The coup de grace in Munich

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Clash wrote:Obviously anyone who isn't insane knew we'd go out before tonight's game even started so I'm not gutted about the result ... but are the club ever going to have any intention of putting together a team that can actually win this fucking competition?

We easily have the resources, our team cost more than Bayern's team and the most expensive player on the pitch tonight was wearing a yellow shirt.

A lot of people still see the last several years as acceptable. It is even dressed up by many as some kind of overachievement :roll: The reality is that it is failure being repeated over and over again by the same man doing the same thing over and over again :banghead:
Absolutely NOT

Apparently, what is it now? 16 consecutive CL knockouts is something to be proud of!

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Didnt watch it and my only interest is to know we dont have injury problems going forward from here .

The Ox is becoming so important as he is our only man that can take a game by the scruff an win it we should use him sparingly as we approach the cup games but he must start against the red sea pedestrians !

If we beat them we are well plaaced for the VT and can concentrate on the Cup !

If we win Saturday and finish 3rd or fourth and win the Cup I have to say Il be happy with the progression but we are still and Henry a Lukic a Vierra and an Henry short of a title challenging team .
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Fuck me I'm so sick of this year after year. Fuck you Wenger.

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1989 wrote:We'll make history tonight. #Believe
#Gash

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Herd wrote:
The Ox is becoming so important as he is our only man that can take a game by the scruff an win it we should use him sparingly as we approach the cup games but he must start against the red sea pedestrians !

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Exactly,we go back to relying on a kid again,like we have with Wilshere for the last 3 years,when do the senior pro's step up and control a game against someone half decent,not shit like Norwich and Sunderland.

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In the end I was a bit meh about the game. :| Wasn't as fired up as I thought I might become.

Ox was outstanding. He terrorised them and pushed them back but of course we failed to capitalise on that spell of pressure. His direct running with the ball has really improved and I think either this summer or (more likely) next we are gonna struggle to keep him. :( :|

Mert and Kos were mostly excellent but both made huge stupid mistakes as well. Sagna was mostly gash again. Ozil likewise. Giroud showed, huffed and puffed, won most things he challenged for, but basically was wasted up there by himself. His lack of pace was really badly exposed again last night. He's a good second striker, or a reasonable option off the bench, but we will NEVER win the PL or CL with him as first choice first-striker in a 4-5-1. NEVER.

Great save for the penno from Flappy and just deserts because it was NEVER a fucking penno. :roll: :x

Robben sickens me. He is a massively talented footballer. But he is also a dirty diving low rent cheating piece of shite. I hope someone takes his ACL right the fuck off his knee and his career is ended. Harsh? Maybe. But this fucking piece of shit is so indicitave of what is wrong with modern football. How the fuck can he look himself in the mirror? :x

Fuck it. We are done with the poxy bloated shit CL for another season. Let's just pray that Arsene can now see some fucking sense and look seriously at the FA Cup and worry less about the mythical 4th place trophy. :roll:

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I still think its hard to be critical of the 11 players who took to the field last night. We played our reserve keeper, a fill in left back (who played fantastically well) and a reshuffled midfield

The criticism of the manager for failing to sign a striker is 100% justified and all of us that haven't worked a day in football pointed that out long ago when the Summer transfer window closed. The Ox got Dante on a yellow early in the game and if we'd had a striker with a turn of pace to run at the guy we would have exposed him and possibly got him sent off.....then the game would have been interesting.

My fear is that the Self Harmer will continue his wirst slitting antics of 2006 and 2009/10 by stubbornly refusing to add the one or two players needed to complete the team. When PV4 left the world screamed at him for a CDM......then we needed a CB......then we needed a GK......now we need a CF. Every year there's a position that desperately needs filling, and every time its not filled the squad that we have assembled then breaks up and the rebuilding process starts all over again. If Van Persie had been in our side last night we'd have had a chance......but why commit to paying him an extra 50k per week and signing one or two world class players, when you can sign 2 or 3 Sanogo & Campbell types, and the likes of Giroud.

Wenger must be bonused based upon financial performance of the club. I've heard too many reasonably well informed whispers on that front, and his behaviour is too inexplicable otherwise, for it not to be true

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Have to agree with Lefty, if I never get to see another Guardiola team in my life then I'll die a happy man.

Unless it's also an Arsenal team in which case I'll also be a happy man

:lol: 8)

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LDB wrote:Have to agree with Lefty, if I never get to see another Guardiola team in my life then I'll die a happy man.

Unless it's also an Arsenal team in which case I'll also be a happy man

:lol: 8)
He's a snide, arrogant *word censored* who manufactures cheating, diving, bullying teams. He's the same as Mourinho but somehow gets less bad press because he wears expensive clothes and managed Messi.

