Are You happy with Transfer Dealings?

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kiwomya
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Post by kiwomya »

Red Gunner wrote:
We have to admit to ourselves that we are not one of the top tier clubs anymore. A lot players who aren't good enough for top tier clubs' first teams are good enough for us. And Chelsea are a club who can afford to have Torres, Drogba, Anelka and Lukaku as their striking options. Not forgetting Sturridge and Kalou too. All of these are good enough for our squad, and half of them for our first team.

And on Benayoun in particular. He was a squad player in Chelsea, and that's what I presume he will be with us. He is not really a reject so no problem. But this does show what Chelsea think of us. They clearly think we are no challenge so they don't care about strengthening our squad.
This. All day long.

I can't take people seriously who who arrogantly dismiss Benayoun before even kicking a ball for us. People taking negativity to a new level.

Benayoun is the Israeli captain and wants more first team chances. We needed a creative midfielder within our wage budget - we got exactly that.

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piresistible wrote:
Babatunde wrote:
rigsby wrote:He couldn't make the bench as he was out with an injury.

And so what if he put in a transfer request? Heinze did and Fergie forced him to stay and sold him to another club. Modric made public his desire to leave and is being forced to stay so they don't sell him. I see no bloody difference
If you honestly telling me that you cannot see the difference between a big club like Chelsea who have won lots of things, loaning out a player to a smaller non-threatening Arsenal....

And a smaller club like Liverpool losing a first team plaer for a big enough fee to a bigger club, then there is no more to discuss.
read this from me mate wrighty7:

Double Standard Mugs
Some people out there make me laugh harder than when I'm watching Harry Redknapp having a twitching fit when S*urs are losing.

Many said Arsene Wenger needed to add to the squad and 'spend some fucking money' or Arsenal would free fall into the Orpington and Bromley Division 5 Sunday league in no time.

Well, Wenger has finally dusted the cobwebs from the Arsenal chequebook and brought in several dead-line deals and all the sudden he has panic-bought!

It does my head in more than Marmite, and I hate Marmite, so gawd knows how Arsene Wenger feels.

Look, don't get me wrong, it would have been better if Wenger had had a settled squad a few weeks ago but it didn't happen.

However, he was rectified that now with some very good signings so how this is panic-buying I will never know.

If that 'diamond geezer' Harry Redknapp had done the same deals as Wenger the media would be absolutely creaming their knickers.

Sky Sports News would be going mental.

Imagine the breaking news banner at the bottom of the TV screen. It would have gone into meltdown faster than Usain Bolt having a sprint on the sun.

Harry would be proclaimed as a genius or the messiah and we should bow before him or his twitch would strike us down in fury.

Arsene still gets stick and he has done exactly what people wanted him to do!

How can he win?

These players that Wenger has brought in are of high quality and still he receives grief.

Its double standards of the highest order if you ask me.
Well I wasn't! so fuck off wrighty!!

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Post by piresistible »

kiwomya wrote:
Red Gunner wrote:
We have to admit to ourselves that we are not one of the top tier clubs anymore. A lot players who aren't good enough for top tier clubs' first teams are good enough for us. And Chelsea are a club who can afford to have Torres, Drogba, Anelka and Lukaku as their striking options. Not forgetting Sturridge and Kalou too. All of these are good enough for our squad, and half of them for our first team.

And on Benayoun in particular. He was a squad player in Chelsea, and that's what I presume he will be with us. He is not really a reject so no problem. But this does show what Chelsea think of us. They clearly think we are no challenge so they don't care about strengthening our squad.
This. All day long.

I can't take people seriously who who arrogantly dismiss Benayoun before even kicking a ball for us. People taking negativity to a new level.

Benayoun is the Israeli captain and wants more first team chances. We needed a creative midfielder within our wage budget - we got exactly that.
As Tim from 7amkickoff rightly points out:

And then there’s Arteta and Benayoun, no two players embodied yesterday’s serenity prayer more than those two. I’m happy that both players will play for Arsenal next season. Benayoun is a consummate professional who will play his heart out for Arsenal. He is a workhorse of a player and isn’t that exactly the kind of player so many people have asked for? Arteta, meanwhile, played 29 League matches for Everton last season and played in any position that David Moyes asked him to play. According to John Cross, Arteta even took a pay cut to come to Arsenal. What does that tell you about the ambitions of this player? To me, this is a great signing of a truly talented, hungry, and experienced player who will fit right in to the Arsenal system.

And for those people who demanded a superstar midfield signing and were disappointed by Arsenal’s dealings, I just have one thing to say: Arsenal’s superstar midfielder is Jack Wilshere, we don’t need another. What Arsenal needed is a player of Arteta’s caliber to come in and provide competition in the midfield and a player of Benayoun’s work rate to come off the bench and along with Theo Walcott terrify tired legs.

