Anelka getting sent home

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Nothing to do with age, race, religion, anything ..

It's the players against the authority, they are all united against what happened to Anelka, and they ALL decided to no train because of the federation's decision. They are gutted by the fact an argument in the dressing room has been revealed in to the journalist, and that the french federation sack a player - without talking to them before.

some informations:
Anelka is still at the Hotel in South Africa
Domenech didn't leave the training ground with the players

It's seems the france team is now managed by the players themselves and they'll do what they want untill the end of the competition.
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MM99 wrote:
chyren1 wrote:spot on...
it s a racial and religious problem...

but no one wants to admit it...
domenech already knew about those problems and try to contain them by not choosing any player with algerian roots(benzema,ben arfa,nasri)...
but it wasnt enough...the muslim players started bullying the white ones...
and now you see the result of it all...
i love le vivre ensemble... :lol:
Zidane was a muslim and was white :?
Explain that one.
Zidane is a Muslim Berber, French born, Algerian parents.
Ribery is a convert to Islam.

But neither fact precludes that there might be problems because of race and religion.

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Image

Video of the clash between Evra (who is telling fitness coach France players will boycott the training session) and Robert Duverne.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UBwmUXTwuY

Domenech reading the statement written by the players:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhaFIUUwJsY


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qiqn1Znq8E

It's anarchy! :shock: :shock: :lol:
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Just seen Evra had a bust up with the physio aswell, we thought we had problems.

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QuartzGooner wrote:
MM99 wrote:
chyren1 wrote:spot on...
it s a racial and religious problem...

but no one wants to admit it...
domenech already knew about those problems and try to contain them by not choosing any player with algerian roots(benzema,ben arfa,nasri)...
but it wasnt enough...the muslim players started bullying the white ones...
and now you see the result of it all...
i love le vivre ensemble... :lol:
Zidane was a muslim and was white :?
Explain that one.
Zidane is a Muslim Berber, French born, Algerian parents.
Ribery is a convert to Islam.

But neither fact precludes that there might be problems because of race and religion.
There may well be, but the contradiction is in what Chyren said with the "Muslim players bullying the white ones", so how can players such as Zidane and RIbery, who are Muslims, bully the white players when they're white themselves?

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Its an absolute mess. Do the players really think this is the right time to rebel against the FFF? Or do they think they'll get the FFF to back track on their decision to throw out Anelka? Even if they did, would Domenech even acknowledge him? I don't think it is to do with religion because Sagna and Diaby are both Muslims.

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of course it has nothing to do with religion or races or whatever ... it seems the squad are now united (at last!!) and they took some serious decision because they felt betrayed by their federation.

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If you let the players take the power from the coach, as appears to be the case last time out, then you know you are heading for trouble. The question I have though is how the french federation left domenach in charge for this tournament knowing that zidane & co ran the show last time out :? How could any player have respect for a manager in a situation like that ?

Word of warning...handing the reins to zidane would not be a good move either as he is an ego-maniac :roll:

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chyren1 wrote:spot on...
it s a racial and religious problem...

but no one wants to admit it...
domenech already knew about those problems and try to contain them by not choosing any player with algerian roots(benzema,ben arfa,nasri)...
but it wasnt enough...the muslim players started bullying the white ones...
and now you see the result of it all...
i love le vivre ensemble... :lol:
chyren may I ask you to keep yourself from spitting bullshit like this concerning the French players. Plz stop saying things when it's clear you know Jack about the situation.

It has nothing to do with race or religion! Anelka and Ribery for example are as Muslim as benzema ben arfa and nasri. May I also inform you that Benzema and Nasri hates each other since a long time, despite them being from the same "origin" as you claim. Muslim players bullying the white ones??? Where do you get that from? And who are thoses white players you're talking about?

To answer you question quartz, it's quite obvious it's a problem of ego. Those players, regarding they race or their religion are all so far up their own arse that they thought they were bigger than the French jersey... shamefull...

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Here's the official players statement (in french):
"Tous les joueurs de l'équipe de France sans exception souhaitent affirmer leur opposition à la décision prise par la Fédération Française de Football d'exclure Nicolas Anelka", indique notamment le communiqué des joueurs français, lu aux médias par Raymond Domenech.

