GAZIDIS - A DISGRACE & MORE CULPABLE THAN WENGER

[Babatunde]

I would STILL like to know how Gazidis is responsible for the following:

1. Playing Almunia in goal for 4 years
2. Letting Flamini's contract run down
3. Failing to sign a defender last January
4. Not wanting to 'kill' Denilson
5. Conceding 8 goals at Old Trafford
6. Letting a 4 goal lead slip at St James park
7. Choosing to blow £13 mil on some kid from League 1
8. Signing a defender from the Conference
9. Failing to recruit club legends like Keown, Bergkamp and Adams to help out with the team. Even Wright could help the strikers' movement (oh but none of them speak French you see, so Grimandi is the only person allowed near us)
10. Keeping Armand Traore on ludicrous wages for over 3 years.

As soon as I get answers for how Gazidis is responsible for that then, I'll hold my hands up and admit I am wrong to slate Wenger.

[MK Gould]

I was driving back from Gatwick last night listening to the countdown show. Martin Keown was on it and the presenter asked him what he thought of the current situation and was Wenger forced to buy after the 8-2 drubbing at the weekend. I found his answer to be quite interesting.

He said that he believes it was the other way around and that the defeat at the weekend was designed by Wenger to force the club to allow him to spend! Not the scoreline, the result. He said he firmly believed that and had good reason to do so!

I posted a comment (albeit slightly tongue in cheek) elsewhere to the effect that Wenger himself may have been delighted with the scoreline at OT for exactly the reasons that Keown mentioned on the radio.... Everything from team selection, tactics, substitutions, late withdrawals through injuries, smacks of Wenger looking for a result - and it wasn't an Arsenal win!

[DB10GOONER]

I would STILL like to know how Gazidis is responsible for the following:

1. Playing Almunia in goal for 4 years
2. Letting Flamini's contract run down
3. Failing to sign a defender last January
4. Not wanting to 'kill' Denilson
5. Conceding 8 goals at Old Trafford
6. Letting a 4 goal lead slip at St James park
7. Choosing to blow £13 mil on some kid from League 1
8. Signing a defender from the Conference
9. Failing to recruit club legends like Keown, Bergkamp and Adams to help out with the team. Even Wright could help the strikers' movement (oh but none of them speak French you see, so Grimandi is the only person allowed near us)
10. Keeping Armand Traore on ludicrous wages for over 3 years.

As soon as I get answers for how Gazidis is responsible for that then, I'll hold my hands up and admit I am wrong to slate Wenger.

Where rolypolybullshitter is concerned, I think you'll be waiting mate.

[Babatunde]

It's really funny to hear people claiming that that 8-2 hammering was all part of a Wenger masterplan.

So after Wenger spent years denouncing corruption and the lack of integrity from the likes of Bernard Tapie and Dreyfuss at Marseille and in French football; this bastion of moral courage decided to sacrifice his club's global reputation by incurring the biggest footballing humiliation in over 120 years??

The man of moral virtue did this! Wow, a new level of apologetic bullshit from Keown. Another Arsene Apologist...

[psychoangus]

God these threads make me feel tired.

[bradders]

I am not here to defend Wenger but the personal foul mouthed abuse he has endured on forums such as this is completely wrong and unfair.

Wrong because I believe Wenger is a decent man who has done wonders for the club if you consider his 15 years as a whole.

Wenger 'is a decent man'?

Some random choices here.

1. 'Second place for the next 20 years'
2. Getting so shafted by the board he is willing to sign up a new megabucks contract for himself in double-time. yeah poor Arsene
3. Consistently lying to supporters
4. Barring fans from dialogue after someone dared to criticize his fluffer Silvestre
5. 'Haven't worked half a day in football'
6. Content to pick up £6.5 million a year in wages for winning fuck all, but then moaning about wages in football.
7. Talking about 'financial doping' and then paying shits like Diaby, Song, Denilson, Bendtner and Chamakh up to £80k a week (in the case of Chamakh)
8. Using the post-Udinese game to have a pop at fans who dared to question him. He weren't such a fucking loudmouth after Old Trafford a few days later was he?
9. Lying to fans and telling them he never knew Vermaelen would be out all season. Then two months later, admitting that he knew Vermaelen would be out for the whole season.
10. Actually coming out and justifying the 6.5% price hike.
11. Disrespected the Arsenal captaincy by tossing it around to uncommited players (even letting Nasri wear it in pre-season)

Nope. Wenger is a c**t.

I actually have more respect for Alex Ferguson because he doesn't lie so brazenly to ManUre fans. Whne he obviously had a problem with the board a few years back, he just kept his counsel to himself. He did not confirm or deny anything.