This competition alone is a breath of fresh air, the ability for Wenger to change formations is a breath of fresh air, and equally important the clearing out of players like Samir Nasri is a massive breath of fresh air. I don’t know why Arsene wanted to hold on to Nasri so badly. He’s a player who so clearly does not respect anything about Arsenal. An odious little man who has decided to make all of his grievances with Arsenal public so that he can shift the focus away from the fact that he played Man U, Arsenal, Man City, and PSG against each other in order to win the weekly salary jackpot. I can’t say this any clearer; fuck you Samir Nasri.

And finally, a word about the constant stream of apoplectic negativity over all of Arsenal’s Summer dealings. It’s actually hard to take. Almost as difficult as the constant stream of people telling, no demanding, that I and others support Arsenal in the manner that they have decided is the only way to be a “true supporter.â€

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Post by gunner_ace »

+1

I am genuinely excited about the rest of the season now. We've shored up the midfield and have bought creative players which weve desperatly been missing.

We have a new stonking great CB who I am absolutly creaming myself to see playing alongside TV5.

AOC looks the business after seeing him for England last night.

And if Park can hit the target then he's moved up the rankings from Chamackh.

I remember reading the transer rumours thread in June and several people quite clearly wrote the old *word censored* wenger wont sign anyone so dont get your hopes up and your a mug if you think he will.

Well fuck me he confounded us all and signed 9 players or something. Yes their not world class but they are close enough for our needs, and will surely improve.

our future engine room in jack and ramsey will learn loads from arteta.

we might learn to defend set pieces from merta.

and hopefully with all these experienced international players (mostly) we might even avoid our mid order batting style collape come feb.

I think every signing had its purpose and they will all fit in well with our plans / aspirations. yes the timings of the signings wern't great, but their done now, and I have great hope for the rest of this season.

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goonersid wrote:
piresistible wrote:
Babatunde wrote:
rigsby wrote:He couldn't make the bench as he was out with an injury.

And so what if he put in a transfer request? Heinze did and Fergie forced him to stay and sold him to another club. Modric made public his desire to leave and is being forced to stay so they don't sell him. I see no bloody difference
If you honestly telling me that you cannot see the difference between a big club like Chelsea who have won lots of things, loaning out a player to a smaller non-threatening Arsenal....

And a smaller club like Liverpool losing a first team plaer for a big enough fee to a bigger club, then there is no more to discuss.
read this from me mate wrighty7:

Double Standard Mugs
Some people out there make me laugh harder than when I'm watching Harry Redknapp having a twitching fit when S*urs are losing.

Many said Arsene Wenger needed to add to the squad and 'spend some fucking money' or Arsenal would free fall into the Orpington and Bromley Division 5 Sunday league in no time.

Well, Wenger has finally dusted the cobwebs from the Arsenal chequebook and brought in several dead-line deals and all the sudden he has panic-bought!

It does my head in more than Marmite, and I hate Marmite, so gawd knows how Arsene Wenger feels.

Look, don't get me wrong, it would have been better if Wenger had had a settled squad a few weeks ago but it didn't happen.

However, he was rectified that now with some very good signings so how this is panic-buying I will never know.

If that 'diamond geezer' Harry Redknapp had done the same deals as Wenger the media would be absolutely creaming their knickers.

Sky Sports News would be going mental.

Imagine the breaking news banner at the bottom of the TV screen. It would have gone into meltdown faster than Usain Bolt having a sprint on the sun.

Harry would be proclaimed as a genius or the messiah and we should bow before him or his twitch would strike us down in fury.

Arsene still gets stick and he has done exactly what people wanted him to do!

How can he win?

These players that Wenger has brought in are of high quality and still he receives grief.

Its double standards of the highest order if you ask me.
Well I wasn't! so fuck off wrighty!!
:lol: :lol:

Word up Sid :high5:

im not sure what word up means but thought it went well here :oops:

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flash gunner wrote:
goonersid wrote:
piresistible wrote:
Babatunde wrote:
rigsby wrote:He couldn't make the bench as he was out with an injury.

And so what if he put in a transfer request? Heinze did and Fergie forced him to stay and sold him to another club. Modric made public his desire to leave and is being forced to stay so they don't sell him. I see no bloody difference
If you honestly telling me that you cannot see the difference between a big club like Chelsea who have won lots of things, loaning out a player to a smaller non-threatening Arsenal....

