What a load of crap Louder. Just keep trusting the sma epople who clearly have lied to and misled us about so many things we know about already.
Just keep trustin gthem without anythought. brilliant
It's astounding how someone who questions the Board based on some commonly known facts that raise honest questions about what is going on ends up being asked about whether they are a supporter or someone with an agenda or a takeover group stooge but people who insist on trusting the Board no matter what facts are available or defending the Board's right to lie to us if they choose to and to use us and betray our trust to enrich themselves foruther believe themselves to be truly loyal supporters.
Supporters like you are getting what you deserve for your blind faith. The peopblem is since you support our team we are being punished for that lack of objective judgment on your part.. I know we deserve better. I'm not so sure supporters like you do anymore I'm afraid. But I'll gladly share my joy at us winning things with you all the same, because I'd rather have a chance to share that than trust the Board to try and keep us in the top four with their obviously failing policies for the football team. You do remember the football team right - that's who we support really, not solely the business model or the share price or the return on investment to Board members.
Chill out - we can't change things. What will be, will be.
What are you gobbing off about Yankie doodleUSMartin wrote:What a load of crap Louder. Just keep trusting the sma epople who clearly have lied to and misled us about so many things we know about already.
Just keep trustin gthem without anythought. brilliant
It's astounding how someone who questions the Board based on some commonly known facts that raise honest questions about what is going on ends up being asked about whether they are a supporter or someone with an agenda or a takeover group stooge but people who insist on trusting the Board no matter what facts are available or defending the Board's right to lie to us if they choose to and to use us and betray our trust to enrich themselves foruther believe themselves to be truly loyal supporters.
Supporters like you are getting what you deserve for your blind faith. The peopblem is since you support our team we are being punished for that lack of objective judgment on your part.. I know we deserve better. I'm not so sure supporters like you do anymore I'm afraid. But I'll gladly share my joy at us winning things with you all the same, because I'd rather have a chance to share that than trust the Board to try and keep us in the top four with their obviously failing policies for the football team. You do remember the football team right - that's who we support really, not solely the business model or the share price or the return on investment to Board members.
In fact no, you deserve a title that reflects your regular and extremely long winded contributions. So .... Riddler it is !!
As we're exchanging pleasantries, how's the crusade going these day ? ( SHORT ANSWER PLEASE ! )
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Specifically, what are these lies?USMartin wrote:What a load of crap Louder. Just keep trusting the sma epople who clearly have lied to and misled us about so many things we know about already.
Just keep trustin gthem without anythought. brilliant
It's astounding how someone who questions the Board based on some commonly known facts that raise honest questions about what is going on ends up being asked about whether they are a supporter or someone with an agenda or a takeover group stooge but people who insist on trusting the Board no matter what facts are available or defending the Board's right to lie to us if they choose to and to use us and betray our trust to enrich themselves foruther believe themselves to be truly loyal supporters.
Supporters like you are getting what you deserve for your blind faith. The peopblem is since you support our team we are being punished for that lack of objective judgment on your part.. I know we deserve better. I'm not so sure supporters like you do anymore I'm afraid. But I'll gladly share my joy at us winning things with you all the same, because I'd rather have a chance to share that than trust the Board to try and keep us in the top four with their obviously failing policies for the football team. You do remember the football team right - that's who we support really, not solely the business model or the share price or the return on investment to Board members.
A special guest villain - I'd be honored except there has to be an ulteriro motive so I won't gush over you yetLouder wrote:What are you gobbing off about Yankie doodleUSMartin wrote:What a load of crap Louder. Just keep trusting the sma epople who clearly have lied to and misled us about so many things we know about already.
Just keep trustin gthem without anythought. brilliant
It's astounding how someone who questions the Board based on some commonly known facts that raise honest questions about what is going on ends up being asked about whether they are a supporter or someone with an agenda or a takeover group stooge but people who insist on trusting the Board no matter what facts are available or defending the Board's right to lie to us if they choose to and to use us and betray our trust to enrich themselves foruther believe themselves to be truly loyal supporters.
Supporters like you are getting what you deserve for your blind faith. The peopblem is since you support our team we are being punished for that lack of objective judgment on your part.. I know we deserve better. I'm not so sure supporters like you do anymore I'm afraid. But I'll gladly share my joy at us winning things with you all the same, because I'd rather have a chance to share that than trust the Board to try and keep us in the top four with their obviously failing policies for the football team. You do remember the football team right - that's who we support really, not solely the business model or the share price or the return on investment to Board members.
In fact no, you deserve a title that reflects your regular and extremely long winded contributions. So .... Riddler it is !!