Wenger goes out of his way to lie. He's a c**t, he's a greedy self-serving capitalist who hides in a social egalitarian's clothing. When the reality is, he's as greedy and money obsessed as they come.

Wenger OUT.

^^^ What he said but with a few more *word censored* thrown in....

[DB10GOONER]

God these threads make me feel tired.

You should try reading them all, mate...

[kiwomya]

I would STILL like to know how Gazidis is responsible for the following:

2. Letting Flamini's contract run down
3. Failing to sign a defender last January
7. Choosing to blow £13 mil on some kid from League 1
10. Keeping Armand Traore on ludicrous wages for over 3 years.

As soon as I get answers for how Gazidis is responsible for that then, I'll hold my hands up and admit I am wrong to slate Wenger.

Not taking the piss here but are you suggesting that it's Wenger that caused the above ones?

My understanding is Wenger doesn't negotiate the players contracts nor is he responsible for negotiating the transfer deals.

[MK Gould]

Double post.....not me you understand. Caused by the bl**dy site!

[flash gunner]

I would STILL like to know how Gazidis is responsible for the following:

2. Letting Flamini's contract run down
3. Failing to sign a defender last January
7. Choosing to blow £13 mil on some kid from League 1
10. Keeping Armand Traore on ludicrous wages for over 3 years.

As soon as I get answers for how Gazidis is responsible for that then, I'll hold my hands up and admit I am wrong to slate Wenger.

Not taking the piss here but are you suggesting that it's Wenger that caused the above ones?

My understanding is Wenger doesn't negotiate the players contracts nor is he responsible for negotiating the transfer deals.

why then did he say recently that he hasnt had time to get players in as he's been trying all summer to keep hold of Cesc and Nasri?

[kiwomya]

I would STILL like to know how Gazidis is responsible for the following:

2. Letting Flamini's contract run down
3. Failing to sign a defender last January
7. Choosing to blow £13 mil on some kid from League 1
10. Keeping Armand Traore on ludicrous wages for over 3 years.

As soon as I get answers for how Gazidis is responsible for that then, I'll hold my hands up and admit I am wrong to slate Wenger.

Not taking the piss here but are you suggesting that it's Wenger that caused the above ones?

My understanding is Wenger doesn't negotiate the players contracts nor is he responsible for negotiating the transfer deals.

why then did he say recently that he hasnt had time to get players in as he's been trying all summer to keep hold of Cesc and Nasri?

Technically the club was doing that. Untill they knew what was going it would have been hard to sign anyone.

[richpye]

Anyone that defends Wenger always uses the money argument, and blames the board.
I've never seen anyone try to defend Wenger by saying he's a tactical genius, that he always prepares and has a plan B, that he manages the players really well, is great in the changing room with motivational speeches, etc etc.

Oh......that's right, it's because he's totally shit at all the above!

Well I will defend him on some of those points.
Firstly when we were operating with our old budgets he created arguably one of the quickest teams in Premier League history with system that was almost undefendable.

Agreed re No Plan B

Thirdly many players have credited him with extending their careers, introducing new dietary regimes etc (Adams, Dixon and Bould etc.)
Fabregas and Nasri have both openly said he has been like a father to him. This is pretty impressive man management in my opinion.

Regarding motivational speeches, Adams states in his autobiography that Wenger preached a "less is more" approach the players were empowered to improve their own game. In management there's a great book called "The One Minute Manager" which is used by a lot of Fortune 500 companies, which is similar to this approach. Whilst this may be a different approach to the hair dryer, assault your players approach of Fergie it has also worked (albeit in the past)

[flash gunner]

I would STILL like to know how Gazidis is responsible for the following:

2. Letting Flamini's contract run down
3. Failing to sign a defender last January
7. Choosing to blow £13 mil on some kid from League 1
10. Keeping Armand Traore on ludicrous wages for over 3 years.

As soon as I get answers for how Gazidis is responsible for that then, I'll hold my hands up and admit I am wrong to slate Wenger.

Not taking the piss here but are you suggesting that it's Wenger that caused the above ones?

My understanding is Wenger doesn't negotiate the players contracts nor is he responsible for negotiating the transfer deals.

why then did he say recently that he hasnt had time to get players in as he's been trying all summer to keep hold of Cesc and Nasri?

Technically the club was doing that. Untill they knew what was going it would have been hard to sign anyone.

Maybe but still no excuse for not signing the defensive players we needed

[spike241]

What I don't understand is if Wenger is the bad guy and everyone on the board are the good guys then why don't the good guys go behind the bad guy's back and spend some money?
If Wenger identifies targets but thinks they are overpriced and the board disagree then why don't they offer more?

[I Hate Hleb]

The problem is that there are no 'good guys' in this story - only bad ones.