And a smaller club like Liverpool losing a first team plaer for a big enough fee to a bigger club, then there is no more to discuss.
read this from me mate wrighty7:

Double Standard Mugs
Some people out there make me laugh harder than when I'm watching Harry Redknapp having a twitching fit when S*urs are losing.

Many said Arsene Wenger needed to add to the squad and 'spend some fucking money' or Arsenal would free fall into the Orpington and Bromley Division 5 Sunday league in no time.

Well, Wenger has finally dusted the cobwebs from the Arsenal chequebook and brought in several dead-line deals and all the sudden he has panic-bought!

It does my head in more than Marmite, and I hate Marmite, so gawd knows how Arsene Wenger feels.

Look, don't get me wrong, it would have been better if Wenger had had a settled squad a few weeks ago but it didn't happen.

However, he was rectified that now with some very good signings so how this is panic-buying I will never know.

If that 'diamond geezer' Harry Redknapp had done the same deals as Wenger the media would be absolutely creaming their knickers.

Sky Sports News would be going mental.

Imagine the breaking news banner at the bottom of the TV screen. It would have gone into meltdown faster than Usain Bolt having a sprint on the sun.

Harry would be proclaimed as a genius or the messiah and we should bow before him or his twitch would strike us down in fury.

Arsene still gets stick and he has done exactly what people wanted him to do!

How can he win?

These players that Wenger has brought in are of high quality and still he receives grief.

Its double standards of the highest order if you ask me.
Well I wasn't! so fuck off wrighty!!
:lol: :lol:

Word up Sid :high5:

im not sure what word up means but thought it went well here :oops:
Just spoken to the 1980's Flash, and they want their cool phrase back.

:wink:
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gunner_ace wrote:+1

I am genuinely excited about the rest of the season now. We've shored up the midfield and have bought creative players which weve desperatly been missing.

We have a new stonking great CB who I am absolutly creaming myself to see playing alongside TV5.

AOC looks the business after seeing him for England last night.

And if Park can hit the target then he's moved up the rankings from Chamackh.

I remember reading the transer rumours thread in June and several people quite clearly wrote the old c**t wenger wont sign anyone so dont get your hopes up and your a mug if you think he will.

Well fuck me he confounded us all and signed 9 players or something. Yes their not world class but they are close enough for our needs, and will surely improve. our future engine room in jack and ramsey will learn loads from arteta.

we might learn to defend set pieces from merta.

and hopefully with all these experienced international players (mostly) we might even avoid our mid order batting style collape come feb.

I think every signing had its purpose and they will all fit in well with our plans / aspirations. yes the timings of the signings wern't great, but their done now, and I have great hope for the rest of this season.
So we don't need world class players?
What makes you think that an injury prone 31 year old and 29 year old are going to improve?
What are our plans and aspirations? 4th place?
Wenger made around 70-80 million on tranfers and spent around half of it, in a last minute supermarket sweep, down the basics aisle.

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marcengels wrote:
flash gunner wrote:
goonersid wrote:
piresistible wrote:
Babatunde wrote: If you honestly telling me that you cannot see the difference between a big club like Chelsea who have won lots of things, loaning out a player to a smaller non-threatening Arsenal....

And a smaller club like Liverpool losing a first team plaer for a big enough fee to a bigger club, then there is no more to discuss.
read this from me mate wrighty7:

Double Standard Mugs
Some people out there make me laugh harder than when I'm watching Harry Redknapp having a twitching fit when S*urs are losing.

Many said Arsene Wenger needed to add to the squad and 'spend some fucking money' or Arsenal would free fall into the Orpington and Bromley Division 5 Sunday league in no time.

Well, Wenger has finally dusted the cobwebs from the Arsenal chequebook and brought in several dead-line deals and all the sudden he has panic-bought!

It does my head in more than Marmite, and I hate Marmite, so gawd knows how Arsene Wenger feels.

Look, don't get me wrong, it would have been better if Wenger had had a settled squad a few weeks ago but it didn't happen.

However, he was rectified that now with some very good signings so how this is panic-buying I will never know.

If that 'diamond geezer' Harry Redknapp had done the same deals as Wenger the media would be absolutely creaming their knickers.

Sky Sports News would be going mental.

Imagine the breaking news banner at the bottom of the TV screen. It would have gone into meltdown faster than Usain Bolt having a sprint on the sun.

Harry would be proclaimed as a genius or the messiah and we should bow before him or his twitch would strike us down in fury.

Arsene still gets stick and he has done exactly what people wanted him to do!

How can he win?

These players that Wenger has brought in are of high quality and still he receives grief.

