As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
Dan_85 wrote:Is a manager who wins 7 trophies in 15 years (AW) better than one who wins 6 trophies in 9 years (GG)? I wouldn't have thought so...
Actually it was 7 trophies in 7 years of trophy-winning (1998-2005). GG won 6 in 7 years of trophy-winning. Also remember the couple of doubles that GG didn't achieve although so painfully close in 1991.
Notwithstanding that, who knows what would have happened to GG at the time of bung-gate? I don't exactly seem to remember a team on the up with the likes of Jimmy Carter, Steven Morrow et al.
In 1992 we finished 4th. 1993, 10th. 1994, 4th. 1995, 12th. So let's not pretend that GG (who was great at the time and revitalized the club) was so much ahead of AW.
I respectfully disagree that GG wouldn't have won more trophies if he had kept his job after the bung fiasco.
I don't think for a second that he was capable of building another team that could win the league, but his sides were capable to doing well in cup competitions. Where as Arsene's teams since 2005 have been in three cup finals and blew the lot.
In fairness can you say that a team including the likes of song, theo, rosicky etc is on the way up either ? You are being selective when comparing wenger's record with GG's - surely when assessing the sucess or failure of any manager you have to look at the whole of their tenure and not just selective golden years ? If we are to do that you could argue that bertie mee was an all time great as he won 3 trophies and was runners up in the cup in a very short spell as gaffer.
If anything your selective comparison shows that wenger was indeed a great manager but has been on the slide for a number of years and I will always argue that GG was more successful
I'm not saying that the team is on the way up. But GG's record would have been longer if not for bung-gate, and it wasn't going in the right direction. That is assuming that the board didn't use bung-gate as an excuse to sack him because the team was going down the shitter.
I respectfully disagree, although GG's teams were done as a force in the league, they were good enough to still win knock out competitions. Something Arsene's team have failed to do in three consecutive finals since the FA Cup win in 2005.
just heard on sky sports news that there was a mass brawl on the pitch on saturday, i know we were miles from the pitch but i don't remember seeing that, must have been at the bar when it happened
