Mikel Arteta, success or failure? - Merged thread.

[SteveO 35]

This fuckwit took us down to 15th and didn't get sacked

He's spent 75m this window, with 20 odd back from Pillock and now likely to blow 30m+ on the Norwegian lightweight, some more on a keeper and no doubt a fat wad on Coutinho

There's no way the Kroenke's are letting him go unless relegation is on the cards

[Natural Born Gooner]

A stop gap nothing player for us, who taking us to the Championship! On a par with Remi Garde!

Is Stewart Houston still around? I'd have him even now over this useless fucking cunt!

[SteveO 35]

I've tried to get over the injustice that burns inside ever since this helmet got the job.

I've found the only cure is gallows humour

Its still unthinkable that this once proud club sits 19th out of 20 in the league of owner investment, and is managed by a prick who still has the cradle marks on his arse and free to spunk what little dosh is made available

Sometimes you get what you deserve in life and my only hope is that Kroenke pays for this decade of underachievement and that this incompetent, grade A cock serves a purpose by taking us down and allowing the whole deck of cards to come tumbling down and start again with a new owner

Probably unlikely- more likely is we become another of his also ran franchises and spend the rest of his reign being modern day Everton

[begeegs]

I've tried to get over the injustice that burns inside ever since this helmet got the job.

I've found the only cure is gallows humour

Its still unthinkable that this once proud club sits 19th out of 20 in the league of owner investment, and is managed by a prick who still has the cradle marks on his arse and free to spunk what little dosh is made available

Sometimes you get what you deserve in life and my only hope is that Kroenke pays for this decade of underachievement and that this incompetent, grade A cock serves a purpose by taking us down and allowing the whole deck of cards to come tumbling down and start again with a new owner

Probably unlikely- more likely is we become another of his also ran franchises and spend the rest of his reign being modern day Everton

I think that Arteta has it in him to get this side relegated. I really do. He is that bad.

I also think that Kroenke is dumb enough not to pull the trigger before it is far too late.

I know that it is one game, but the problems have been around for over a season now and nothing has been done. It seems that his second half of the season trophy was good enough for another year.

It's going to be a long dull affair

[Redarmy]

I've tried to get over the injustice that burns inside ever since this helmet got the job.

I've found the only cure is gallows humour

Its still unthinkable that this once proud club sits 19th out of 20 in the league of owner investment, and is managed by a prick who still has the cradle marks on his arse and free to spunk what little dosh is made available

Sometimes you get what you deserve in life and my only hope is that Kroenke pays for this decade of underachievement and that this incompetent, grade A cock serves a purpose by taking us down and allowing the whole deck of cards to come tumbling down and start again with a new owner

Probably unlikely- more likely is we become another of his also ran franchises and spend the rest of his reign being modern day Everton

I think that Arteta has it in him to get this side relegated. I really do. He is that bad.

I also think that Kroenke is dumb enough not to pull the trigger before it is far too late.

I know that it is one game, but the problems have been around for over a season now and nothing has been done. It seems that his second half of the season trophy was good enough for another year.

It's going to be a long dull affair

Looking at it from the outside seems to be real mess, the transfer dealings and extension of xaha contract are making us worse if anything
priorities not being addressed, then you have the issue with Auba and Laca, what the fuck happened there
Bellerin urgently seeking out but no one will have him...
Arteta is not up to the job of managing a club our size as a rookie manager, blame the incompetent mugs who appointed him, and are still there on the gravy train

[SteveO 35]

I've tried to get over the injustice that burns inside ever since this helmet got the job.

I've found the only cure is gallows humour

Its still unthinkable that this once proud club sits 19th out of 20 in the league of owner investment, and is managed by a prick who still has the cradle marks on his arse and free to spunk what little dosh is made available

Sometimes you get what you deserve in life and my only hope is that Kroenke pays for this decade of underachievement and that this incompetent, grade A cock serves a purpose by taking us down and allowing the whole deck of cards to come tumbling down and start again with a new owner

Probably unlikely- more likely is we become another of his also ran franchises and spend the rest of his reign being modern day Everton

I think that Arteta has it in him to get this side relegated. I really do. He is that bad.

I also think that Kroenke is dumb enough not to pull the trigger before it is far too late.

I know that it is one game, but the problems have been around for over a season now and nothing has been done. It seems that his second half of the season trophy was good enough for another year.

It's going to be a long dull affair

My hope - and its one DB10 often mentions - is that there are enough REALLY shit teams to compensate our shit team. I think that number is dwindling but I think Norwich are in for a good few whippings, Palace have had it coming to them, Newcastle and Southampton (especially minus Ings and Vestegaard) are both complete dog shit, Burnley definitely need to spend and I can't see Watford doing a lot. Other than that (and I include the likes of Brighton, Villa and Leeds), I think all the other teams are capable of finishing above us.

