Today feels like the beginning of the end.

[USMartin]

Still the beggining of the end ? fickle 'fans'

Today No Bender No Denilson No Arshavin No Flappy.

We did have Eboue. Denilson came on. Kos kept a clean sheet. Song played a full 90, Clichy as well. Every one of these players has been hammered on this forum at one stage or another this season, by the usual experts to the point where people have said they should go. And what do you know, we play well today and this is a good eleven.

A joke.

God forbid we criticise the players who are living a lavish life at our expense. Don't mind nasri, fabregas etc. earning their wage but it pisses me off that denilson and bentdner are taking nearly 5m off us, with nothing to show for it and they are shit.

But the Board doing that to you is just fine eh?

[Iceman29]

But the Board doing that to you is just fine eh?

Yup, they are doing a fine job and deserve to be adequately remunerated for their continued good work

[USMartin]

But the Board doing that to you is just fine eh?

Yup, they are doing a fine job and deserve to be adequately remunerated for their continued good work

I don't disagree with that too much at all.

However, cashing in to what they have cashed in thus far and appear about to is far far more than adequate remuneration.

Or are you one of those who believes the rich have the right to abuse the middle class for their own gain whenever they can?

[Iceman29]

But the Board doing that to you is just fine eh?

Yup, they are doing a fine job and deserve to be adequately remunerated for their continued good work

I don't disagree with that too much at all.

However, cashing in to what they have cashed in thus far and appear about to is far far more than adequate remuneration.

Or are you one of those who believes the rich have the right to abuse the middle class for their own gain whenever they can?

What exactly have they cashed in on so far?

[USMartin]

But the Board doing that to you is just fine eh?

Yup, they are doing a fine job and deserve to be adequately remunerated for their continued good work

I don't disagree with that too much at all.

However, cashing in to what they have cashed in thus far and appear about to is far far more than adequate remuneration.

Or are you one of those who believes the rich have the right to abuse the middle class for their own gain whenever they can?

What exactly have they cashed in on so far?

Well Dan Fiszman has made roughly 30 million pounds and could make another 60-90 million, Lady Nina who was on the Board throughout this period hopes to make 100 million, the Carr Family made about 6 million, Peter Hill-Wood even has made a million or two.

Again nothing worng with that perse - except these people are all already millionaires and have simply opted to invest less in the football team to maintain higher p[rofits to spur the share 0oprice upward. They are not just normal folks getting lucky. They are rich people being greedty and seeking to enrich themselves further. Would investing a bit more more and profiting a bit less while we won a bit more be so bad for them?

[augie]

But the Board doing that to you is just fine eh?

Yup, they are doing a fine job and deserve to be adequately remunerated for their continued good work

I don't disagree with that too much at all.

However, cashing in to what they have cashed in thus far and appear about to is far far more than adequate remuneration.

Or are you one of those who believes the rich have the right to abuse the middle class for their own gain whenever they can?

What exactly have they cashed in on so far?

You see you can have a well argued debate on here with anyone but making a statement or asking a question like that shows a total lack of knowledge of the situation and only re-inforces the belief of usmartin when he says that there are too many fans who havent a clue about anything except the 90 minutes on a matchday This is an opinion that I totally share and even though I wont point out where exactly these freeloaders have cashed in (usmartin has already done that) I do despair at how naive or shallow some fans are at times

[flash gunner]

Still the beggining of the end ? fickle 'fans'

Today No Bender No Denilson No Arshavin No Flappy.

We did have Eboue. Denilson came on. Kos kept a clean sheet. Song played a full 90, Clichy as well. Every one of these players has been hammered on this forum at one stage or another this season, by the usual experts to the point where people have said they should go. And what do you know, we play well today and this is a good eleven.

A joke.

God forbid we criticise the players who are living a lavish life at our expense. Don't mind nasri, fabregas etc. earning their wage but it pisses me off that denilson and bentdner are taking nearly 5m off us, with nothing to show for it and they are shit.

But the Board doing that to you is just fine eh?

What has the above quotes got to do with the board Martin?

Youre just a Wenger apologist

[USMartin]

Today No Bender No Denilson No Arshavin No Flappy.

We did have Eboue. Denilson came on. Kos kept a clean sheet. Song played a full 90, Clichy as well. Every one of these players has been hammered on this forum at one stage or another this season, by the usual experts to the point where people have said they should go. And what do you know, we play well today and this is a good eleven.

A joke.

God forbid we criticise the players who are living a lavish life at our expense. Don't mind nasri, fabregas etc. earning their wage but it pisses me off that denilson and bentdner are taking nearly 5m off us, with nothing to show for it and they are shit.

But the Board doing that to you is just fine eh?

What has the above quotes got to do with the board Martin?