Its double standards of the highest order if you ask me.
Well I wasn't! so fuck off wrighty!!
:lol: :lol:

Word up Sid :high5:

im not sure what word up means but thought it went well here :oops:
Just spoken to the 1980's Flash, and they want their cool phrase back.

:wink:
Hey home', I can dig it. Know ain't gonna lay no mo' big rap up on you, man!


:oops: :oops: :oops: :lol:

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gunner_ace wrote:AOC looks the business after seeing him for England last night.
Why aren't people content with writing full names? Took me five minutes to figure out who "AOC" is :lol:

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Red Gunner wrote:
gunner_ace wrote:AOC looks the business after seeing him for England last night.
Why aren't people content with writing full names? Took me five minutes to figure out who "AOC" is :lol:
because I cant be bothered to write alex-olexlade-chambermaid. oh I just did.

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goonersid wrote:
gunner_ace wrote:+1

I am genuinely excited about the rest of the season now. We've shored up the midfield and have bought creative players which weve desperatly been missing.

We have a new stonking great CB who I am absolutly creaming myself to see playing alongside TV5.

AOC looks the business after seeing him for England last night.

And if Park can hit the target then he's moved up the rankings from Chamackh.

I remember reading the transer rumours thread in June and several people quite clearly wrote the old c**t wenger wont sign anyone so dont get your hopes up and your a mug if you think he will.

Well fuck me he confounded us all and signed 9 players or something. Yes their not world class but they are close enough for our needs, and will surely improve. our future engine room in jack and ramsey will learn loads from arteta.

we might learn to defend set pieces from merta.

and hopefully with all these experienced international players (mostly) we might even avoid our mid order batting style collape come feb.

I think every signing had its purpose and they will all fit in well with our plans / aspirations. yes the timings of the signings wern't great, but their done now, and I have great hope for the rest of this season.
So we don't need world class players?
What makes you think that an injury prone 31 year old and 29 year old are going to improve?
What are our plans and aspirations? 4th place?
Wenger made around 70-80 million on tranfers and spent around half of it, in a last minute supermarket sweep, down the basics aisle.
We do need world class players, but we have always made world class players and always and will do that under wenger. This will never change.

Didnt I read arteta played 29 games last year season for everton. I think Yossi was really unlucky with 1 bad injury last year. they are still both undoubted quality.

You just said 4th place not me.

well at least he spent half of it. I refer you back to the doom mongers comments who said he wouldnt spend a penny, and we were all going to the footballing version of eternal damnation.

Look im not trying to be some sort of blinkered rose tinter or anything, and trying to be an apologist for all the wrong wenger has done (which their been plenty), but all im saying is the club hit rock bottom last sunday with the 8-2 defeat and the season could have had a really grim outlook for all concerned after that if we hadn't made any signings.

But he did, and we must surely be on the upwards curve now.

So even though they were done in the last 48 hours, the fact remains we brought in 5 new players which in my opinion dramatically changes the complextion of the team. For fucks sake they havent even played a game together yet and some of you lot are whining like bitches that its still all doom and gloom.

If they all turn out to be wrong uns then lets lynch em in january, but for now Just let this new team get on with it, and lets support them as we go.

I for one am looking forward to watching The Arsenal again for the first time in bloody ages. (well since feburary anyway)

:barscarf:

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gunner_ace wrote:
goonersid wrote:
gunner_ace wrote:+1

I am genuinely excited about the rest of the season now. We've shored up the midfield and have bought creative players which weve desperatly been missing.

We have a new stonking great CB who I am absolutly creaming myself to see playing alongside TV5.

AOC looks the business after seeing him for England last night.

And if Park can hit the target then he's moved up the rankings from Chamackh.

I remember reading the transer rumours thread in June and several people quite clearly wrote the old c**t wenger wont sign anyone so dont get your hopes up and your a mug if you think he will.

Well fuck me he confounded us all and signed 9 players or something. Yes their not world class but they are close enough for our needs, and will surely improve. our future engine room in jack and ramsey will learn loads from arteta.

we might learn to defend set pieces from merta.

and hopefully with all these experienced international players (mostly) we might even avoid our mid order batting style collape come feb.

I think every signing had its purpose and they will all fit in well with our plans / aspirations. yes the timings of the signings wern't great, but their done now, and I have great hope for the rest of this season.
So we don't need world class players?
What makes you think that an injury prone 31 year old and 29 year old are going to improve?
What are our plans and aspirations? 4th place?
Wenger made around 70-80 million on tranfers and spent around half of it, in a last minute supermarket sweep, down the basics aisle.
We do need world class players, but we have always made world class players and always and will do that under wenger. This will never change.

Didnt I read arteta played 29 games last year season for everton. I think Yossi was really unlucky with 1 bad injury last year. they are still both undoubted quality.

