City match thread

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LeftfootlegendGooner
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Re: City match thread

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milesgooner wrote:Christ how is saying it's not Giroud's fault it's Wenger's defending Wenger?
That is the stupidest argument I've seen.
He's scored 13 league goals in 30 league games and provided 7 assists. For a lone striker with very little support I would suggest that is not shit.
Read my earlier posts - I don't think he should be in our starting 11, I think this is Wenger's fault, but I think he would be an ideal squad player.
Clear....? I f'ing hope so!
TBH mate I think it's you tying yourself in knots :lol:

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MrT wrote:Not good enough for the starting 11 is the biggest understatement of the decade. He is slow, can't shoot, can't head the ball, can't hold the ball up, has no skill and gets ridiculed by bottom of the table team's supporters. His attitude is fucking awful which doesn't help his cause.

So yes, after 2 seasons it is safe to say he is shit.
bugger me would they all turn him down? :shock:

I knew he was rubbish but surely not that bad. :oops:

Of all the failed striker's we've had here is where giroud ranks.

Worst Arsenal Strikers

1. Park (barely count him, because even wenger won't play him), but pays him
2. Chamakh - Scared to shoot, at least can play football
3. Gervinho (well he played there and he was shit)
4. Giroud - Midtable striker
5. Adebayor . Adebayor is actually a good striker, but has a disgusting attitude, and would never have him in my team.

All 5 came from the French league :roll:

It's a clear as day where our problem is. Tactically City pushed heavily onto to us with a high line and we struggled, I think the difference at home is that we saw enough of the ball to stay in the game, and in the 2nd we passed with confidence.

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Supagoon wrote:
MrT wrote:Not good enough for the starting 11 is the biggest understatement of the decade. He is slow, can't shoot, can't head the ball, can't hold the ball up, has no skill and gets ridiculed by bottom of the table team's supporters. His attitude is fucking awful which doesn't help his cause.

So yes, after 2 seasons it is safe to say he is shit.
bugger me would they all turn him down? :shock:

I knew he was rubbish but surely not that bad. :oops:

Of all the failed striker's we've had here is where giroud ranks.

Worst Arsenal Strikers

1. Park (barely count him, because even wenger won't play him), but pays him
2. Chamakh - Scared to shoot, at least can play football
3. Gervinho (well he played there and he was shit)
4. Giroud - Midtable striker
5. Adebayor . Adebayor is actually a good striker, but has a disgusting attitude, and would never have him in my team.

All 5 came from the French league :roll:

It's a clear as day where our problem is. Tactically City pushed heavily onto to us with a high line and we struggled, I think the difference at home is that we saw enough of the ball to stay in the game, and in the 2nd we passed with confidence.
Thats a pretty poor list and inaccurate in the extreme :lol:

You must have drunk as much wine and beer as me :lol:

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Our main problem currently is the lack of pace in the side.
I'm not Walcott's biggest fan but it is clear when he is not around what he brings to the team.
Other teams can defend a high line and squeeze the midfield when he's not about.
I can see why Wenger wants to sell Podolski. Great finisher but provides bugger all support to Gibbs and is never going to be fit enough to be anything more than an impact sub.
Carzorla and Rosicky were great today, but the pace of the game looks like it's crept up on Arteta.
Whoever's in charge next season needs to buy 5 or 6 players, starting with the spine of the team.

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anyone know what happened to the guy in the concourse at half time near block 7?

seemed to be down on the floor for a long time with a lot of stewards and medical staff round him?

Hope the geezer is ok :?

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i'm with miles ish.

i've been a supporter of Giroud because i wanted him to succeed, so i watched him really carefully today.

his first touch was not good at all. i can only think that he's knackered and his confidence is shot.

he's clearly not a lone striker but a front two player. today he had fuck all support too.

not a great combination.

i don't what Wenger does, but he kills strikers confidence sometimes -Jeffers, Chamakh, Gervinho and now Giroud.

he fucks with their natural game i think

he's like those women who fall in love with a bloke as he is and then after they're married tries to change him.

he bought giroud to play up with Pod but now he's dropping pod and playing Grioud up all alone.

he's weird.

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As discussed with a non-Arsenal friend:

We need pace in the team, but one fast player is not enough, the opposition can mark him out of the game.

We need a couple of fast/"power run" players on the pitch at any one time.
Walcott and Ramsey are this type but both are injured.

But today, no fast players were started.

The Ox was brought on. making one fast player.

Why not Gnabry as well?

