Arsenal v Manure

DanielD · Post by **DanielD** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:50 pm

DB10GOONER wrote:Denilson is just very poor technically (for a Brazillian too!). His passing is rancid, he cannot tackle and he has no pace whatsoever.

That sums him up perfectly.

selsdon · Post by **selsdon** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:50 pm

We cant compete in terms of wages with the super rich chelsea and the debt gambling man u.

Fallacy, our average wage bill is on a par with both those clubs

LeftfootlegendGooner · Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:51 pm

thatgooner wrote:Really pissed off with that result tonight. I thought we could have got a result out of that game, we had chances, its just that they finished theirs and we didn't.

Our team definately has its holes and is not good enough to win this league IMO. However i dont agree with all this.. 'name your price for rob green' and 'get 'kenwin jones' shit.

I think that spending our money on shit like jones who scores fuck all would be a bigger error than not buying at all.
I dont think we'll get anyone tomorrow and I think we'll finish 3rd. But I still believe in Wenger, the man is a top draw boss and this result doesn't change that for me. We cant compete in terms of wages with the super rich chelsea and the debt gambling man u.
Lets see what happens next sunday. Im still hoping for 7 points from these 4 games.. which means 2 wins lol

I thought we had the 2nd HIGHEST wage bill last year, so bang goes that argument if the tv reports i was watching were correct.

thatgooner · Post by **thatgooner** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:55 pm

Our wages are capped at 80k, while its reported that Rooney is to be offered 150k.

selsdon · Post by **selsdon** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:56 pm

that's why i said average wage bill

thatgooner · Post by **thatgooner** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:57 pm

selsdon wrote:We cant compete in terms of wages with the super rich chelsea and the debt gambling man u.

Fallacy, our average wage bill is on a par with both those clubs

20mill a year less than man u.
49 mill less than chelsea

Post by **SPUDMASHER** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:58 pm

MM99 wrote:
SPUDMASHER wrote:I think that proved what a lot of us already believed to be the case. We're not good enough! We're not a bad team but we're definitely not good enough for the final push. As soon as we come up against quality opposition, we fail. It happened against Manure, Chelsea and now Manure again.
I think we'll still get a top four spot but we definitely will not win a trophy this season.

Oh well.......at least the loan is getting paid off nice and quickly, never mind the team.
oh shut the fuck up with the gloating 'proved what a lot of us already believed to be the case'

we are good enough, and we could have won the league, or at least gone the whole way. it doesnt matter if weve lost against man u and chelsea, in the 08 season out of the top four mini league we finished first, but we finished 4th overall in the league. those games have no difference. stop being so over dramatic. its all the other games against the mid table and lower league sides that count.

this team is good enough to win the league if it wasnt for the stupid mistakes some players make from time to time which has ultimately cost us points.

No I won't shut up
No I'm not gloating, and
No, this team is not good enough to win the league

Yes, it does matter that we lost against Manure and Chelsea
Yes, those games do make a difference
Yes, there were pletny of stupid mistakes and it is those mistakes that mean we're not good enough.

Believe me, I'm not happy about today and I would much rather have come on here and celebrated a famous win. Unfortunately because some of our players are clearly not good enough and made a lot of mistakes I'm unable to do that.
Blame them, not me

xDAVEYx · Post by **xDAVEYx** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:59 pm

yeah but how many of our poor/average players are on wages that accumulate to nearly 150k?

denilson, almunia, eboue and diaby < rooney in terms of ability, work rate and even commercial value!

selsdon · Post by **selsdon** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:00 pm

Don't know what source you're using but it's wrong.

Arsenal's wage bill was just Â£2m less than Manchester United's, according to figures from Deloitte and Touche

Post by **SPUDMASHER** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:03 pm

selsdon wrote:Don't know what source you're using but it's wrong.

Arsenal's wage bill was just Â£2m less than Manchester United's, according to figures from Deloitte and Touche

100% correct.

Fucking embarrasing really isn't it when you look at the other differences.

thatgooner · Post by **thatgooner** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:03 pm

Edit: After cross checking my source (guardian) my info appears incorrect.
If this is the case then i want wenger out now.

selsdon · Post by **selsdon** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:07 pm

You're talking as if our prudence will somehow eventually help us

our wage bill is over Â£100 million a year

selsdon · Post by **selsdon** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:09 pm

If we weren't highest priced ticket prices in the world and if we weren't the second highest wage payer in the land then this current crop of shyte would be a lot easier to digest

Lethal · Post by **Lethal** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:12 pm

Clichy
Denilson
Almunia
Walcott
Bendtner

Not good enough.

Wenger is blind,things will never change.

worthing_gooner · Post by **worthing_gooner** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:15 pm

Nail on the head Selsdon - We pay the highest ticket prices in england and fill the stadium up week in week out. Where is that money reinvested because its not going on transfers.....?