For any remaining AKB...

[northbank123]

A shock defeat against Reading and our following game is against the mighty Wigan who often get a result against us, two more defeats and I think the worm may just turn......he'll never be sacked but imo there is a possibility that the club would 'ask' him to walk...... I never thought I would hope for defeats but now I do, two or three more on the bounce and we could be rid of him.....

"often get a result against us"

We've beaten Wigan every time we've played them apart from twice.

Some of you people should work in the media, you'd be ideal.

If you're going to be pedantic surely you should remember the Carling Cup in 2006 and the fact that they turfed us out of that too.

[skipper]

For the AKB the war is over

Hard to imagine now that Wenger brought us gems like Vieira and Henry in a past life. Now he buys duds, 10 to 12 million may not be much in the world of football now, but it has to buy better than forehead and (although free) camel.

Wenger has no doubt lost his eye for the transfer market. The further we sink too, the further the cream of talent will run away from us. Like the loss of a faithfull hound we must now put Weng out of his misery and just cast a stick in memory of him from time to time. Let's hope we get a new Pep (sorry, pup) for Christmas

It's actualy easy to explain...majority of Arsenal signings in past 15 years were either French or were playing in French league...Wenger got lucky with World Cup winning players all those years ago, but France isn't force in World football anymore, just like Arsenal isn't force in English football anymore...

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

For the AKB the war is over

Hard to imagine now that Wenger brought us gems like Vieira and Henry in a past life. Now he buys duds, 10 to 12 million may not be much in the world of football now, but it has to buy better than forehead and (although free) camel.

Wenger has no doubt lost his eye for the transfer market. The further we sink too, the further the cream of talent will run away from us. Like the loss of a faithfull hound we must now put Weng out of his misery and just cast a stick in memory of him from time to time. Let's hope we get a new Pep (sorry, pup) for Christmas

It's actualy easy to explain...majority of Arsenal signings in past 15 years were either French or were playing in French league...Wenger got lucky with World Cup winning players all those years ago, but France isn't force in World football anymore, just like Arsenal isn't force in English football anymore...

There are many things you can rightly complain about when it comes to Wenger but to say he "got lucky" with those players is just madness, listen to it again "got lucky with WORLD CUP WINNING PLAYERS", in other words World Class Players, no luck involved there me thinks.

Carry on

[skipper]

Well it's quite obvious that there is a long term policy of recruiting French players/players from Ligue1...for first few years it worked because those players were World cup winners, but it hasn't worked in last 10 years, simply because French players/from Ligue 1 are not as good as Henry/Pires/Vieira.

It's a bit like always betting on black in casino and claiming to be genius if luck spins you 4 or 5 blacks in the row...

You can call it madness, but it's plain to see, there is no great foresight by Wenger, he was/is simply picking up players from France/French ligue...otherwise how do you explain Squillaci/Chamakh/Gervinho?

[northbank123]

It's not that there haven't been good players in Ligue 1. It's just that other clubs have copied and even exceeded our scouting networks, and taken the pick of those players. Instead of expanding our network elsewhere, or being willing to change policy regarding the fee we're willing to pay for players, we've stubbornly continued to use the same tactic and consequently have been left with second-rate signings like Koscielny and Giroud, or worse dross like Cygan or Chamakh.

You can't say the players haven't been there because Chelsea's great title-winning team of 2004-06 was largely built around Ligue 1 signings Cech, Drogba and Essien. Now Drogba and Essien (and now Hazard) cost more than we know we'd be willing to pay, but Petr Cech was an absolute bargain.

[green gooner]

Clear to see he has lost the Midas touch now. When did he last make a signing that really stole the headlines

We are a club back pedalling into an abyss that we may never recover from again in a very, very long time

Would anybody even trust him with any kind of transfer kitty now going by his track record of late

[Perryashburtongroves]

For the AKB the war is over

Hard to imagine now that Wenger brought us gems like Vieira and Henry in a past life. Now he buys duds, 10 to 12 million may not be much in the world of football now, but it has to buy better than forehead and (although free) camel.

Wenger has no doubt lost his eye for the transfer market. The further we sink too, the further the cream of talent will run away from us. Like the loss of a faithfull hound we must now put Weng out of his misery and just cast a stick in memory of him from time to time. Let's hope we get a new Pep (sorry, pup) for Christmas

It's actualy easy to explain...majority of Arsenal signings in past 15 years were either French or were playing in French league...Wenger got lucky with World Cup winning players all those years ago, but France isn't force in World football anymore, just like Arsenal isn't force in English football anymore...

There are many things you can rightly complain about when it comes to Wenger but to say he "got lucky" with those players is just madness, listen to it again "got lucky with WORLD CUP WINNING PLAYERS", in other words World Class Players, no luck involved there me thinks.

Carry on

He knew that the French had a very good generation coming through and had contacts at their Clairefontaine academy who tipped him the wink on the next big things in French football. The market was untapped and he took full advantage. One the well ran dry and others started scouting in other relatively underused markets, he was fucked.

[littlefire]

And he ate BOTH my hamsters!

[VoiceOfReason]

A shock defeat against Reading and our following game is against the mighty Wigan who often get a result against us, two more defeats and I think the worm may just turn......he'll never be sacked but imo there is a possibility that the club would 'ask' him to walk...... I never thought I would hope for defeats but now I do, two or three more on the bounce and we could be rid of him.....

"often get a result against us"

We've beaten Wigan every time we've played them apart from twice.

Some of you people should work in the media, you'd be ideal.

January 2006: Wigan 1-0 Arsenal

March 2008: Wigan 0-0 Arsenal

April 2010: Wigan 3-2 Arsenal

December 2010: Wigan 2-2 Arsenal

April 2012: Arsenal 1-2 Wigan

And you're accusing other people of false statistics?

