England v Brazil, Cashley 100 caps

[rodders999]

We would have won the league in 2008 if Cashley was playing left back. Calamity Clichy cost us that tropy on THAT day in Birmingham and I for one will never, EVER forgive the bastard for it.

[TheCook]

Interestingly, he was the only player, past or present, to attend Amanada Docherty's leaving do at the stadium a few years ago.

[rodders999]

Interestingly, he was the only player, past or present, to attend Amanada Docherty's leaving do at the stadium a few years ago.

He probably banged her, puked up on her and left

[EC3]

Maybe Cole should of signed the contract and then told Arsenal he won't be working on a Monday.

Arsenal moved the goalposts, so why not him.

Big big mess up by Arsenal and if i was in Cole's position i would of done the same.

[rodders999]

Wasn't the 5 grand meant to be for Cole's agent rather than Cole himself which is why Arsenal didn't pay?

[DB10GOONER]

Obviously, we Gooners hate him because all he ever did was talk up being a Gooner from the terraces that made good at The Arsenal (alluding to being the modern Charlie George) and then he fucked us over £5K a week extra. The usual one dimensional Anti-Wenger argument will be raised but it doesn't wash in this case - Cuntley left over money and money alone but some people can't see past their hatred of Wenger and accept that. Cuntley had secret meetings touting himself to the chavs behind The Arsenal's back, proved he was a selfish lying little toe-rag by jumping ship over an extra £5K a week (how much fucking money does one need to play football at the club they supposedly love?) and then you add all the other stuff to this and you get a dirty little chav toe rag.

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Sorry bit confused here. WE, the Arsenal, shaft Ashley over £5 piddling K a week, yet Ashley is the problem in all this?

You make it sound as if £5K a week is nothing. Well if this is the case, why did our wonderful board at the time not pay this nothing amount. Then none of what followed would have occured.

And please stop the mantra of 'we Gooners hate him'. It simply is not the case that all Gooners hate him. Many of my mates think he is OK. They can see how we tried to take the piss in transfer negotiations, and we ended up the loser.
If we had kept Ashley, paid him properly, we would have won a couple of trophies in the last six years. Instead we have a squad of primarily losers that will never win anything.

Are you going to tell me that you didn't hold resentment towards him when he left?

Or, far more likely, is it just that you're so anti-Wenger and anti-board now that you'll align yourself with anybody who disagrees with them?

The club fucked up, no doubt. But to suggest Cole was justified in his actions is fucking bollocks. And people suggest that Cole 'saw what was coming', as if he and they knew in January 2005 that we were going to go the way we have.

Agreed 100%. All this bollocks about "Cashley saw what was coming at the Arsenal". Fucking rubbish. The little crunt left over one thing; money.

[A dallying Gus Caesar]

Obviously, we Gooners hate him because all he ever did was talk up being a Gooner from the terraces that made good at The Arsenal (alluding to being the modern Charlie George) and then he fucked us over £5K a week extra. The usual one dimensional Anti-Wenger argument will be raised but it doesn't wash in this case - Cuntley left over money and money alone but some people can't see past their hatred of Wenger and accept that. Cuntley had secret meetings touting himself to the chavs behind The Arsenal's back, proved he was a selfish lying little toe-rag by jumping ship over an extra £5K a week (how much fucking money does one need to play football at the club they supposedly love?) and then you add all the other stuff to this and you get a dirty little chav toe rag.

????????

Sorry bit confused here. WE, the Arsenal, shaft Ashley over £5 piddling K a week, yet Ashley is the problem in all this?

You make it sound as if £5K a week is nothing. Well if this is the case, why did our wonderful board at the time not pay this nothing amount. Then none of what followed would have occured.

And please stop the mantra of 'we Gooners hate him'. It simply is not the case that all Gooners hate him. Many of my mates think he is OK. They can see how we tried to take the piss in transfer negotiations, and we ended up the loser.
If we had kept Ashley, paid him properly, we would have won a couple of trophies in the last six years. Instead we have a squad of primarily losers that will never win anything.

Are you going to tell me that you didn't hold resentment towards him when he left?

Or, far more likely, is it just that you're so anti-Wenger and anti-board now that you'll align yourself with anybody who disagrees with them?

The club fucked up, no doubt. But to suggest Cole was justified in his actions is fucking bollocks. And people suggest that Cole 'saw what was coming', as if he and they knew in January 2005 that we were going to go the way we have.

No, I would never say that Cole meeting up with Chelsea was acceptable. He should have just put a transfer request in. I am just saying that Ashley was a good player for us and we shafted him. In other words, WE caused this problem, not him.

[A dallying Gus Caesar]

We would have won the league in 2008 if Cashley was playing left back. Calamity Clichy cost us that tropy on THAT day in Birmingham and I for one will never, EVER forgive the bastard for it.

Spot on.

[A dallying Gus Caesar]

Interestingly, he was the only player, past or present, to attend Amanada Docherty's leaving do at the stadium a few years ago.

