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Gunner Rob wrote:Mertesacker comments on the official website
“It is a little blow but if you look back to last year, we lost 3-1 and so we are looking forward to Munich - why can we not repeat what happened last year?
you mean lose again?
We won 2 0
The more i watch it, Robben was not in control of the ball,it was going wide and i don't think he would have made it in time to score!
I'm all for criticising wenger, but I've just been reading this thread...and there's far too much anger aimed towards him. In my opinion, its the wrong game to slate him. For what exactly? for bringing a knackered ox off instead of ozil? it was his last sub so it made sense to me to bring the most tired play off.
He cant control everything that happens on the pitch. Like the Gibbs injury, Chesneys red card, ozils stupid penalty etc.
If he does "a Blackburn" of last season when we play Everton I will be angry with wenger, but I'm not slating him for that last night.
We started better than I expected but why were so poor after the red card?
Imagine the reverse, imagine the first leg was in Munich and their keeper is sent off a few mins before half time and Arsenal miss the pen so the teams go in 0-0. Would Munich have come out in the 2nd half and just offer absolutely nothing at all at the other end?
I know Bayern's players are much better than ours but how long do Arsenal fans have to wait until we have a team to match our huge resources? When do we see the Grade A team to match the Grade A ticket prices?
We were the home side last night FFS! Other than revenue, what are we in this competition for? Is there ever any intention to try and win it?
As we all know, we have well over £100m sitting in the bank but we are still very much underdogs against the big boys because that's how the people running this club choose to have it. And how long can they hide behind the excuse of building a new stadium? Bayern have built a new stadium too and it hasn't set them back very much has it?
As far as I'm concerned we have a manager not fit to manage a club of this size, a CEO not fit to run it and an owner not fit to own it.
loved the atmosphere (especially in the first half) wasn't expecting to win and don't feel particularly that fussed about it today. BUT the thought of winning the FA cup arouses me greatly like others have said, if we don't take the everton game seriously for some game and competition we have no chance in then i will go mental!
Topcat I think he actually set us up well yesterday, and you're right in that its obviously not his fault that Szczesny got sent off and left us staring down the barrel.
But he had absolutely zero idea how to respond to what happened and although it is banged on about relentlessly on here it is embarrassing that in a game like this we are starting Sanogo as a lone striker because of his negligence in the last few windows.
Clash wrote:We started better than I expected but why were so poor after the red card?
Imagine the reverse, imagine the first leg was in Munich and their keeper is sent off a few mins before half time and Arsenal miss the pen so the teams go in 0-0. Would Munich have come out in the 2nd half and just offer absolutely nothing at all at the other end?
I know Bayern's players are much better than ours but how long do Arsenal fans have to wait until we have a team to match our huge resources? When do we see the Grade A team to match the Grade A ticket prices?
We were the home side last night FFS! Other than revenue, what are we in this competition for? Is there ever any intention to try and win it?
As we all know, we have well over £100m sitting in the bank but we are still very much underdogs against the big boys because that's how the people running this club choose to have it. And how long can they hide behind the excuse of building a new stadium? Bayern have built a new stadium too and it hasn't set them back very much has it?
As far as I'm concerned we have a manager not fit to manage a club of this size, a CEO not fit to run it and an owner not fit to own it.
GET THE FUCK OUT OF OUR CLUB ALL THREE OF YOU!!
Besides the fact we had 10 men against the best team in Europe? The same team that annihilated the next best team, Barcelona, in this very competition last season.
Clash wrote:We started better than I expected but why were so poor after the red card?
Imagine the reverse, imagine the first leg was in Munich and their keeper is sent off a few mins before half time and Arsenal miss the pen so the teams go in 0-0. Would Munich have come out in the 2nd half and just offer absolutely nothing at all at the other end?
I know Bayern's players are much better than ours but how long do Arsenal fans have to wait until we have a team to match our huge resources? When do we see the Grade A team to match the Grade A ticket prices?
We were the home side last night FFS! Other than revenue, what are we in this competition for? Is there ever any intention to try and win it?
As we all know, we have well over £100m sitting in the bank but we are still very much underdogs against the big boys because that's how the people running this club choose to have it. And how long can they hide behind the excuse of building a new stadium? Bayern have built a new stadium too and it hasn't set them back very much has it?
As far as I'm concerned we have a manager not fit to manage a club of this size, a CEO not fit to run it and an owner not fit to own it.
GET THE FUCK OUT OF OUR CLUB ALL THREE OF YOU!!
Besides the fact we had 10 men against the best team in Europe? The same team that annihilated the next best team, Barcelona, in this very competition last season.
That and the fact that our hero Podolski was on the bench
Gunner Rob wrote:Mertesacker comments on the official website
“It is a little blow but if you look back to last year, we lost 3-1 and so we are looking forward to Munich - why can we not repeat what happened last year?
you mean lose again?
We won 2 0
The more i watch it, Robben was not in control of the ball,it was going wide and i don't think he would have made it in time to score!
Agreed, you could make a case that Ozil was better position to score when he was fouled for our penalty.
Clash wrote:We started better than I expected but why were so poor after the red card?
Imagine the reverse, imagine the first leg was in Munich and their keeper is sent off a few mins before half time and Arsenal miss the pen so the teams go in 0-0. Would Munich have come out in the 2nd half and just offer absolutely nothing at all at the other end?
I know Bayern's players are much better than ours but how long do Arsenal fans have to wait until we have a team to match our huge resources? When do we see the Grade A team to match the Grade A ticket prices?