You just said 4th place not me.

well at least he spent half of it. I refer you back to the doom mongers comments who said he wouldnt spend a penny, and we were all going to the footballing version of eternal damnation.

Look im not trying to be some sort of blinkered rose tinter or anything, and trying to be an apologist for all the wrong wenger has done (which their been plenty), but all im saying is the club hit rock bottom last sunday with the 8-2 defeat and the season could have had a really grim outlook for all concerned after that if we hadn't made any signings.

But he did, and we must surely be on the upwards curve now.

So even though they were done in the last 48 hours, the fact remains we brought in 5 new players which in my opinion dramatically changes the complextion of the team. For fucks sake they havent even played a game together yet and some of you lot are whining like bitches that its still all doom and gloom.

If they all turn out to be wrong uns then lets lynch em in january, but for now Just let this new team get on with it, and lets support them as we go.

I for one am looking forward to watching The Arsenal again for the first time in bloody ages. (well since feburary anyway)

:barscarf:
Fair enough.

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goonersid wrote:
gunner_ace wrote:
goonersid wrote:
gunner_ace wrote:+1

I am genuinely excited about the rest of the season now. We've shored up the midfield and have bought creative players which weve desperatly been missing.

We have a new stonking great CB who I am absolutly creaming myself to see playing alongside TV5.

AOC looks the business after seeing him for England last night.

And if Park can hit the target then he's moved up the rankings from Chamackh.

I remember reading the transer rumours thread in June and several people quite clearly wrote the old c**t wenger wont sign anyone so dont get your hopes up and your a mug if you think he will.

Well fuck me he confounded us all and signed 9 players or something. Yes their not world class but they are close enough for our needs, and will surely improve. our future engine room in jack and ramsey will learn loads from arteta.

we might learn to defend set pieces from merta.

and hopefully with all these experienced international players (mostly) we might even avoid our mid order batting style collape come feb.

I think every signing had its purpose and they will all fit in well with our plans / aspirations. yes the timings of the signings wern't great, but their done now, and I have great hope for the rest of this season.
So we don't need world class players?
What makes you think that an injury prone 31 year old and 29 year old are going to improve?
What are our plans and aspirations? 4th place?
Wenger made around 70-80 million on tranfers and spent around half of it, in a last minute supermarket sweep, down the basics aisle.
We do need world class players, but we have always made world class players and always and will do that under wenger. This will never change.

Didnt I read arteta played 29 games last year season for everton. I think Yossi was really unlucky with 1 bad injury last year. they are still both undoubted quality.

You just said 4th place not me.

well at least he spent half of it. I refer you back to the doom mongers comments who said he wouldnt spend a penny, and we were all going to the footballing version of eternal damnation.

Look im not trying to be some sort of blinkered rose tinter or anything, and trying to be an apologist for all the wrong wenger has done (which their been plenty), but all im saying is the club hit rock bottom last sunday with the 8-2 defeat and the season could have had a really grim outlook for all concerned after that if we hadn't made any signings.

But he did, and we must surely be on the upwards curve now.

So even though they were done in the last 48 hours, the fact remains we brought in 5 new players which in my opinion dramatically changes the complextion of the team. For fucks sake they havent even played a game together yet and some of you lot are whining like bitches that its still all doom and gloom.

If they all turn out to be wrong uns then lets lynch em in january, but for now Just let this new team get on with it, and lets support them as we go.

I for one am looking forward to watching The Arsenal again for the first time in bloody ages. (well since feburary anyway)

:barscarf:
Fair enough.
cheers. 8)

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To be fair Sid, there aren't that many world class players available. Who is out there that we could have bought? Don't get me wrong I know we could have gone and bid £70m for Benzema but this isn't football manager, be realistic.

And even if Real Madrid did accept, there's no saying Benzema would have come to Arsenal.

Also, various sources said we did bid big for Hazard but Lille are unwilling to sell at the moment. They suggest Arsenal will be back for him in January, in which case it makes sense not to just blow the whole budget on someone else just for the sake of it.

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worthing_gooner wrote:To be fair Sid, there aren't that many world class players available. Who is out there that we could have bought? Don't get me wrong I know we could have gone and bid £70m for Benzema but this isn't football manager, be realistic.

And even if Real Madrid did accept, there's no saying Benzema would have come to Arsenal.

Also, various sources said we did bid big for Hazard but Lille are unwilling to sell at the moment. They suggest Arsenal will be back for him in January, in which case it makes sense not to just blow the whole budget on someone else just for the sake of it.
The feeling is though that we don't do enough...half-hearted if you like.

Borne out by this transfer window.

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