As we're exchanging pleasantries, how's the crusade going these day ? ( SHORT ANSWER PLEASE ! )
The 'crusade' as you refer to it is going about as well as one would expect during the season and outside the transfer windows. We are working of finding ways to expand outreach to other Gooners on the issues currently, even as I wonder how Gooners here who should be signing as they share these concerns are clearly reluctant to. Hope fully this will change soon, though I suspect it may well change on its own around January.
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USMartin wrote:A special guest villain - I'd be honored except there has to be an ulteriro motive so I won't gush over you yetLouder wrote:What are you gobbing off about Yankie doodleUSMartin wrote:What a load of crap Louder. Just keep trusting the sma epople who clearly have lied to and misled us about so many things we know about already.
Just keep trustin gthem without anythought. brilliant
It's astounding how someone who questions the Board based on some commonly known facts that raise honest questions about what is going on ends up being asked about whether they are a supporter or someone with an agenda or a takeover group stooge but people who insist on trusting the Board no matter what facts are available or defending the Board's right to lie to us if they choose to and to use us and betray our trust to enrich themselves foruther believe themselves to be truly loyal supporters.
Supporters like you are getting what you deserve for your blind faith. The peopblem is since you support our team we are being punished for that lack of objective judgment on your part.. I know we deserve better. I'm not so sure supporters like you do anymore I'm afraid. But I'll gladly share my joy at us winning things with you all the same, because I'd rather have a chance to share that than trust the Board to try and keep us in the top four with their obviously failing policies for the football team. You do remember the football team right - that's who we support really, not solely the business model or the share price or the return on investment to Board members.
In fact no, you deserve a title that reflects your regular and extremely long winded contributions. So .... Riddler it is !!
As we're exchanging pleasantries, how's the crusade going these day ? ( SHORT ANSWER PLEASE ! )
The 'crusade' as you refer to it is going about as well as one would expect during the season and outside the transfer windows. We are working of finding ways to expand outreach to other Gooners on the issues currently, even as I wonder how Gooners here who should be signing as they share these concerns are clearly reluctant to. Hope fully this will change soon, though I suspect it may well change on its own around January.
Seriously doubt that.
But what specifically are these lies that you say the board has been telling?
Despite my reticence to do so for obvious reasons, I will answer Olgit's question - they have lied about a number of things, most specifically that there would be no and has been no financial impact on the football team because of the new stadium
David Dein said the following in 2001
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 19886.html
But the Arsenal vice-chairman, David Dein, said: "There is no point in having a great stadium if you haven't got a great team to play in it. All the money Arsène Wenger needs for team-building will still be available.
"We have always had a budget for what happens on the pitch. It is entirely separate to the one for what happens off it and that won't change."
"Arsène signed a new four-year contract last week on the back of our ambitions for the future both on and off the field and those aspirations are still the same[/b]."
Keith Edelman said the following in 2004
http://www.arsenal.com/155/unhoused-imp ... nsfer-fund
"We can invest that money in the purchase of new players then the extra revenue from the new stadium can not only repay the debt but also give increased revenues to the Club.
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"We do spend a lot of money already on a high wage bill but we've never had the big transfers of some other clubs before. Now we will have both of those together."
And Dan Fiszman said in 2008
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/ ... 630035.ece
“If Arsène said he needed £30 million for a striker, he would get it, no problem at all,â€
David Dein said the following in 2001
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 19886.html
But the Arsenal vice-chairman, David Dein, said: "There is no point in having a great stadium if you haven't got a great team to play in it. All the money Arsène Wenger needs for team-building will still be available.
"We have always had a budget for what happens on the pitch. It is entirely separate to the one for what happens off it and that won't change."
"Arsène signed a new four-year contract last week on the back of our ambitions for the future both on and off the field and those aspirations are still the same[/b]."
Keith Edelman said the following in 2004
http://www.arsenal.com/155/unhoused-imp ... nsfer-fund
"We can invest that money in the purchase of new players then the extra revenue from the new stadium can not only repay the debt but also give increased revenues to the Club.
"
"We do spend a lot of money already on a high wage bill but we've never had the big transfers of some other clubs before. Now we will have both of those together."
And Dan Fiszman said in 2008
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/ ... 630035.ece
“If Arsène said he needed £30 million for a striker, he would get it, no problem at all,â€
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Ooooh! USmartin is organising an international revolution. This should be fun.olgitgooner wrote:USMartin wrote:A special guest villain - I'd be honored except there has to be an ulteriro motive so I won't gush over you yetLouder wrote:What are you gobbing off about Yankie doodleUSMartin wrote:What a load of crap Louder. Just keep trusting the sma epople who clearly have lied to and misled us about so many things we know about already.