Youre just a Wenger apologist

Not at all. I just don't think it's a coincidence that the shift in spending policies and the rise in the share price that has resulted from that shift and the fact that Dan Fiszman and Lady Bracewell-Smith(who no doubt supported the re-development of Highbury or at the very least the cost-cutting policies that followed) may each make in excess of 100 million pounds when neither of them ever paid more than 2K a share .

So since the manager does not figure to make all that money I will ask again is it okay for the Board to screw supporters in the manner some suggest the manager is?

[Iceman29]

But the Board doing that to you is just fine eh?

Yup, they are doing a fine job and deserve to be adequately remunerated for their continued good work

I don't disagree with that too much at all.

However, cashing in to what they have cashed in thus far and appear about to is far far more than adequate remuneration.

Or are you one of those who believes the rich have the right to abuse the middle class for their own gain whenever they can?

What exactly have they cashed in on so far?

You see you can have a well argued debate on here with anyone but making a statement or asking a question like that shows a total lack of knowledge of the situation and only re-inforces the belief of usmartin when he says that there are too many fans who havent a clue about anything except the 90 minutes on a matchday This is an opinion that I totally share and even though I wont point out where exactly these freeloaders have cashed in (usmartin has already done that) I do despair at how naive or shallow some fans are at times

You can despair all you like but claiming that people have a lack of knowledge because they hold a certain view point is totally incorrect. I might know more than you think and all I was trying to do was undertake a knowledgeable debate which you have totally undermined by your ridiculous and one sided view. You have no idea how much I know or do not know about AFC and therefore you should restrict your comments about others.

[Arsenal Till I Die]

Today No Bender No Denilson No Arshavin No Flappy.

We did have Eboue. Denilson came on. Kos kept a clean sheet. Song played a full 90, Clichy as well. Every one of these players has been hammered on this forum at one stage or another this season, by the usual experts to the point where people have said they should go. And what do you know, we play well today and this is a good eleven.

A joke.

God forbid we criticise the players who are living a lavish life at our expense. Don't mind nasri, fabregas etc. earning their wage but it pisses me off that denilson and bentdner are taking nearly 5m off us, with nothing to show for it and they are shit.

But the Board doing that to you is just fine eh?

What has the above quotes got to do with the board Martin?

Youre just a Wenger apologist

With great mental strength :P

[Arsenal 1991]

Kyle Bartley has been looking very good at Sheff United
(I'm not actually just saying that as a wind up I like everyone else would have just signed Mertesacker)
I agree on RVP
but lets all just keep pour fingers crossed

the team we played v Wigan is class
even Kos is looking stronger every game, esp with Djourou who is a good complement to him
if we can keep most of them fit we have a genuine chance

every other top5 team has a far more difficult 2nd half to the season than us

guess you weren't around last season then.

[USMartin]

Oh and Flash what the Board has to do with those comments is they are making money off us surely as they benefit from increased profits stemming from increased ticket prices and the decreased investment in the football team resulting in us having a number of overpaid underachieving players in our squad.

But the Board are or will be the biggest benficiaries of all as they cash in by selling out. So if Nik Bendtner is taking money out of your pocket then the Board is doing it exponentially in comparison. Anyone can see that.

[QuartzGooner]

I cannot.

Said it once say it again, if a shareholder wants to sell his shares then so what?

If an American or Uzbek billionaire wants to pay thousands per share then that is their business.

If it can be totally proved that the board have blocked Wenger spending money at a time when we can all see the squad needs strengthening, then I will change my opinion on the board.

[USMartin]

I cannot.

Said it once say it again, if a shareholder wants to sell his shares then so what?

If an American or Uzbek billionaire wants to pay thousands per share then that is their business.

If it can be totally proved that the board have blocked Wenger spending money at a time when we can all see the squad needs strengthening, then I will change my opinion on the board.

It's sad that you hide behind the lack of 100% proof to protect a belief that is not 100% proven justified at this point. You will just excuse that proof against them as coming too late I suspect, and I can't help but think that is why you don't want to push this because that makes the proof coming too late that much more likely. But again why do you need 100% proof they are acting improperly without wanting let alone needing 100% proof they are acting properly?

But more curious maybe is how you do not as you have said in the past trust outside ownership candidates because they are as you have labelled them "outsiders" but have no complaint about the "insiders" exposing the club to them to enrich themselves. Should your fear of ouside ownership not justify questioning the behavior of the current ownership then?

Not having a go - just genuinely curious as to how you would explain the answer to either question.

[QuartzGooner]

@USMartin

The accounts look healthy enough to me.
So I blame Wenger for not spending our cash.

If you can present proof the board have stopped Wenger spending on players I will be fascinated.