Arteta really is as bad as it gets, especially for a club with a major rebuild required

Whilst chat continues about Odegaard and Coutinho, I wonder if its occurred to him that we have one fit/available/willing to play striker in Balogun (perhaps Martinelli if we really think he is CF material). How on earth this situation with Auba and Lacazette has been allowed to get to this stage once the season has started is unbelievable. I don't believe players leave bad owners, they leave bad managers. Having said that we all know Kroenke is an utter c.unt who has damaged the club on a scale never seen before. I just think Wenger and Emery would have fared better than this clown would in the circumstances and certainly wouldn't have us as a bottom half side, which is undoubtedly where we are headed this season

[Redarmy]

Arteta has doubled down on his training philosophy this season, with players reporting intense sessions focused on playing the ball out from the back. Some observers are said to feel Arteta’s frequent interventions & very technical approach make sessions hard to follow. [Mail] https://t.co/FIb4ZzJS4A

Not surprised to hear this , the players look strangled to me , not allowed to express any freedom of thought and movement.

I've often wondered if they are being over coached. Looks a real possibility.

He is obsessed with playing out from the back.....thats ok if you have the players to do it

Yep and that's exactly why we bought Ben White. Nothing to do with his defensive ability, just the fact that he can bring the ball out and pass it.

agreed looks comfortable on the ball but at this early stage not sure about ariel ability or getting physically buffeted

[Redarmy]

Dont think everyone was against arteta at the start, as you can see from the 27% rating from the votes cast at the time

Some hoping he was the new George Graham (who by the way was a true Arsenal man) that never quite happened

Hes obviously studied his role, and tried to emulate Pep with the media approach....says all the right things.....

Lets see how he gets through this present crisis

[Arsenal Till I Die]

.@DeanJonesSoccer: “There’s some friction right now between Arteta & Aubameyang. Aubameyang’s not going to be leaving in this transfer window, there’s no club that would buy him on the contract he’s on. Lacazette, they’ve tried to find a buyer this window that’s not there.” #afc

[OneBardGooner]

Dont think everyone was against arteta at the start, as you can see from the 27% rating from the votes cast at the time

Some hoping he was the new George Graham (who by the way was a true Arsenal man) that never quite happened

Hes obviously studied his role, and tried to emulate Pep with the media approach....says all the right things.....

Lets see how he gets through this present crisis

I was unsure at the outset but hoped (perhaps beyond hope) that having been assistant to Pep that some of what he )Pep) had might have rubbed off, now I just want him GONE.

As you say RA he uses all the right terminology and sound bites to fool anyone who still has hope he can succeed - He has already Failed and there is No Way Back for him. Not when he persuades Clive to stay AND sign a new deal on even more money, he has not off-loaded the dross and the new players he has brought in are all "Gambles'...and now to pay £26 million? for a keeper like Ramsdale having sold the better of our 2 keepers for less, just demonstrates 1,000% he is Out Of His Depth and would be better suited to managing a Sunday Pub Team.

[Nos89]

I've read on a few sites that Conte is in line to replace Arteta
Obviously, I hope this does come to fruition sooner rather than later.

[augie]

I've read on a few sites that Conte is in line to replace Arteta
Obviously, I hope this does come to fruition sooner rather than later.

No chance - he would expect the club to show ambition and signing shit like ramsdale, and average vanilla odegaard, certainly will have him running for his life
I still dont think that arteta is near sacking (even though he should be past that point) - if there are any doubts from the board you dont allow him to spunk away serious money on players of the quality that I listed above. If the players lego head is signing were proven quality then you go ahead with the deals knowing that the next manager might be glad to have them, but to sign players that the next manager will be trying to get rid of for years to come, makes zero business sense

[SteveO 35]

I've read on a few sites that Conte is in line to replace Arteta
Obviously, I hope this does come to fruition sooner rather than later.

When I argued before about Emery getting us to 5th and within a point of the Champions League (not to mention a EL final), people argued that it wasn't for that reason that he got sacked but for the second season slump (the massive one that saw us drop to 7th), and also the fact that he lost the dressing room.

I don't want to relight that particular fire but if it was true that he had alienated certain players and the board saw the problems that came with that, then what the fuck are they seeing now. Auba hasn't wanted to play for this prick for a year or more, Swampy wants off, Laca now looks to have fallen out/been sidelined, Martinelli has lost all his sparkle having been treated like shit. The body language of the squad on Friday night looks defeated.

What is it about this c.unt that saves him from the chop?

[begeegs]

When I argued before about Emery getting us to 5th and within a point of the Champions League (not to mention a EL final), people argued that it wasn't for that reason that he got sacked but for the second season slump (the massive one that saw us drop to 7th), and also the fact that he lost the dressing room.

I don't want to relight that particular fire but if it was true that he had alienated certain players and the board saw the problems that came with that, then what the fuck are they seeing now. Auba hasn't wanted to play for this prick for a year or more, Swampy wants off, Laca now looks to have fallen out/been sidelined, Martinelli has lost all his sparkle having been treated like shit. The body language of the squad on Friday night looks defeated.

What is it about this c.unt that saves him from the chop?

The Kroenkes, for certain. I think that given the outlay of the summer, he will get sacked this year if performances don't improve, but I still think that it will be another dithering saga because they are absentee and I shudder to think who is going to get hired after he is jettisoned. Who is out there out of a job that would be decent appointment? Conte and Favre and erm...that's about it.

[Arsenal Till I Die]

Pablo Mari £10 million.
Gabriel £27 million.
Partey £45 million.
Runarsson £2 million.
Tavares £8 million.
Lokonga £20 million.
Ben White £50 million
Ødegaard £30 million.
Ramsdale £30 million.

Total spent: £222 million.

This man has been backed. His failures are his own.

Fuck him off sharpish.