England 2018 World Cup bid

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Post by marcengels »

It's all about the money.

What about youth football, grassroots programmes? there are dozens of more worthwhile countries to hold it that qatar, not including the rival bidders.

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Arsenal 1991 wrote:
Iceman29 wrote:
Arsenal 1991 wrote:
Iceman29 wrote:
Arsenal 1991 wrote: Its our tourist board's advice, homosexuality is illegal is it not
As I am not a homosexual, I would not know. If they say it, the I have no evidence to doubt them.
Don't you think thats a shocking and an absolute disgrace in this day and age???!??!!

I would love us to unleash plane loads of britains on them, see how they handle it.

Also how are they going to handle having twice their population flooding into their country.

F1 is one thing but a world cup is a completely different kettle of fish
Not really as they have their own laws and regulations that people need to respect just as they need to respect UK's laws and regulations. UK needs to respect their customs while being there and they need to respect UK's customs while being here.

Trust me, they have loads of Brits who live and work in that country. You have no idea. I have on multiple occasions gone to Doha and seen the plane fully packed with Brits. Sometimes I got the feeling that I was in the UK rather than Doha. They have a big enough country and plenty of finance to build all the infrastructure required.

These guys employ some of the best people in the world who will give them all the advice and help to manage the event.
So its homosexuality being illegal is alright then :shock: :x :evil: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Again not a concern from a personal level but if people over here say that women should not be allowed to wear the veil so if they don't approve of homosexuality, I don't see an issue. Its their culture and needs to be respected similarly as UK's culture needs to be respected

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Post by RNTGOONER »

If what the tourist board says is true about gays being illegal, how can fifa be in support of kicking racism and homophobia out of football and then let them host the world cup - if i was a :gayflag: international footballer i would be disgusted by this.

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Post by Iceman29 »

marcengels wrote:It's all about the money.

What about youth football, grassroots programmes? there are dozens of more worthwhile countries to hold it that qatar, not including the rival bidders.
Don't the people of Qatar and the middle east have a right to having youth football and grassroots programmes? As the previous world cup belonged to Africa this will belong to Middle East and I am all for it

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Iceman29 wrote:
Arsenal 1991 wrote:
Iceman29 wrote:
Arsenal 1991 wrote:
Iceman29 wrote: As I am not a homosexual, I would not know. If they say it, the I have no evidence to doubt them.
Don't you think thats a shocking and an absolute disgrace in this day and age???!??!!

I would love us to unleash plane loads of britains on them, see how they handle it.

Also how are they going to handle having twice their population flooding into their country.

F1 is one thing but a world cup is a completely different kettle of fish
Not really as they have their own laws and regulations that people need to respect just as they need to respect UK's laws and regulations. UK needs to respect their customs while being there and they need to respect UK's customs while being here.

Trust me, they have loads of Brits who live and work in that country. You have no idea. I have on multiple occasions gone to Doha and seen the plane fully packed with Brits. Sometimes I got the feeling that I was in the UK rather than Doha. They have a big enough country and plenty of finance to build all the infrastructure required.

These guys employ some of the best people in the world who will give them all the advice and help to manage the event.
So its homosexuality being illegal is alright then :shock: :x :evil: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Again not a concern from a personal level but if people over here say that women should not be allowed to wear the veil so if they don't approve of homosexuality, I don't see an issue. Its their culture and needs to be respected similarly as UK's culture needs to be respected
are you being serious???, I dont fucking care that is part of their culture. Its disguisting. You may not have had any issues there, but amnesty international are very concerned with their treatment of women and foreigners.

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Arsenal 1991 wrote:
Iceman29 wrote:
Arsenal 1991 wrote:
Iceman29 wrote:
Arsenal 1991 wrote: Don't you think thats a shocking and an absolute disgrace in this day and age???!??!!

I would love us to unleash plane loads of britains on them, see how they handle it.

Also how are they going to handle having twice their population flooding into their country.

F1 is one thing but a world cup is a completely different kettle of fish
Not really as they have their own laws and regulations that people need to respect just as they need to respect UK's laws and regulations. UK needs to respect their customs while being there and they need to respect UK's customs while being here.

Trust me, they have loads of Brits who live and work in that country. You have no idea. I have on multiple occasions gone to Doha and seen the plane fully packed with Brits. Sometimes I got the feeling that I was in the UK rather than Doha. They have a big enough country and plenty of finance to build all the infrastructure required.

