then visit Glasgow anytime the old firm are playing. Celtic are pretty bad but Rangers are animals - not the minority either, the fucking majority.

They are brought up with little more than hate in their hearts; hate the Irish, hate the catholics, hate the english (even though most of them are proud to be British) hate the Welsh hate hate hate...

Sure Leeds and manure and England national team fans have caused mayhem but it is usually the minority. Also, we are commenting on the rangers scum as Arsenal fans - how many European city centres have we trashed? Don't say Copenhagen because that was mostly self defence against Turks bent on doing English fans and alot of the English fighting were Leeds and other hooligan firms that had attached themselves to Arsenal for a chance to get at the Turks. Our travelling support is 99% decent football fans that just want to watch a game, sing some songs, have a beer and alot of fun (no matter what rolypolyladbrookes would have you believe :wink: ).

I'm proud of us. 8)
Mate, I am probably better qualified to judge as I grew up outside Glasgow, where you are either Rangers or Celtic. I found myself to be an exception to the rule and I opted for Hearts as a young boy, more because I did not understand the sectarianism, so I could not just hate someone because I was told to (not that I was told to by my family). Unfortunately there are a small, and believe me when I say it is much smaller than what it used to be, minority that are complete crunts and will hate everybody. Unfortunately these people have had it drummed into their heads as children and will never change their ways.
The hate between Rangers & Celtic will never go away. It's a local derby and a power struggle to be Scotlands #1.
My whole point to this topic was really to say dont judge all fans because of the actions of a few, that just makes us as small minded and not much better than the arseholes.

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I remember the bad old days, when Rangers used to play us in regular pre-season friendlies at Highbury.

The Jocks were mostly totally pissed, and bought their whiskey bottles into the ground. When the bottles were empty, they would throw them somewhere very painful. Including the steelwork of the Northbank roof. If the bottles broke, the people standing underneath would have a very unpleasant experience.

For some reason, the club found alternative opponents.

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imarocknrollstar wrote:
Bergkamp95 wrote:Them Gers fans were a fucking disgrace after the match i think personally and some people might have said it Rangers should be fucked out of Europe for a few years after that mess their scumbag fans caused.
Some of the comments on this have really made me laugh. Before making comments like this about Rangers 'fans', look a bit closer to home. How many tournaments have England 'fans' ruined with their moronic displays? Man U fans in Roma? Leeds fans in Turkey?

When you invite 100,000 people to travel 250 miles down for a party at yours, get them all pissed up, then pull the plug on the telly before the game kicks off, how the fuck do you think they are going to react?

I used the phrase 'fans' very lightly because I can bet that out of the 40 people that were arrested, none of them have probably even been to Ibrox.

Dont judge until you know all the facts.
You define in your post why this problem will never be sorted. You choose to make an excuse for violence. I don't fight when I'm pissed but it seems that I can excused if I do...I really am missing out! People choose to blame the police and organisers....the blame lies with the people fighting and causing trouble.

And this issue is about club football - not "England". I have lived in european cites where "British "football fans have been and I tell you, while the days of knuckle dusters and darts being thrown might be gone, the general "we rule" behaviour is far from over, with the English National team having the worst of these mugs. This does not discount other brits from similar charges.

Finally, nobody is defending English teams - but it is worthless for you to say that we cannot make our opinions heard because english teams have done the same. We know what goes on.

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khalid_red wrote:Well the screening is still going to happen in London and Hong Kong so 85% of Man Utd are unscathed by the events in Manchester :lol:
Cornwall has got a few screens around too. :D

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Galasso wrote:
imarocknrollstar wrote:
Bergkamp95 wrote:Them Gers fans were a fucking disgrace after the match i think personally and some people might have said it Rangers should be fucked out of Europe for a few years after that mess their scumbag fans caused.
Some of the comments on this have really made me laugh. Before making comments like this about Rangers 'fans', look a bit closer to home. How many tournaments have England 'fans' ruined with their moronic displays? Man U fans in Roma? Leeds fans in Turkey?

When you invite 100,000 people to travel 250 miles down for a party at yours, get them all pissed up, then pull the plug on the telly before the game kicks off, how the fuck do you think they are going to react?

I used the phrase 'fans' very lightly because I can bet that out of the 40 people that were arrested, none of them have probably even been to Ibrox.

