City match thread

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Henry Norris 1913
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LeftfootlegendGooner wrote:
milesgooner wrote:I and most of the people I sat with thought Giroud had an ok game today. How many of the people making comments on here actually went to the game today?
The service he had was minimal and he held the ball up fairly well and won a lot of balls in the air.
No one from midfield ran ahead of him, so he was often isolated.
He is not a shit striker, but he doesn't suit Arsenal's style either.
Wenger should rightly be getting the stick for not buying a striker in the Summer.
If Giroud had a chance to be rested whose to say he wouldn't look a lot sharper than he does currently.
Well you must have watched a different game to me mate, giroud was beaten in the air on most occasions and he has so little pace that when he had a one two in the 2nd half on the edge of the area he took the shot early because he didn't want to take on a static kompany. He, as usual dragged the limp shot very wide :roll:

I am one of the posters that gave him time to settle but now it is clear that he is not good enough but worse than that he seems disinterested.
this.

thing is with giroud is not only is he not good enough he doesn't have the brain to play up front by himself, he's two seconds too slow mentally, but physically he has as much presence as ryo miy-what the fuck his name is, and he misses at least three sitters a match. For every goal he scores he puts in at least five tame efforts. We all gave him time and supported him but he's already 27 and not looking like improving any time soon.

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I think I must have been.....because the one thing he didn't lack was effort.
Once again he is getting knocked for not being Suarez.
He is a player that can play up front on his own but he needs other people in support and there was very little of that going on.
I'm not saying he should be our number one striker but there are some really tired arguments on here.
I don't think he will be around next season, but I'd be more than happy seeing him come off the bench.

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milesgooner wrote:I think I must have been.....because the one thing he didn't lack was effort.
Once again he is getting knocked for not being Suarez.
He is a player that can play up front on his own but he needs other people in support and there was very little of that going on.
I'm not saying he should be our number one striker but there are some really tired arguments on here.
I don't think he will be around next season, but I'd be more than happy seeing him come off the bench.
well the fact is that he has been our number 1 striker for the past 2 seasons and he clearly isn't good enough - that is why he is coming in for criticism.

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Midz wrote:Giroud is shite!
I concur 8)

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There is a difference between not being good enough for Arsenal's starting 11 and being shite.
Carlos Vela was not good enough for Arsenal but is tearing up La Liga.
Was he shite?

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milesgooner wrote:There is a difference between not being good enough for Arsenal's starting 11 and being shite.
Carlos Vela was not good enough for Arsenal but is tearing up La Liga.
Was he shite?
Then I guess the manager is shite for not getting the best out of him because another manager clearly has :rubchin:

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milesgooner wrote:There is a difference between not being good enough for Arsenal's starting 11 and being shite.
Carlos Vela was not good enough for Arsenal but is tearing up La Liga.
Was he shite?
I don't know what you are going on about.
Wenger has had FOUR transfer windows to replace Van Persie - he has failed to do so.

in the meantime little Liverpool have developed Suarez and Sturridge into strikers capable of competing for the title.
what is Wenger's excuse?

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It's clear you haven't got a clue what I'm going on about.
I'm defending Giroud, not defending Wenger.
If you read my message I said it was Wenger he should be wearing this NOT Giroud.
I am also saying Giroud is not a shit striker, just not good enough to be in the first 11.
It's not difficult to understand is it.......is it?

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if you are defending Giroud then you are defending Wenger - the guy should not have been first choice striker this season

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Gunner Rob wrote:if you are defending Giroud then you are defending Wenger - the guy should not have been first choice striker this season
Exactly.

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Not good enough for the starting 11 is the biggest understatement of the decade. He is slow, can't shoot, can't head the ball, can't hold the ball up, has no skill and gets ridiculed by bottom of the table team's supporters. His attitude is fucking awful which doesn't help his cause.

So yes, after 2 seasons it is safe to say he is shit.

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milesgooner wrote:It's clear you haven't got a clue what I'm going on about.
I'm defending Giroud, not defending Wenger.
If you read my message I said it was Wenger he should be wearing this NOT Giroud.
I am also saying Giroud is not a shit striker, just not good enough to be in the first 11.
It's not difficult to understand is it.......is it?
Don't worry mate, you're argument makes complete sense. I'm not sure why the others are struggling to grasp it :shock: :?

You're not defending Wenger at all. Neither are you saying Giroud is good enough to be a first team regular. You're simply saying he's limited but not shite and good enough for the squad.

Blame should be on Wenger, not Giroud, for him being in a position where we're playing to his weaknesses and not his strengths.

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MrT wrote:Not good enough for the starting 11 is the biggest understatement of the decade. He is slow, can't shoot, can't head the ball, can't hold the ball up, has no skill and gets ridiculed by bottom of the table team's supporters. His attitude is fucking awful which doesn't help his cause.

So yes, after 2 seasons it is safe to say he is shit.
+1

People have this view of him as being a good striker because he has scored 10 or so goals.

But really he is as you say simply shit.

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Christ how is saying it's not Giroud's fault it's Wenger's defending Wenger?
That is the stupidest argument I've seen.
He's scored 13 league goals in 30 league games and provided 7 assists. For a lone striker with very little support I would suggest that is not shit.
Read my earlier posts - I don't think he should be in our starting 11, I think this is Wenger's fault, but I think he would be an ideal squad player.
Clear....? I f'ing hope so!

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milesgooner wrote:Christ how is saying it's not Giroud's fault it's Wenger's defending Wenger?
That is the stupidest argument I've seen.
He's scored 13 league goals in 30 league games and provided 7 assists. For a lone striker with very little support I would suggest that is not shit.
Read my earlier posts - I don't think he should be in our starting 11, I think this is Wenger's fault, but I think he would be an ideal squad player.
Clear....? I f'ing hope so!
Try explaining it again with props :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh5kZ4uIUC0

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