These guys employ some of the best people in the world who will give them all the advice and help to manage the event.
So its homosexuality being illegal is alright then :shock: :x :evil: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Again not a concern from a personal level but if people over here say that women should not be allowed to wear the veil so if they don't approve of homosexuality, I don't see an issue. Its their culture and needs to be respected similarly as UK's culture needs to be respected
are you being serious???, I dont fucking care that is part of their culture. Its disguisting. You may not have had any issues there, but amnesty international are very concerned with their treatment of women and foreigners.
Amnesty International have a problem with every single country in the world including the UK and US.

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Iceman29 wrote:
Arsenal 1991 wrote:
Iceman29 wrote:
Arsenal 1991 wrote:
Iceman29 wrote: Don't you think thats a shocking and an absolute disgrace in this day and age???!??!!

I would love us to unleash plane loads of britains on them, see how they handle it.

Also how are they going to handle having twice their population flooding into their country.

F1 is one thing but a world cup is a completely different kettle of fish
Not really as they have their own laws and regulations that people need to respect just as they need to respect UK's laws and regulations. UK needs to respect their customs while being there and they need to respect UK's customs while being here.

Trust me, they have loads of Brits who live and work in that country. You have no idea. I have on multiple occasions gone to Doha and seen the plane fully packed with Brits. Sometimes I got the feeling that I was in the UK rather than Doha. They have a big enough country and plenty of finance to build all the infrastructure required.

These guys employ some of the best people in the world who will give them all the advice and help to manage the event.
So its homosexuality being illegal is alright then :shock: :x :evil: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Again not a concern from a personal level but if people over here say that women should not be allowed to wear the veil so if they don't approve of homosexuality, I don't see an issue. Its their culture and needs to be respected similarly as UK's culture needs to be respected
are you being serious???, I dont fucking care that is part of their culture. Its disguisting. You may not have had any issues there, but amnesty international are very concerned with their treatment of women and foreigners.
Amnesty International have a problem with every single country in the world including the UK and US.[/quote]

So do you not agree that its a fucking disgrace that homosexuality is illegal???
What if theres is an openly gay player by then?

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Post by Iceman29 »

Arsenal 1991 wrote:
Iceman29 wrote:
Arsenal 1991 wrote:
Iceman29 wrote:
Arsenal 1991 wrote: Don't you think thats a shocking and an absolute disgrace in this day and age???!??!!

I would love us to unleash plane loads of britains on them, see how they handle it.

Also how are they going to handle having twice their population flooding into their country.

F1 is one thing but a world cup is a completely different kettle of fish
Not really as they have their own laws and regulations that people need to respect just as they need to respect UK's laws and regulations. UK needs to respect their customs while being there and they need to respect UK's customs while being here.

Trust me, they have loads of Brits who live and work in that country. You have no idea. I have on multiple occasions gone to Doha and seen the plane fully packed with Brits. Sometimes I got the feeling that I was in the UK rather than Doha. They have a big enough country and plenty of finance to build all the infrastructure required.

These guys employ some of the best people in the world who will give them all the advice and help to manage the event.
So its homosexuality being illegal is alright then :shock: :x :evil: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Again not a concern from a personal level but if people over here say that women should not be allowed to wear the veil so if they don't approve of homosexuality, I don't see an issue. Its their culture and needs to be respected similarly as UK's culture needs to be respected
are you being serious???, I dont fucking care that is part of their culture. Its disguisting. You may not have had any issues there, but amnesty international are very concerned with their treatment of women and foreigners.
Amnesty International have a problem with every single country in the world including the UK and US.[/quote]

So do you not agree that its a fucking disgrace that homosexuality is illegal???
What if theres is an openly gay player by then?[/quote]

I don't think that will be a problem. What I would think is illegal is marriage between same sex and stuff like that. If any foreigner is a gay / lesbian or even a player, it won't be an issue.

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If I remember well, 1994 World Cup was held in a country that burns people to death in electric chairs. Also, that coutry had no real interest in football. I know internet wasn't around then, but I don't remember any protests against WC being held in US of A.
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Also what the hell is going to happen to all the infrastructure when the world cup is over. I think almost 4 times the population of qatar went to matches the sa world cup.

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Post by Arsenal 1991 »

Iceman29 wrote:
Arsenal 1991 wrote:
Iceman29 wrote:
Arsenal 1991 wrote:
Iceman29 wrote: Don't you think thats a shocking and an absolute disgrace in this day and age???!??!!

