Unai Emery

As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
Post Reply
User avatar
sk-gtfo
Posts: 1965
Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2017 4:59 pm
Location: Staying away

Re: Unai Emery

Post by sk-gtfo »

clockender1 wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 7:39 pm
Im keeping an open mind right now,

Whilst his selection of xhaka is mind boggling, he has also correctly shown great faith in Willock, Saka, and Dozer.

The latter who, he brought to the club and is becoming our best player.

He has also kept Chambers around who played well his first game and today.

His purchase of Torreira was also a really good buy. Ceballos is looking good but the other guy was clearly not fit to play for us last year.

Saliba and KT look good buys too.

Pepe i thought did well today, and it showed guts to step up and take the pen. He also played mostly out wide with saka in the middle. I think his first touch and control are good and he was mainly double teamed which created space in the middle for auba, saka, Torreira, Dozer to run in to.

So whilst our defence lurches from passable to horrendous, i do see some positives.

Imho he has to start saka and holding next week.
He's the coach and has little effect on signings, by all accounts Torriera was a Mislintat signing, the later one's likely some of Mislintat's targets or advised by others such as Caggigao who has unofficially replaced Sven.

I also think the reason he has played some youth players (this season) is he is under instruction to do so, we saw Raul saying something about using the academy more in the summer, last season Emery was very stubborn and kept picking more senior players.

Emery is not the man to take us forward, hopefully he can get us in the top 4 and leave in the summer, but I have my doubts if we keep conceding 2+ goals even against clubs from the bottom 5.

User avatar
Blim
Posts: 234
Joined: Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:11 am
Location: Babylon 5

Re: Unai Emery

Post by Blim »

I am all for giving his a chance however, some of his decisions are unreal, why does he persist in stating the walking nightmare Xahka and AMN both are liabilities and it's like giving the other team a goal start playing them. We were better yesterday with 10 men when AMN and Xhaka were not playing. I am starting to think he is not the one to take us to glory. Jury is still out but some of his decisions meme :cry:

Gunner Rob
Posts: 9796
Joined: Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:05 pm

Re: Unai Emery

Post by Gunner Rob »

General wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 9:00 pm
northbank123 wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 5:44 pm
We seem to be getting worse, more poorly organised and even more of a shambles. There is no justification for picking Xhaka every week. Our young players are being messed about and most players look worse after playing under Emery for a while.
Xhaka’s presence is having a cascading effect on the team and surely a coach who swears by video analysis can see this?? Dick’s remit is coaching, team selection and game management and he’s failing on all counts. Defensive frailties, team looking punch drunk, poor discipline and subs on 70mins - This is all starting to look painfully familiar and you can predict what’s going to happen at United next week. The lack of an emerging philosophy and playing identity tell us everything we need to know. Strangely he’s abandoned the pragmatic approach that served him so well in the first half of last season in favour of an ideological stance and unless this changes soon he’ll be gone in the summer at the latest.
Xhaka wasn't at his best yesterday, but i think that Emery is right in saying that he is an important member of the squad.
He played ok on Thursday. I would prefer Torreira to play more though.

I reckon we should be confident going to United next week - they are in worse shape than us.

User avatar
shu
Posts: 1598
Joined: Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:47 pm
Location: Norwich

Re: Unai Emery

Post by shu »

Blim wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:01 am
I am all for giving his a chance however, some of his decisions are unreal, why does he persist in stating the walking nightmare Xahka and AMN both are liabilities and it's like giving the other team a goal start playing them. We were better yesterday with 10 men when AMN and Xhaka were not playing. I am starting to think he is not the one to take us to glory. Jury is still out but some of his decisions meme :cry:
I agree Xhaka and AMN are crap , maybe the manager should work that out. I hope we are looking at a replacement is i don't think Emery has a clue.

User avatar
Blim
Posts: 234
Joined: Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:11 am
Location: Babylon 5

Re: Unai Emery

Post by Blim »

shu wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:24 pm
Blim wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:01 am
I am all for giving his a chance however, some of his decisions are unreal, why does he persist in stating the walking nightmare Xahka and AMN both are liabilities and it's like giving the other team a goal start playing them. We were better yesterday with 10 men when AMN and Xhaka were not playing. I am starting to think he is not the one to take us to glory. Jury is still out but some of his decisions meme :cry:
I agree Xhaka and AMN are crap , maybe the manager should work that out. I hope we are looking at a replacement is i don't think Emery has a clue.
He needs to start sorting out the mess we are in otherwise it could get ugly, why he persists with those to clown god only knows.