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milesgooner wrote:I and most of the people I sat with thought Giroud had an ok game today. How many of the people making comments on here actually went to the game today?
The service he had was minimal and he held the ball up fairly well and won a lot of balls in the air.
No one from midfield ran ahead of him, so he was often isolated.
He is not a shit striker, but he doesn't suit Arsenal's style either.
Wenger should rightly be getting the stick for not buying a striker in the Summer.
If Giroud had a chance to be rested whose to say he wouldn't look a lot sharper than he does currently.
This, people on this forum cant give objectives beyond their agendas to get rid of wenger. Giroud is not in the longer term good enough to lead the line for arsenal, but he has applied himself 100% in every game there is no doubt.

Wenger picks him ahead of pod because lets be honest he is a lazy fucker who wont track back as much as he should.

All in all a solid performance, a bit nervy in the first half and to suggest that city took their foot off the pedal after scoring is hilarious. They may have games in hand but they still need to put points on the board. Give the team some credit for a spirited second half showing.

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Pity a lot of our players can't match the energy shown by Tomas. Oldest player on our team but plays like the youngest. Second half display was excellent, need that for 90 minutes though. We got a point in a game none of us expected. With the chavs losing too it has been a good weekend so far.

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Pity a lot of our players can't match the energy shown by Tomas. Oldest player on our team but plays like the youngest.
Rosicky's been a delight to watch since he got 100% fit again. Pure silky class. In Rosicky and Ozil there are no finer attacking midfield passers in Europe. Just a pity they've got no one to pass to now. We've now got the most limp dick attack for an Arsenal team I've seen for many, many a season. Wenger never gets the balance right.

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Never felt we were overrun by City in the first half, it did start ominously enough with Gibbs being completely exposed by lack of cover. Once the game settled a bit we were second best but not by a million miles (how do you calculate a million miles ?) . The second half saw a big rise in tempo from Arsenal and a sudden fall off in the same from City. we deserved a draw, could have go more , but equally could have lost..Positives were the attitude in second half, the emergence of Flamini as a leader , some of Santi's creative play when in the centre and the improved spirits. Negatives were the pedestrian pace of some of our play, obviously the loss of Walcott and Ramsey are mitigating circumstances in this, the substitution of Podolski was ludicrous, again our main goal scoring threat is taken off when Giroud ambles around the pitch in a slower gear. The alternative change I was hoping for was Ox for Arteta or Ox for Giroud with Podolski in central attacking position.
From a here and now perspective it wasn't a bad result for Arsenal, to come back against the eventual champions (hopefully) is decent and hopefully galvanises the squad for the FA Cup . I am non committal about the VT , want Arsenal to finish well but this holy grail is not serving our club well, it leads to more false dawns and broken promises. Having said that I think we will finish fourth, avoid defeat at Goodison should be enough.

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Bradywasking wrote:Never felt we were overrun by City in the first half, it did start ominously enough with Gibbs being completely exposed by lack of cover. Once the game settled a bit we were second best but not by a million miles (how do you calculate a million miles ?) . The second half saw a big rise in tempo from Arsenal and a sudden fall off in the same from City. we deserved a draw, could have go more , but equally could have lost..Positives were the attitude in second half, the emergence of Flamini as a leader , some of Santi's creative play when in the centre and the improved spirits. Negatives were the pedestrian pace of some of our play, obviously the loss of Walcott and Ramsey are mitigating circumstances in this, the substitution of Podolski was ludicrous, again our main goal scoring threat is taken off when Giroud ambles around the pitch in a slower gear. The alternative change I was hoping for was Ox for Arteta or Ox for Giroud with Podolski in central attacking position.
From a here and now perspective it wasn't a bad result for Arsenal, to come back against the eventual champions (hopefully) is decent and hopefully galvanises the squad for the FA Cup . I am non committal about the VT , want Arsenal to finish well but this holy grail is not serving our club well, it leads to more false dawns and broken promises. Having said that I think we will finish fourth, avoid defeat at Goodison should be enough.

I'm with you 100% on that - am actually how many fans are lauding rosicky's performance yesterday cos I felt that on occasions he was sloppy in possession and should, if we are being honest, have received two yellows yesterday. On the other hand cazorla shone brightly yesterday which is great news cos he has been very poor of late

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Considering our injuries and who the opposition was, I thought we were fantastic.

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Considering our injuries and who the opposition was, I thought we were fantastic.

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afcforever wrote:Considering our injuries and who the opposition was, I thought we were fantastic.
Some of this is correct. I never saw us getting a point from this game, the boys did brilliant. But why are so many of our injuries so long term :? Sanogo off the bench is down to Wenger buying total crap.

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