Yes, and I remember when he put his car up for auction when Rocky died to raise money for charity. Suffice to say the car was not a run of the mill Punto and raised thousands! Sounds a shocking bloke.

[A dallying Gus Caesar]

Obviously, we Gooners hate him because all he ever did was talk up being a Gooner from the terraces that made good at The Arsenal (alluding to being the modern Charlie George) and then he fucked us over £5K a week extra. The usual one dimensional Anti-Wenger argument will be raised but it doesn't wash in this case - Cuntley left over money and money alone but some people can't see past their hatred of Wenger and accept that. Cuntley had secret meetings touting himself to the chavs behind The Arsenal's back, proved he was a selfish lying little toe-rag by jumping ship over an extra £5K a week (how much fucking money does one need to play football at the club they supposedly love?) and then you add all the other stuff to this and you get a dirty little chav toe rag.

????????

Sorry bit confused here. WE, the Arsenal, shaft Ashley over £5 piddling K a week, yet Ashley is the problem in all this?

You make it sound as if £5K a week is nothing. Well if this is the case, why did our wonderful board at the time not pay this nothing amount. Then none of what followed would have occured.

And please stop the mantra of 'we Gooners hate him'. It simply is not the case that all Gooners hate him. Many of my mates think he is OK. They can see how we tried to take the piss in transfer negotiations, and we ended up the loser.
If we had kept Ashley, paid him properly, we would have won a couple of trophies in the last six years. Instead we have a squad of primarily losers that will never win anything.

Are you going to tell me that you didn't hold resentment towards him when he left?

Or, far more likely, is it just that you're so anti-Wenger and anti-board now that you'll align yourself with anybody who disagrees with them?

The club fucked up, no doubt. But to suggest Cole was justified in his actions is fucking bollocks. And people suggest that Cole 'saw what was coming', as if he and they knew in January 2005 that we were going to go the way we have.

Agreed 100%. All this bollocks about "Cashley saw what was coming at the Arsenal". Fucking rubbish. The little crunt left over one thing; money.

As the best left back in the world I can see why Ashley was so out of order asking for a salary that just might have befit him. How very greedy!

I sometimes get the impression that alot of our fans are actually more obsessed by money that Ashley.

[DB10GOONER]

Obviously, we Gooners hate him because all he ever did was talk up being a Gooner from the terraces that made good at The Arsenal (alluding to being the modern Charlie George) and then he fucked us over £5K a week extra. The usual one dimensional Anti-Wenger argument will be raised but it doesn't wash in this case - Cuntley left over money and money alone but some people can't see past their hatred of Wenger and accept that. Cuntley had secret meetings touting himself to the chavs behind The Arsenal's back, proved he was a selfish lying little toe-rag by jumping ship over an extra £5K a week (how much fucking money does one need to play football at the club they supposedly love?) and then you add all the other stuff to this and you get a dirty little chav toe rag.

????????

Sorry bit confused here. WE, the Arsenal, shaft Ashley over £5 piddling K a week, yet Ashley is the problem in all this?

You make it sound as if £5K a week is nothing. Well if this is the case, why did our wonderful board at the time not pay this nothing amount. Then none of what followed would have occured.

And please stop the mantra of 'we Gooners hate him'. It simply is not the case that all Gooners hate him. Many of my mates think he is OK. They can see how we tried to take the piss in transfer negotiations, and we ended up the loser.
If we had kept Ashley, paid him properly, we would have won a couple of trophies in the last six years. Instead we have a squad of primarily losers that will never win anything.

How did we shaft him over 5K a week? He wanted the extra 5K a week to pay his agent. Dein offered Cuntley £55,000 a week plus commission and an Executive Box at the club's new stadium. Cuntley demanded the extra 5K a week for his agent and Arsenal rightly refused when they learned of it. Cuntley then met the Chavs behind our club’s back, breaching FAPL rules and the trust that Arsenal (the club that developed him as a star player and were employing him at the time) placed in him. Let’s not forget that the little toe rag still had two and a half years to run of a five-year contract when he met them.

And what “mantra”? I’ve yet to meet a Gooner that doesn’t hate Cuntley. Most can admit he is a quality player but yet to meet one that doesn’t think he’s a prick. But hey – you and a few of your mates “think he’s ok”, so all is forgiven.
And it’s absolute stupidity to claim if we had kept him we would have won a couple of trophies in the last 6 years! How! He’s ONE player. Our problems run much deeper than just left back ffs.

Cuntley was the one that held secret meetings with the chavs whilst still a contracted Arsenal player. He did this for one reason; greed. Anyone that thinks Cashley is innocent or was somehow “wronged” is fucking deluded.