General
Posts: 1492
Joined: Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:34 pm
Location: London

Re: Unai Emery

Post by General »

Take the Xhakles off, and the team looks better with 10men.

User avatar
Nos89
Posts: 4568
Joined: Fri Aug 14, 2009 3:44 am

Re: Unai Emery

Post by Nos89 »

shu wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:24 pm
Blim wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:01 am
I am all for giving his a chance however, some of his decisions are unreal, why does he persist in stating the walking nightmare Xahka and AMN both are liabilities and it's like giving the other team a goal start playing them. We were better yesterday with 10 men when AMN and Xhaka were not playing. I am starting to think he is not the one to take us to glory. Jury is still out but some of his decisions meme :cry:
I agree Xhaka and AMN are crap , maybe the manager should work that out. I hope we are looking at a replacement is i don't think Emery has a clue.
Xhaka has shown time and time again he's a good player in European matches, however, like a few players before him struggles with the Premier League. He struggles with the power and the pace of the modern English game. He's better suited to Italian or Spanish leagues where he has slightly more time. A modern John Jensen.
AMN is not crap. He's also not a right back even though he creates good opportunities, got the skill to get past players and can put a decent cross into the box.He's a midfielder and I hope he gets the chance to play there.
Emery tries to be too clever with his tactics. He needs to get back to basics and build from there. That's how he started last season and we managed a great unbeaten run. He needs to set his team formation up and stick with it for a prolonged settled period of time. Next match away at Manure is absolutely crucial for him to get right. Otherwise, he'll be at risk of going before Marco silva

User avatar
Nos89
Posts: 4568
Joined: Fri Aug 14, 2009 3:44 am

Re: Unai Emery

Post by Nos89 »

Redarmy wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 6:43 pm
Nos89 wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:02 am
Whatever happened to the squad that caused the catastrophic implosion of the last 5 games of last season does not appear to have been addressed. I'm not even sure Emery knows what happened, he looked completely shell shocked at the end of the europa league final.
The self destructiveness was still evident against both spurs and Watford.
Even though he has shipped out a lot of deadwood and brought 5 new players it is still there. What is the cause of this element in Arsenal's play?

Someone said chambers isn't the answer yet he's played in both games in which we've not conceded this season.

Whilst emery isn't hanging by a thread, mourinho has already submitted his application by treating every analysis he's given of arsenal this season as a job interview. He's already sat in Fergusons chair, he must be desperate to sit in wengers old seat.
The Gunners have made 14 errors leading directly to Premier League goals since August 2018, more than any other side.
They have also conceded a joint-league high 10 penalties since the start of last season, including three in the current campaign.
Since Unai Emery took charge, Arsenal have faced an unrivalled 47 Premier League shots after losing possession within 40m of their own goal.

All down to injuries apparently :rubchin:
In wengers first 47 games his team received more red cards (11) than any other team in the premier league during the same time. Emery has also collected more league points than wenger did in his first 47 games. What doe s that prove?

General
Posts: 1492
Joined: Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:34 pm
Location: London

Re: Unai Emery

Post by General »

Did he really put Xhaka at right back after Maitland Niles was sent off? Absolute bonkers.

User avatar
OneBardGooner
Posts: 48144
Joined: Sat Apr 04, 2009 9:41 am
Location: Close To The Edge

Re: Unai Emery

Post by OneBardGooner »

Emery's persistence with making bad decisions on team selection IS worrying, it's not as if any of those decisions have been shown to be working, as we seem to limp from game to game - going behind and having to struggle to get back into the game.


Xhakawanka is simply Not Good Enough, yet Emery seems intent on playing him no matter how badly he is performing and continuing to make costly mistakes.

There is a sense Deja Vu about this and THAT gives me genuine reason to be concerned. :(

User avatar
DB10GOONER
Posts: 62164
Joined: Tue Jan 16, 2007 2:06 pm
Location: Dublin, Ireland.
Contact:

Re: Unai Emery

Post by DB10GOONER »

Dick's insistence on playing utter gash like Xhakatard (as captain to boot!) reeks of manager megalomaniac syndrome tbh - something Wenger had in spades.

