Spot on, both clubs are suffering from the current, finance driven era. For Sunderland, Ellis Short doesn't want to invest because you have to invest a fortune just to move a couple of places up the table, financially you're best off just surviving (one of these years, maybe this one, he'll push it too close and we'll go down which will totally fuck his model up).augie wrote:safcftm wrote:No bother mate, I was thinking you might relegate us but if it happens it happens, we've been woeful all season and for most of the last one so it will hardly be undeserved! We should stay up now like but spurs are a worry as they look totally disinterested, might be another twist yet.Henry Norris 1913 wrote:have a feeling we will be sending sunderland down last match of the season. sorry safcftm
would love to see hull go back down where they belong though. they have the mancs last game of the season, could easily be in a position where we beat sunlun but they survive anyway. perfect
If we stay up it'll be a very hollow victory tbh, bored of the whole league, bored of watching about five wins a season and bored of starting a season knowing we can't hope to ever really challenge. I want us to survive because you want your club as high as possible but if we go down I might actually start enjoying games again, this season has been a chore and increasingly I've found myself wishing I'd just stayed in the pub
Are we talking about Arsenal or Sunderland there buddy ?
I think that most Gooners feel the same way about our annual race for 4th place
Arsenal are just a higher level version of Sunderland in that sense, the club seem to think that as long as they can keep getting champions league football it isn't worth spending the hundred plus million to really challenge Chelsea, probably the sums show that it wouldn't earn them a profit. As fans, we agree that football should be able more than that, you can't put a price on winning a title so arsenal fans would happily lose money for a season if it brought a league title. Alas, despite what they may say, fans no longer matter, shareholders are the be all and end all and they just want the profit. But like with us, eventually arsenal will fuck up and miss out on fourth and then the model doesn't work.
Football is just getting boring, regardless of our possible escape, might as well just watch a bunch of spreadsheets running about nowadays, it's all about money and to hell with trying to win for the glory and because it's supposed to be a fucking sport.
