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GoonerMuzz wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:32 pm
I can't understand all this stuff about Lichsteiner being such a great buy, he's 34 not 24, we'll get what maybe two half seasons out of him.

People are so elated over the removal of Wenger they're yet again failing to see the lack of ambition being shown right now, this is supposed to be the start of a new era and yet at this moment i can't see any difference in the transfer strategy from the last one.

Mustafi and Xhaka were both seen as positive additions by most when they first arrived and look how mediocre they have been, and before the revisionists get started go read their threads and you'll see very little dissension over those purchases and i include myself in that.

I'm seriously struggling to see where the ambition lies in a 34 year old Veteran, a 17 year old prospect and if Sokratis happens a player i've seen linked with no-one else :rubchin:

I hope to fuck i'm wrong but seriously this feel so much like more of the same at the moment.... :roll:



We need back-up/competition for bellerin of that there is no doubt - would you prefer a back up with much less experience, or a guy that knows what it takes to win and how importing defending is in that plan ? So what if we only get 2 years out of him - this summer we have bigger needs on the team and hopefully we will address them, then next summer we will hopefully be in a position to upgrade both full back positions. Personally I dont see the point in spending money from a limited budget on bringing in squad players, when our first 11 is nowhere near the required level - fix the team first, and then strength the squad.

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Likewise I wouldn’t rave about him as somebody to drastically turn our fortunes around but he has experience at the top level and a cabinet full of trophies.

Plus he will keep himself in shape and want to play as much as possible, so will genuinely put some pressure on that arrogant overrated shit Bellerin.

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northbank123 wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:52 am
Likewise I wouldn’t rave about him as somebody to drastically turn our fortunes around but he has experience at the top level and a cabinet full of trophies.

Plus he will keep himself in shape and want to play as much as possible, so will genuinely put some pressure on that arrogant overrated shit Bellerin.
He will also hopefully boss lazy bastards about, like Dick Emery said ' he will be good both on and off the pitch' helping train others.

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ds wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:46 am
northbank123 wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:52 am
Likewise I wouldn’t rave about him as somebody to drastically turn our fortunes around but he has experience at the top level and a cabinet full of trophies.

Plus he will keep himself in shape and want to play as much as possible, so will genuinely put some pressure on that arrogant overrated shit Bellerin.
He will also hopefully boss lazy bastards about, like Dick Emery said ' he will be good both on and off the pitch' helping train others.
Yes i like to think he has been brought in as much for what he can bring to the training pitch and the dressing room .Surely his presence around the club can only have a positive effect on our shambles of a defence and also on young players like chambers and holding.He brings experience,a winning mentally and is a leader.He is the sort of signing Mertersacker was meant to be but instead he turned out to be a cowardly plank!

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People seem to forget where we are as a club and the mess wenger has left us in.

It's not fantasy football we must cut our cloth accordingly.

Unrealistic expectations of the change will no doubt manifest themselves in I told you sos and be careful what you wish fors when Emery doesn't do thr treble in his first season... :roll:

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rich31 wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:59 am
ds wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:46 am
northbank123 wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:52 am
Likewise I wouldn’t rave about him as somebody to drastically turn our fortunes around but he has experience at the top level and a cabinet full of trophies.

Plus he will keep himself in shape and want to play as much as possible, so will genuinely put some pressure on that arrogant overrated shit Bellerin.
He will also hopefully boss lazy bastards about, like Dick Emery said ' he will be good both on and off the pitch' helping train others.
Yes i like to think he has been brought in as much for what he can bring to the training pitch and the dressing room .Surely his presence around the club can only have a positive effect on our shambles of a defence and also on young players like chambers and holding.He brings experience,a winning mentally and is a leader.He is the sort of signing Mertersacker was meant to be but instead he turned out to be a cowardly plank!
Key difference met was not a winner at club level. This guy is a serial winner. Having that in the dressing room can only be good.

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That young Adli looks promising or at least from the clips on youtube he does. More than anything I liked his passing abilities. I hope he can do well for us.
For the price we paid if he does well it'll definitely be a bargain.

Good luck, son.

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Anyone believe this story ?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... -rejected/

No ? Me neither :roll:

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the playing mantis wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:32 am
rich31 wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:59 am
ds wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:46 am
northbank123 wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:52 am
Likewise I wouldn’t rave about him as somebody to drastically turn our fortunes around but he has experience at the top level and a cabinet full of trophies.