The player is fucking obviously useless and the media have pointed out how shit the player is, interweb forums and social media are full of justified vitriol towards the player, the fans have cheered his substitution ffs.... and yet Dick sticks by him. More than a hint of "no one is gonna tell me what to do" about it.

User avatar
bunch
Posts: 564
Joined: Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:08 pm
Location: UK

Re: Unai Emery

Post by bunch »

DB10GOONER wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:29 pm
Dick's insistence on playing utter gash like Xhakatard (as captain to boot!) reeks of manager megalomaniac syndrome tbh - something Wenger had in spades.

The player is fucking obviously useless and the media have pointed out how shit the player is, interweb forums and social media are full of justified vitriol towards the player, the fans have cheered his substitution ffs.... and yet Dick sticks by him. More than a hint of "no one is gonna tell me what to do" about it.
It could be that the Özil situation has limited Emery's room for maneuver in that he has already sidelined one expensive experienced player so feels he cannot do it with another. Justifying to Raul, Edu and KSE that you have decided circa £500k per week of talent is basically not going to get used is a tough one for a coach whose role is to get the best out of the resources he has to hand. He has failed to get Özil to play how he wants, he will be desparate to make Xhaka impove.

Jock Gooner
Posts: 2788
Joined: Sat Jun 02, 2012 7:53 am

Re: Unai Emery

Post by Jock Gooner »

bunch wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 2:49 pm
DB10GOONER wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:29 pm
Dick's insistence on playing utter gash like Xhakatard (as captain to boot!) reeks of manager megalomaniac syndrome tbh - something a Wenger had in spades.

The player is fucking obviously useless and the media have pointed out how shit the player is, interweb forums and social media are full of justifued vitriol towards the player, the fans have cheered his substitution ffs.... and yet Dick sticks by him. More than a hint of "no one is gonna tell me what to do" about it.
It could be that the Özil situation has limited Emery's room for maneuver in that he has already sidelined one expensive experienced player so feels he cannot do it with another. Justifying to Raul, Edu and KSE that you have decided circa £500k per week of talent is basically not going to get used is a tough one for a coach whose role is to get the best out of the resources he has to hand. He has failed to get Özil to play how he wants, he will be desparate to make Xhaka impove.

Fair point - the buck does stop with Dick. I hope he's the religious type cos boy he's gonna need a fu.cking miracle.

clockender1
Posts: 6257
Joined: Wed Nov 15, 2006 5:53 pm

Re: Unai Emery

Post by clockender1 »

bunch wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 2:49 pm

It could be that the Özil situation has limited Emery's room for maneuver in that he has already sidelined one expensive experienced player so feels he cannot do it with another. Justifying to Raul, Edu and KSE that you have decided circa £500k per week of talent is basically not going to get used is a tough one for a coach whose role is to get the best out of the resources he has to hand. He has failed to get Özil to play how he wants, he will be desparate to make Xhaka impove.
Exactly. And hes already sidelined mustafi who is also on big wages and the plc paid what - 35 mill for ???

From a purely business perspective, every game ozil, mustafi and xhaka dont play is costing the business millions in lost re-sale value.

Its shit, but the board is going to encourage Dick not to write off tens of millions of Dollars.

We should be grateful that at least he was able to drop mustafi.

I note that Holding took the armband last night after Ozil went off, and not mustafi who nwas the more senior player.

Thanks for small mercies etc.

User avatar
Nos89
Posts: 4568
Joined: Fri Aug 14, 2009 3:44 am

Re: Unai Emery

Post by Nos89 »

Two cup games, different competitions 8 goals scored, 0 conceded. Both with mustafi at CB, different goalkeeper and a different approach in the midfield. Why so competant in cup games but not in Premier League.
Eintract Franfurt are a better team than both Watford and Aston Villa, yet we struggled in the league games. Maybe, it's time to give Martinez a chance in the league as Leno is conceding too many goals. Did so last year and continued this season. If I recall, the last time Martinez played in the league for us he did rather well for a third choice keeper.
Three wins in 6 days has settled things down for Emery but anything less than a win at OT then its all turning against him.

Post Reply