I would love us to unleash plane loads of britains on them, see how they handle it.

Also how are they going to handle having twice their population flooding into their country.

F1 is one thing but a world cup is a completely different kettle of fish
Not really as they have their own laws and regulations that people need to respect just as they need to respect UK's laws and regulations. UK needs to respect their customs while being there and they need to respect UK's customs while being here.

Trust me, they have loads of Brits who live and work in that country. You have no idea. I have on multiple occasions gone to Doha and seen the plane fully packed with Brits. Sometimes I got the feeling that I was in the UK rather than Doha. They have a big enough country and plenty of finance to build all the infrastructure required.

These guys employ some of the best people in the world who will give them all the advice and help to manage the event.
So its homosexuality being illegal is alright then :shock: :x :evil: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Again not a concern from a personal level but if people over here say that women should not be allowed to wear the veil so if they don't approve of homosexuality, I don't see an issue. Its their culture and needs to be respected similarly as UK's culture needs to be respected
are you being serious???, I dont fucking care that is part of their culture. Its disguisting. You may not have had any issues there, but amnesty international are very concerned with their treatment of women and foreigners.
Amnesty International have a problem with every single country in the world including the UK and US.[/quote]

So do you not agree that its a fucking disgrace that homosexuality is illegal???
What if theres is an openly gay player by then?[/quote]

I don't think that will be a problem. What I would think is illegal is marriage between same sex and stuff like that. If any foreigner is a gay / lesbian or even a player, it won't be an issue.[/quote]

its a huge issue, its not the 1900s anymore.

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Post by Iceman29 »

skipper wrote:If I remember well, 1994 World Cup was held in a country that burns people to death in electric chairs. Also, that coutry had no real interest in football. I know internet wasn't around then, but I don't remember any protests against WC being held in US of A.
The real issue is that Qatar is an Islamic country and in the Middle East and are thought to be backwards and conservative.

While the USA is a Christian country, fairly liberal and all that.

In all honesty its all about the above.

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Post by skipper »

1978 WC was held in a coutry that was run by a pro-fascist military junta.

1938 WC was held in openly fascist country.

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Arsenal 1991 wrote:Also what the hell is going to happen to all the infrastructure when the world cup is over. I think almost 4 times the population of qatar went to matches the sa world cup.
Its good for the country and tourism. Ever seen anyone complain about excessive infrastructure. Qatar also plan to dismantle some of the stadiums and donate them to the poorer countries and re-build them in those countries

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Post by Iceman29 »

Arsenal 1991 wrote:
Iceman29 wrote:
Arsenal 1991 wrote:
Iceman29 wrote:
Arsenal 1991 wrote: Don't you think thats a shocking and an absolute disgrace in this day and age???!??!!

I would love us to unleash plane loads of britains on them, see how they handle it.

Also how are they going to handle having twice their population flooding into their country.

F1 is one thing but a world cup is a completely different kettle of fish
Not really as they have their own laws and regulations that people need to respect just as they need to respect UK's laws and regulations. UK needs to respect their customs while being there and they need to respect UK's customs while being here.

Trust me, they have loads of Brits who live and work in that country. You have no idea. I have on multiple occasions gone to Doha and seen the plane fully packed with Brits. Sometimes I got the feeling that I was in the UK rather than Doha. They have a big enough country and plenty of finance to build all the infrastructure required.

These guys employ some of the best people in the world who will give them all the advice and help to manage the event.
So its homosexuality being illegal is alright then :shock: :x :evil: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Again not a concern from a personal level but if people over here say that women should not be allowed to wear the veil so if they don't approve of homosexuality, I don't see an issue. Its their culture and needs to be respected similarly as UK's culture needs to be respected
are you being serious???, I dont fucking care that is part of their culture. Its disguisting. You may not have had any issues there, but amnesty international are very concerned with their treatment of women and foreigners.
Amnesty International have a problem with every single country in the world including the UK and US.[/quote]

So do you not agree that its a fucking disgrace that homosexuality is illegal???
What if theres is an openly gay player by then?[/quote]

I don't think that will be a problem. What I would think is illegal is marriage between same sex and stuff like that. If any foreigner is a gay / lesbian or even a player, it won't be an issue.[/quote]

its a huge issue, its not the 1900s anymore.[/quote]

You're making a mountain out of a mole hill my friend.

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