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Watched it with a degree of indifference and no expectation last night. Creditable result,but means nothing in overall scheme of things as again we did not progress. If we have serious intent then win the group in the first place, if not we just accept for the money making gig it is. Ox was great, TV had a real go (I hope he stays), fair play to Fabianski. Ozil - can't convince myself he really wants to be here - let's hope he does a Pires in his second season. Podolski can finish - is he a centre forward ? I have no idea. Giroud - trys hard enough when he stays on his feet,but one up front when you are are player like him? - needs support. Why knock it long if no one in support. we are awful at being first to any kind of second ball. They coach it to U8's ffs - support the player. Finally - Robben. Great player but what a :cussing: of a man. I am a mild,even tempered bloke but he has the kind of face,behaviour and demeanour that makes me want to punch his fucking lights out. Hey ho

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Perryashburtongroves wrote:
LDB wrote:Have to agree with Lefty, if I never get to see another Guardiola team in my life then I'll die a happy man.

Unless it's also an Arsenal team in which case I'll also be a happy man

:lol: 8)
He's a snide, arrogant *word censored* who manufactures cheating, diving, bullying teams. He's the same as Mourinho but somehow gets less bad press because he wears expensive clothes and managed Messi.
Put that tin helmet on mate! :box:

Plus he'd never come to Arsenal because he'd get found out.

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MrT wrote:I'm not seeing how people can be happy with that performance. We could barely string 3 passes together all night, none of our big names turned up. A young inexperienced kid showed them all up, what does that tell you about the lack of bottle which is ingrained in this team through the manager.

This was another men against boys situation, we were bossed at every level. Munich didn't really have to turn up.

What is the point of Giroud? The sad thing is we will be stuck with him as our main striker for at least another season while the nutty professor has complete faith in him.
I agree 100%. Bayern didn't need to put out their best effort at all. All they did was to secure that their lead holds, nothing more.

It's strange that our players seems to fade out nearly every time we play against big teams. It can't be that they suddenly forgot how to pass and score. It is our fucking game plan which doesn't change no matter who we are playing against. Bayern pressed us high all the time and we just didn't have space anywhere around the pitch and our nippy nappy tiki taka tick fuck game plan was utterly destroyed and we looked like totally clueless. Pressing us hard and high is the key to destroy our game, it really doesn't need more apart from having good enough players to do so obviously.

Ox was superb there and Poldi showed again how clinical finisher he is. During second half Poldi really tried hard and showed some cojones needed by pushing Lahm aside and scoring a goal.

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Thought we played well last night against a team clearly better than we are, i still feel like we are growing as a team / squad - we are moving forward and thats important.

It was important for us to dig in away from home against top class oppo and we did that, hopefully we can use that in the big games to come.

Thought Giroud played well last night, his hold up play is brilliant - but obviously he has limitations as the lone striker which did let us down, but you cannt deny the guy gives everything - its not down to him he is our main striking option and he deserves credit - he never huds.

Ox and Woookash both had very good games and credit to the skipper too who must be rusty to say the least and put in a performance.

The Ozil injury cannot possibly be good news, whilst i agree he isnt playing well - we need players like that for the remaining games. You do wonder just how many points we would have with Ramsey and Walcott fit, whilst im no big fan of the latter his goals / assists cannot be denied - he cant control a football at times but he does have an impact on games.

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Sacrilege to say this I know, but in ways I am glad that is over..we were never going to win it and while a good run in it is exciting it can also be deceivingly counterproductive. I do not see it as a moral victory to draw away to the Champions but it is good not to be demoralised by a hammering.
Unlike the last few years we have an attainable prize in our grasp, whatever happens in the one and hopefully two games at Wembley I cannot or will not be convinced that our club will make any cutting progress on the biggest two prizes while Arsene Wenger is our Manager. If we do win the FA Cup it will not be enough to justify his management of the team.
On the game itself, firstly what about the Ox, just like the second leg against Milan two years ago he really showed up on the night. He was feeling his leg/calf before being withdrawn, I know he was shattered but Im dreading le boss explain on Friday that he is out "short term"..we know what that means.
Fabianski had a great game and deserved his penalty save..a few lapses apart the defence were excellent. Sagna a bit indecisive on the ball lead to a few problems. Thought first half especially Santi was careless but improved a lot later. Ozil was and continues to be a mystery. I know he is world class and like Bergkamp, Henry and Pires who had their detractors at first I hope and pray he proves them all wrong. Arteta was tidy but a bit rash especially when on a yellow. I am a big Podolski fan and again he proved once in the box he is our best finisher. Why oh why isn't he given more chances to show that ? Giroud did try to impose himself but in the first half we , understandably , did not push up to support him. Rosicky was better than Ozil, but being overly critical I have seen him better.
What a fuck up with Ryo traveling, seriously people are paid to monitor these situations. It shows up well for Super Nick's future that he didn't travel..is he injured ? and if so how ?
I can see Bayern retain the trophy, one team that could stop them is Chelsea :banghead: ...They can frustrate and strangle a game . That is an awful thought to finish on.
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