[DB10GOONER]

Obviously, we Gooners hate him because all he ever did was talk up being a Gooner from the terraces that made good at The Arsenal (alluding to being the modern Charlie George) and then he fucked us over £5K a week extra. The usual one dimensional Anti-Wenger argument will be raised but it doesn't wash in this case - Cuntley left over money and money alone but some people can't see past their hatred of Wenger and accept that. Cuntley had secret meetings touting himself to the chavs behind The Arsenal's back, proved he was a selfish lying little toe-rag by jumping ship over an extra £5K a week (how much fucking money does one need to play football at the club they supposedly love?) and then you add all the other stuff to this and you get a dirty little chav toe rag.

????????

Sorry bit confused here. WE, the Arsenal, shaft Ashley over £5 piddling K a week, yet Ashley is the problem in all this?

You make it sound as if £5K a week is nothing. Well if this is the case, why did our wonderful board at the time not pay this nothing amount. Then none of what followed would have occured.

And please stop the mantra of 'we Gooners hate him'. It simply is not the case that all Gooners hate him. Many of my mates think he is OK. They can see how we tried to take the piss in transfer negotiations, and we ended up the loser.
If we had kept Ashley, paid him properly, we would have won a couple of trophies in the last six years. Instead we have a squad of primarily losers that will never win anything.

Are you going to tell me that you didn't hold resentment towards him when he left?

Or, far more likely, is it just that you're so anti-Wenger and anti-board now that you'll align yourself with anybody who disagrees with them?

The club fucked up, no doubt. But to suggest Cole was justified in his actions is fucking bollocks. And people suggest that Cole 'saw what was coming', as if he and they knew in January 2005 that we were going to go the way we have.

Agreed 100%. All this bollocks about "Cashley saw what was coming at the Arsenal". Fucking rubbish. The little crunt left over one thing; money.

As the best left back in the world I can see why Ashley was so out of order asking for a salary that just might have befit him. How very greedy!

I sometimes get the impression that alot of our fans are actually more obsessed by money that Ashley.

At the time he wasn't the best left back in the world. He was a very good left back that developed into one of the best with experience but he wasn't the best back then. The point you seem to be missing is he talked himself up as Arsenal through and through, loyal to Arsenal, even stated if he left he'd have to go abroad to play as he couldn't play against his beloved Arsenal. But he had no problem leaving over a bit of extra money. Not saying 5K a week is nothing but when you are offered 55K a week to play for the club you supposedly love, is an extra 5K going to be the thing that decides you?

The point is he is a lying treacherous odious little rat. And THAT is part of why he is so hated.

[safcftm]

Not having a pop at you here Mackem (and I know I'm generalising your post), but I never understand this line of defence. Other people cheat on their wife so he is not wrong for cheating on his wife? Pol Pot (Cuntley Cole) wasn't that bad because Hitler (ChavTerry) was far worse? For me Pol Pot was still a kaaaaant!!

That's not what I'm saying though, I'm not saying he isn't a bit wrong for cheating on his wife, I'm saying that it is a very minor transgression in the grand scheme of things and that the amount of stick he gets for it is hugely disproportionate. Shit loads of the people who boo Ashley Cole will have done the exact same thing, he's a footballer not an angel, I couldn't give a fuck if he shags around and I don't see why anyone would, especially football fans who (to generalise as well) are often loutish pisshead lads who'd shag anything that moves, he's free to sleep with whoever he wants and I don't think its anyone's business to moralise about it.

Equally if this is one of his "worst" misdemeanors then I don't understand why the booing for him in particular, shit loads of footballers cheat on their women, why aren't they booed as well? For the amount of abuse he gets you'd think he was doing worse than just being unfaithful to his wife!

[rodders999]

And it’s absolute stupidity to claim if we had kept him we would have won a couple of trophies in the last 6 years! How! He’s ONE player. Our problems run much deeper than just left back ffs.

Maybe it's being overly simplistic but Calamity Clichy and his brainfuck in 2008 still haunts me. My gut tellls me if we'd won at Birmingham (which we would have only for than mong ) we'd have gone on to win the title. Without doubt the most traumatic league game watching The Arsenal for me.

[Bradywasking]

And it’s absolute stupidity to claim if we had kept him we would have won a couple of trophies in the last 6 years! How! He’s ONE player. Our problems run much deeper than just left back ffs.

Maybe it's being overly simplistic but Calamity Clichy and his brainfuck in 2008 still haunts me. My gut tellls me if we'd won at Birmingham (which we would have only for than mong ) we'd have gone on to win the title. Without doubt the most traumatic league game watching The Arsenal for me.

Would defiantly agree that we lost a title there that day. But there were many factors involved, for one I don't think it was a penalty. Clichy touched the ball and the Birmingham player went over his foot. Flamini knocked the ball to Clichy which at that time of the game he should have been putting his foot through it and clearing it unceremoniously. Adebayor should have squared the ball to Bendtnar when two on one on their 'keeper. But Adebayor and Bendtnar were not best of buddies and the pass was never going to happen. Gallas should have galvanized the team after the criminal assault on Eduardo, instead he showed what a after the penalty was awarded. We were only four points off the Champions that season but the points lost at Birmimngham and the subsequent games because of the fragilities after Birmingham would have had us comfortable champions.