We were the home side last night FFS! Other than revenue, what are we in this competition for? Is there ever any intention to try and win it?
As we all know, we have well over £100m sitting in the bank but we are still very much underdogs against the big boys because that's how the people running this club choose to have it. And how long can they hide behind the excuse of building a new stadium? Bayern have built a new stadium too and it hasn't set them back very much has it?
As far as I'm concerned we have a manager not fit to manage a club of this size, a CEO not fit to run it and an owner not fit to own it.
GET THE FUCK OUT OF OUR CLUB ALL THREE OF YOU!!
Besides the fact we had 10 men against the best team in Europe? The same team that annihilated the next best team, Barcelona, in this very competition last season.
Which just happens to be the same team we drew 3-3 with on aggregate* last season
*(albeit with Bayern not taking the 2nd leg seriously enough)
Lots of positives last night - he was willing to change things up front and it really worked - Yaya brought Ox and Santi into play really well and we were hurting the best team in Europe, had we scored the pen it could easily have been 2 or 3 by half time - it was superb.
Its a pen and a red for Chez - its a shit rule but its the rule - ruined the game.
Koscielny was absolutely superb last night, cannot say enough about the player he is becoming, give credit to Wenger for that.
Without the Gibbs injury and the Pen we could have won, we were that good, but in the end the result was reflective of the play and its more or less curtains - but performances of OX, YAYA, Per, Kos against top quality opposition is encouraging.
Bendtners Drinking Buddy wrote:Lots of positives last night - he was willing to change things up front and it really worked - Yaya brought Ox and Santi into play really well and we were hurting the best team in Europe, had we scored the pen it could easily have been 2 or 3 by half time - it was superb.
Its a pen and a red for Chez - its a shit rule but its the rule - ruined the game.
Koscielny was absolutely superb last night, cannot say enough about the player he is becoming, give credit to Wenger for that.
Without the Gibbs injury and the Pen we could have won, we were that good, but in the end the result was reflective of the play and its more or less curtains - but performances of OX, YAYA, Per, Kos against top quality opposition is encouraging.
Agreed Kos was awesome last night. And I too think there were positives to take from a gutsy disciplined performance. But I think leaving Ozil on was a terrible error of judgement and invited Munich onto our left to run at a very poor Monreal who got the sum total of zero protection from Ozil.
If we had scored that penno and kept 11 men on? I think we might have got a 2-1 or a 1-0 maybe. We were excellent in that first 20 minutes. But ultimately 10 men will struggle to keep out the best team in Europe.
How sad is it that so many people are thinking Yaya is doing pretty well........yes he's been 'ok', but that's a real indictment of the crap we've been used to with Giroud for much of the season. Yaya hasn't really threatened the goal at all in two games!! We are so desperate to see someone up front who is a genuine threat and a bit exciting, a perma crock ligue 2 player is actually looking an ok option!!
Fact is, there isn't another manager in the CL who would have dropped their 'no.1' striker for last nights game and put in a young, inexperienced, just back from injury league 2 player, not one. Wonga had to massage his ego and prove a point, regardless of the cost, only he knows best. Why didn't Poldi, or even Barry Bender get a game? They are much more experienced!!
The management of Arsenal stinks, really stinks, because it's all about one man, all about the ego, all about proving a point. We really are watching Arsene FC these days.
You cant blame YAYA for last night, he had no chance once we went down to 10 - thought he held the ball up and made things happen - always worked hard and closed them down.
Im not saying he is Messi but i cant see how anyone can say cant see potential.
BFG4 wrote:I dislike Wenger, more than most, but its silly to just throw the blame at him. We have a 42 million signing, who looked like he couldn't be arsed(even to take a penalty), and a keeper who decided, that it was worth a red card, instead of conceding a goal, a red card that ended the tie. Wenger did make some ridiculous decisions, especially not subbing Ozil, but our players didn't help at all. Il be more pissed more, if we throw away the Everton game, as that's a trophy we can actually win.
I agree with most of what you say BFG but as a keeper you have a split second to make a decision and instinct tells you you're going to try and stop that ball getting in your net. Honestly Chez would not have been thinking "do I just stand here and let him score or do I try and stop an almost certain goal and risk a penalty and red card" he'd have gone in with the intention, rightly or wrongly, of getting something on the ball. Obviously he got nowhere near the ball but that wouldn't have crossed his mind at the time. It was just one of those things and I don't think Chez could have done anything different apart from stand on his line and give Robben an easy finish, and that is never an option
I agree that its a split second decision, and he isnt going to be thinking about the chance of being sent off, but the more i watch it, if he makes himself big, it might put Robben off, instead scez being rash, cost us the game, and more than likely the tie, that is hard to accept, as i think with 11 against 11, we may have grabbed, at least a draw.
augie wrote:Probably a bit of both DB cos you are def a fcukwad
I know that redaction can claim to have originally been set up to improve atmosphere but can it be said that it is still their sole target ? Have they enjoyed being perceived as the voice of the fans since though both in terms of meetings with the club and also when the media (sky) look for someone to interview ? If they are happy to enjoy the perks then surely they have to be willing to take on the responsibilities that come with it ?
Cor, you can make up any old shit you like to discredit REDaction can't you?
Nobody from REDaction has ever been interviewed on Sky - I look forward to your apology.
like others have said, if we don't take the everton game seriously for some game and competition we have no chance in then i will go mental! 