Dont judge until you know all the facts.
You define in your post why this problem will never be sorted. You choose to make an excuse for violence. I don't fight when I'm pissed but it seems that I can excused if I do...I really am missing out! People choose to blame the police and organisers....the blame lies with the people fighting and causing trouble.

And this issue is about club football - not "England". I have lived in european cites where "British "football fans have been and I tell you, while the days of knuckle dusters and darts being thrown might be gone, the general "we rule" behaviour is far from over, with the English National team having the worst of these mugs. This does not discount other brits from similar charges.

Finally, nobody is defending English teams - but it is worthless for you to say that we cannot make our opinions heard because english teams have done the same. We know what goes on.
Of course you can make your opinion heard. If you read the last sentence of my last post on this you will see that I do not agree with what hapened at all. What I'm saying is dont tar everyone with the same brush.

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imarocknrollstar wrote:Some of the comments on this have really made me laugh. Before making comments like this about Rangers 'fans', look a bit closer to home. How many tournaments have England 'fans' ruined with their moronic displays? Man U fans in Roma? Leeds fans in Turkey?
I can't believe you said that :? ! I well know the (deserved) reputation they have - but on this occasion two of their fans were f*cking murdered. You can hardly blame them for that :x !!

I also can't understand how come UEFA operate one rule for Northern Europeans and another for the South. Despite all the trouble in Italy & Turkey, neither of these countries has had to endure the ban that we did. What happened in Hiesel was a trajedy - but only one Engish team was involved....so why didn't they just ban the mickey mousers???!!!!
imarocknrollstar wrote:When you invite 100,000 people to travel 250 miles down for a party at yours, get them all pissed up, then pull the plug on the telly before the game kicks off, how the fuck do you think they are going to react?
Agreed - Sad, but I think any group of 100,000 mainly young men would have reacted the same way. Manchester issued an open invitation and relaxed drinking laws so the sweaties could get tanked up....and then seemed surprised when it kicked off. Forget Glasgow Rangers. I'm amazed that UEFA didn't take action against Manchester!!!

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When you invite 100,000 people to travel 250 miles down for a party at yours, get them all pissed up, then pull the plug on the telly before the game kicks off, how the fuck do you think they are going to react?
No, what you're saying, as above, is that if a TV screen goes off and people are a bit pissed, you should expect violence. How the fuck should they react?? Like people who respect the city they are visiting, like most do. And it was a fault, not an act to wind people up. Did they think it was done on purpose - did they find out for sure or just start causing trouble?

And my point at the end, because I understand what you wrote, is that mentioning the violence of English fans is pointless. You have to address everyone's actions individually, not say "but English clubs are just as bad..." God, we fucking know that :!:

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DB10GOONER wrote:Sure Leeds and manure and England national team fans have caused mayhem but it is usually the minority. Also, we are commenting on the rangers scum as Arsenal fans - how many European city centres have we trashed? Don't say Copenhagen because that was mostly self defence against Turks bent on doing English fans and alot of the English fighting were Leeds and other hooligan firms that had attached themselves to Arsenal for a chance to get at the Turks. Our travelling support is 99% decent football fans that just want to watch a game, sing some songs, have a beer and alot of fun (no matter what rolypolyladbrookes would have you believe :wink: ).

I'm proud of us. 8)
Unfortunately it was mainly Arsenal lads doing it at Copenhagen (you only have to look at some of the 'other' arsenal forums to realise).

And they didn't cover themselves in glory at Heysel in 1980.

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N17 Gooner wrote:
Unfortunately it was mainly Arsenal lads doing it at Copenhagen (you only have to look at some of the 'other' arsenal forums to realise).

And they didn't cover themselves in glory at Heysel in 1980.


Complete bollocks. Were you in Copenhagen? The Turks were the cause of the trouble out there, along with a number of Leeds Utd fans - I know because I was there and I saw it. My Dad and brother were at Heysel and they have never recounted widespread violence - some trouble at the end yes, dealt with nastily by the Belgian police.

I noticed on Sky onThursday morning that the Rangers fans had "further tainted the reputation of British fans" - why is it that they are British when they cause trouble and Scottish when they don't, while English "fans" are never British?

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