Plus he will keep himself in shape and want to play as much as possible, so will genuinely put some pressure on that arrogant overrated shit Bellerin.
He will also hopefully boss lazy bastards about, like Dick Emery said ' he will be good both on and off the pitch' helping train others.
Yes i like to think he has been brought in as much for what he can bring to the training pitch and the dressing room .Surely his presence around the club can only have a positive effect on our shambles of a defence and also on young players like chambers and holding.He brings experience,a winning mentally and is a leader.He is the sort of signing Mertersacker was meant to be but instead he turned out to be a cowardly plank!
Key difference met was not a winner at club level. This guy is a serial winner. Having that in the dressing room can only be good.

Completely agree, this signing is not about him as a player so much as starting to reset the whole mentality in the dressing room and by Christ do we need that to happen asap. We need to plug the obvious holes in the team and if a couple of short term buys help with that process then that has to be a positive.

The comment above about this being a new start etc, I hear you but that is only in our heads - as far as the club are concerned it's business as usual simply with a new coach in to replace TOF. There is no change of mindset as to how the finances are going to work, new guy in or not. We have some very good players who we need to see on the park playing within a defined system and while it's tempting to demand wholesale change that just isn't going to happen.

Personally, I want to see how we perform when Dick changes the the tactics and we (hopefully) start to play with a little less abandon and a whole lot more discipline. TOF just wanted to play rush goalie and pass sideways all the time and I can't wait to see how we do after introducing a bit of bottle and a system into the team. I can't believe that an experienced manager like Dick didn't look at our lot and think I can do better than that. You have to wonder what the football world were saying about TOF behind his back as his shortcomings were fucking obvious for all to see.

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Okay what would people being saying if Wenger had brought him in?
Personally, it'll be good if he can mentor Bellerin. Be surprised if he gets in ahead of Hector, unless the plan is to sell the new number 2, which confuses me as why give the traditional RB shirt number if he's on his way.

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Nos89 wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:20 pm
Okay what would people being saying if Wenger had brought him in?
Personally, it'll be good if he can mentor Bellerin. Be surprised if he gets in ahead of Hector, unless the plan is to sell the new number 2, which confuses me as why give the traditional RB shirt number if he's on his way.
Nothing, because under TOF the signing is irrelevant because there is so much more that TOF was negligent about....lack of coaching, spineless defence, year after year of not addressing the DM issue, notes from Ozil's mum, latest project etc etc all remain. Signing an experienced and successful player is just part of how Dick (and Mislintat and Sanllehi) will be bringing a new approach to the team that TOF just wasn't interested in.

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Nos89 wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:20 pm
Okay what would people being saying if Wenger had brought him in?
Personally, it'll be good if he can mentor Bellerin. Be surprised if he gets in ahead of Hector, unless the plan is to sell the new number 2, which confuses me as why give the traditional RB shirt number if he's on his way.
Wenger wouldn't have bought in a strong character like that he liked nice boys and if he did it wouldn't matter as any half decent defender he signed just went backwards under him. No way is bellerin to be sold I think he is seen as an asset with potential to improve by the club however if he doesn't cut it next season under proper coaching I expect him to be moved on.

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Nos89 wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:20 pm
Okay what would people being saying if Wenger had brought him in?
Personally, it'll be good if he can mentor Bellerin. Be surprised if he gets in ahead of Hector, unless the plan is to sell the new number 2, which confuses me as why give the traditional RB shirt number if he's on his way.
if wenger had brought him in then he'd have looked a shell of the player hes been at Juve,but this is Emery,he is somebody who can drill a team,he will look good and bring an air of 'don't fuck with me' which weve been missing under wenger for years and years

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Who gives a fuck what age he is. We are in a transitional phase post-Wenger. If we get 2 seasons out if him to add steel and a winning mentality during the transition then fuck yeah go for it.

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For Fuckks SAKE! -

What a Bunch Of Moaning, Whiny, Whinging, Sour Gobbed, buncha CUNTSS!

Naah Naaah Naah He's too old.....He's too young....he's too expensive .... he's too cheap :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah:



Get used to the idea Wenger is GONE - The system of how he used to choose who signed, who left, who did what, who passed sideways...who started each game no matter How UTTER SHYTE they were because they were his favourites in a team we had long stopped caring about - lead by a manger who had become utterly inept and was nothing short of a mad cuntt.

There is a new manger in place and we have an actual transfer team who regardless of anything - Will sign players we need and they will not pay over the odds for them even in this loadsa money environment that football has sold its soul for...


The signing of Unai Emery came right out of left field .. and something tells me that amongst all the transfer rumours and fake ***** news - a signing will be made that Will Surprise Everyone .... and if not!? So the fuckk What - Some on here seem to have forgotten the utter depths of despair we were in under the evil that was wenger


Small steady steps will see us grow strong and return to being THE Arsenal we all have known and loved since our childhood, to do so they will need to be given time and support instead of people whining and bitching all the time, simply because we don't go out and spend £300 million.. FFS!


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