Just keep trustin gthem without anythought. brilliant
It's astounding how someone who questions the Board based on some commonly known facts that raise honest questions about what is going on ends up being asked about whether they are a supporter or someone with an agenda or a takeover group stooge but people who insist on trusting the Board no matter what facts are available or defending the Board's right to lie to us if they choose to and to use us and betray our trust to enrich themselves foruther believe themselves to be truly loyal supporters.
Supporters like you are getting what you deserve for your blind faith. The peopblem is since you support our team we are being punished for that lack of objective judgment on your part.. I know we deserve better. I'm not so sure supporters like you do anymore I'm afraid. But I'll gladly share my joy at us winning things with you all the same, because I'd rather have a chance to share that than trust the Board to try and keep us in the top four with their obviously failing policies for the football team. You do remember the football team right - that's who we support really, not solely the business model or the share price or the return on investment to Board members.
In fact no, you deserve a title that reflects your regular and extremely long winded contributions. So .... Riddler it is !!
As we're exchanging pleasantries, how's the crusade going these day ? ( SHORT ANSWER PLEASE ! )
The 'crusade' as you refer to it is going about as well as one would expect during the season and outside the transfer windows. We are working of finding ways to expand outreach to other Gooners on the issues currently, even as I wonder how Gooners here who should be signing as they share these concerns are clearly reluctant to. Hope fully this will change soon, though I suspect it may well change on its own around January.
Seriously doubt that.
But what specifically are these lies that you say the board has been telling?
USmartin is a real character though. I think he makes the board entertaining (thats the discussion board and not the Arsenal governance board)
I definately will! Very good business indeed. Don't know who they'll sell it to but yea, a good profit. I wish I had a few shares.USMartin wrote:Nobody's organizing a revolution. Be sure to congratulate the Board for making a killing when they sell us to some hicks/Gillette types who leverage us into administration because that's what this is all about after all.
I don't doubt it at all. Even your friend Quartz has suggested otherwise - that there is the force for action within our supporters when the time arises - my worry would be what is the point of protesting when its too late?. You can think what you like of me but I remember when there were thirty of you for every one of me, and now there aren't even three, and there will be less if this continues come January and even less come May. then. Believe it. Not everyone is as blindly loyal or willfully naive as you or will carry on that way as you no doubt will.olgitgooner wrote:USMartin wrote:A special guest villain - I'd be honored except there has to be an ulteriro motive so I won't gush over you yetLouder wrote:What are you gobbing off about Yankie doodleUSMartin wrote:What a load of crap Louder. Just keep trusting the sma epople who clearly have lied to and misled us about so many things we know about already.
Just keep trustin gthem without anythought. brilliant
It's astounding how someone who questions the Board based on some commonly known facts that raise honest questions about what is going on ends up being asked about whether they are a supporter or someone with an agenda or a takeover group stooge but people who insist on trusting the Board no matter what facts are available or defending the Board's right to lie to us if they choose to and to use us and betray our trust to enrich themselves foruther believe themselves to be truly loyal supporters.
Supporters like you are getting what you deserve for your blind faith. The peopblem is since you support our team we are being punished for that lack of objective judgment on your part.. I know we deserve better. I'm not so sure supporters like you do anymore I'm afraid. But I'll gladly share my joy at us winning things with you all the same, because I'd rather have a chance to share that than trust the Board to try and keep us in the top four with their obviously failing policies for the football team. You do remember the football team right - that's who we support really, not solely the business model or the share price or the return on investment to Board members.
In fact no, you deserve a title that reflects your regular and extremely long winded contributions. So .... Riddler it is !!
As we're exchanging pleasantries, how's the crusade going these day ? ( SHORT ANSWER PLEASE ! )
The 'crusade' as you refer to it is going about as well as one would expect during the season and outside the transfer windows. We are working of finding ways to expand outreach to other Gooners on the issues currently, even as I wonder how Gooners here who should be signing as they share these concerns are clearly reluctant to. Hope fully this will change soon, though I suspect it may well change on its own around January.
Seriously doubt that.
But what specifically are these lies that you say the board has been telling?
Add to that that surely there me be more upsetting things done by the club and said by the Board between now and then and it's inevitable. It may not be my petition they sign or my call they rally to but as long as they sign some petition for Arsenal and rally to some call for Arsenal I could care less - I am perfectly happy.
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I wish you cared a bit more about the club than who makes how much from betraying it. I'm sorry but that is exactly how you portray yourself. I'm not the only one to see it either.Iceman29 wrote:I definately will! Very good business indeed. Don't know who they'll sell it to but yea, a good profit. I wish I had a few shares.USMartin wrote:Nobody's organizing a revolution. Be sure to congratulate the Board for making a killing when they sell us to some hicks/Gillette types who leverage us into administration because that's what this is all about after all.
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