"Nous regrettons l'incident qui s'est produit à la mi-temps du match France-Mexique, nous regrettons encore plus la divulgation d'un événement qui n'appartient qu'au groupe et inhérent à la vie d'une équipe de haut niveau", indiquent les joueurs. "A la demande du groupe, le joueur mis en cause a engagé une tentative de dialogue. Nous regrettons que sa démarche ait été volontairement ignorée".

"De son côté, la FFF n'a a aucun moment tenté de protéger le groupe", accuse le communiqué des Bleus: "Elle a pris une décision sans consulter l'ensemble des joueurs, uniquement sur la base des faits rapportés par la presse. En conséquence, et pour marquer leur opposition à l'attitude adoptée par les plus hautes instances, l'ensemble des joueurs a décidé de ne pas participer à la séance programmée aujourd'hui".

"Nous sommes conscients de nos responsabilités", indiquent cependant les joueurs, "celles de porter les couleurs de notre pays, également celles que nous avons à l'égard de nos supporteurs, des éducateurs, des bénévoles et des innombrables enfants qui ont les Bleus pour modèles".

"Nous n'oublions rien de nos devoirs. Nous ferons tout individuellement et bien sûr sur le plan collectif pour que la France mardi retrouve son honneur par une performance enfin positive", conclut le texte, signé "les joueurs de l'équipe de France".
in english:

"All players without exception want to declare their opposition to the FFF decision to exclude Nicolas Anelka," it said. The statement added the players were angered the Anelka-Domenech row had become public and criticised the FFF "which at no time tried to protect the squad". However, the players vowed "to do everything individually and collectively so that France regains its honour [against South Africa] on Tuesday".

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And I thought Englands team were a laughing stock. I feel extremely sorry for all of the French fans who have paid thousands to go and support their country only to have it thrown back in their faces by these egotistical so called players who think they should rebel and refuse to train 2 days away from the game which will destine their future in the tournament.

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I just thought it might be worth asking, because we see that France has had social problems linked to race/religion i.e. "Ban the Burka" and the riots in the Banlieus "Les Racailles" remark by Sarkozy etc, so it might have been a cause of trouble.

Clear that players will be playing for themselves, not the manager.

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kingjayson1 wrote:And I thought Englands team were a laughing stock. I feel extremely sorry for all of the French fans who have paid thousands to go and support their country only to have it thrown back in their faces by these egotistical so called players who think they should rebel and refuse to train 2 days away from the game which will destine their future in the tournament.
Don't worry, there's not many french fans in SA :roll:
There was only about 1000 fans at the game against Mexico.

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I find it quite interesting that the players seem to be most upset at the fact their behaviour is being reported in the media, if they were behaving as they should why would they care about the media finding out what they are up to.

I know Domenech is a poor coach and it was a bad decision to allow him to continue as coach knowing he wasn't respected by the players, but what is going on in the French camp for me represents a cancer that is destroying football.

Top players now think the game revolves around them they bleed the game dry financially and infect it with their poisonous attitudes. It's all about them, f*ck the team f*ck the manager f*ck the fans, if they are not getting there own way all the time they will f*ck any one over to make sure they do..

I've had about enough of players attempting to undermine managers, especially when they are not performing themselves, whenever i see it happening i can't help but think of all the stuff i have heard and read about the likes of Shankly, Busby, Stein, Ramsey and Clough with regards the way they dealt with players and the absolute control they had over what was the best players in the world in their day..these guys would be turning in their graves if they saw the way things are now..

The fact the french players have chosen to air there grievances so vociferously once they arrived in SA as opposed to before the squad was announced says it all for me, wait til the manager has no options and then stage a revolt.

If i were the French FA i would speak to Domenech when he gets back just before i gave him his cards, to find out who the instigators and their followers were and make sure none of them ever play for France again regardless of who they are..they need to clean this attitude out of French international football for good...

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of course i m right...
carry on to ignore the real problems...

boloss...

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