[arseofacrow]

A shock defeat against Reading and our following game is against the mighty Wigan who often get a result against us, two more defeats and I think the worm may just turn......he'll never be sacked but imo there is a possibility that the club would 'ask' him to walk...... I never thought I would hope for defeats but now I do, two or three more on the bounce and we could be rid of him.....

"often get a result against us"

We've beaten Wigan every time we've played them apart from twice.

Some of you people should work in the media, you'd be ideal.

January 2006: Wigan 1-0 Arsenal

March 2008: Wigan 0-0 Arsenal

April 2010: Wigan 3-2 Arsenal

December 2010: Wigan 2-2 Arsenal

April 2012: Arsenal 1-2 Wigan

And you're accusing other people of false statistics?

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

For the AKB the war is over

Hard to imagine now that Wenger brought us gems like Vieira and Henry in a past life. Now he buys duds, 10 to 12 million may not be much in the world of football now, but it has to buy better than forehead and (although free) camel.

Wenger has no doubt lost his eye for the transfer market. The further we sink too, the further the cream of talent will run away from us. Like the loss of a faithfull hound we must now put Weng out of his misery and just cast a stick in memory of him from time to time. Let's hope we get a new Pep (sorry, pup) for Christmas

It's actualy easy to explain...majority of Arsenal signings in past 15 years were either French or were playing in French league...Wenger got lucky with World Cup winning players all those years ago, but France isn't force in World football anymore, just like Arsenal isn't force in English football anymore...

There are many things you can rightly complain about when it comes to Wenger but to say he "got lucky" with those players is just madness, listen to it again "got lucky with WORLD CUP WINNING PLAYERS", in other words World Class Players, no luck involved there me thinks.

Carry on

He knew that the French had a very good generation coming through and had contacts at their Clairefontaine academy who tipped him the wink on the next big things in French football. The market was untapped and he took full advantage. One the well ran dry and others started scouting in other relatively underused markets, he was fucked.

Thats too simplistic for me, I mean Henry and Viera didn't come from the french league before coming to us and Pires was being chased by Real Madrid and Juventus but Wenger being French obviously convinced him to join Arsenal so they HAD been discovered before we got hold of them it was just that Wenger convinced them to join us and got the best out of them and moulded them into a terrific side.

You say the well dried up but they are still a lot of French players playing at TOP clubs, what happened was the cost of these players rocketed and Wenger wasn't prepared to pay the money imho.

I think it is time for a change but to say Wenger is a shit manager is just madness and to insult the guy is childish too.

[Perryashburtongroves]

For the AKB the war is over

Hard to imagine now that Wenger brought us gems like Vieira and Henry in a past life. Now he buys duds, 10 to 12 million may not be much in the world of football now, but it has to buy better than forehead and (although free) camel.

Wenger has no doubt lost his eye for the transfer market. The further we sink too, the further the cream of talent will run away from us. Like the loss of a faithfull hound we must now put Weng out of his misery and just cast a stick in memory of him from time to time. Let's hope we get a new Pep (sorry, pup) for Christmas

It's actualy easy to explain...majority of Arsenal signings in past 15 years were either French or were playing in French league...Wenger got lucky with World Cup winning players all those years ago, but France isn't force in World football anymore, just like Arsenal isn't force in English football anymore...

There are many things you can rightly complain about when it comes to Wenger but to say he "got lucky" with those players is just madness, listen to it again "got lucky with WORLD CUP WINNING PLAYERS", in other words World Class Players, no luck involved there me thinks.

Carry on

He knew that the French had a very good generation coming through and had contacts at their Clairefontaine academy who tipped him the wink on the next big things in French football. The market was untapped and he took full advantage. One the well ran dry and others started scouting in other relatively underused markets, he was fucked.

Thats too simplistic for me, I mean Henry and Viera didn't come from the french league before coming to us and Pires was being chased by Real Madrid and Juventus but Wenger being French obviously convinced him to join Arsenal so they HAD been discovered before we got hold of them it was just that Wenger convinced them to join us and got the best out of them and moulded them into a terrific side.

You say the well dried up but they are still a lot of French players playing at TOP clubs, what happened was the cost of these players rocketed and Wenger wasn't prepared to pay the money imho.

I think it is time for a change but to say Wenger is a shit manager is just madness and to insult the guy is childish too.

I'm not saying he's shit or insulting him but was making the point that a very important part of his early success was bringing in cheaper, unknown or hidden gems from the French leagues and when other clubs woke up to the potential money savings and successes of decent scouting networks, Wenger didn't always get first pick on them thus losing a good cource of new players. At the time Pires signed for us, we were successful and at ambitious- not so much now. I agree with you that there are still good quality French players at decent clubs but nowhere near as good as that generation of Zidane, Lizazaru, Henry, Pires, Vieira, Thuram, Blanc etc. Part of this is luck and part is decent coaching from experienced managers and in the younger years of French football. Wenger did have a lot of contacts in France until he started pissing a lot of clubs off by nicking their players. Nowadays because we aren't winners, we can't turn the heads of decent- world class players as easily as we could before.

[storrmin571]

Still waiting for an answer from an AKB as to why we should keep him.

[augie]

Still waiting for an answer from an AKB as to why we should keep him.

Speaking on behalf of all the other akb, can I ask who can we replace him with ?

[olgitgooner]

Still waiting for an answer from an AKB as to why we should keep him.

Speaking on behalf of all the other akb, can I ask who can we replace him with ?

Er.....that will be anyone who doesn't have a heart attack at the sight of a cheque book.