
"It's ze board"
merse_10 wrote::awnker:
so bored of this guy now.
scars?love for arsenal?petition?
i'd never dream of going on a penguins forum to question every aspect of the club without a damn good reason.
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.USMartin wrote: Do the research then we'll talk.
You want to engage in blacklisting opinions you don't like. You accused me of being just a wind-up merchant . Back it up now or be a man and admit your accusation was untrue.
Here is what I actually saidQuartzGooner wrote:Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.USMartin wrote: Do the research then we'll talk.
You want to engage in blacklisting opinions you don't like. You accused me of being just a wind-up merchant . Back it up now or be a man and admit your accusation was untrue.
According to you, people who do not sign your petition are gutless!
If you cannot convince another poster of your ideas through standard methods such as logic, evidence and eloquence of your posts, you instead resort to personal insult.
Banging on about "Stand up for yourself, be a man, show some guts" etc.
Obviously you are a wind up merchant.
Post away all you like about the board, but do not expect respect for your attempts at bullying.
Obsessed with multiple anti-board rants on Forums, regardless of thread title.
Which when channelled into action boil down into an obscure petition rather than working with established fans groups.
Whether you are a stooge for a takeover group, is known only to yourself.
Where is the petition mentioned there? Or where do I refer to people who won't sign the petition as gutless. Or is making false charges natural for you. Are you jusrt a liar when the facts won't win your argument?USMartin wrote:Here we go anyone who doesn't trust the Board no matter what they do isn't a real supporter. Gutless is what you are.
Gutless.
WUM, an intelligent one, but, a WUM all the same.USMartin wrote:Here we go anyone who doesn't trust the Board no matter what they do isn't a real supporter. Gutless is what you are.QuartzGooner wrote:You are merely a wind up merchant.USMartin wrote:What a load of crap. Your helpful advice is every bit as genuine as your notion that supporters should lobby Parliament or the EU to ban debt-leveraged club purchases instead fo asking the Board to state that they would not sell the club as part of such as purchase. Indeed that is the sort of thing that would lead one to question someone's moral fibre something I have not in fact done really until now though you state otherwise.QuartzGooner wrote:USMartin, what winds people up, is your insistence on bringing up the matter of "The Board" on unrelated or very loosely related threads.
No one says you cannot bring the subject up on appropriate threads.
No one thinks it an irrelevant subject.
No one is totally happy with the team at the moment, especially compared to a golden era of 1998 - 2006.
People on the Forum have helpfully suggested that you contact existing supporter groups, who have an infrastructure to raise complaints, and an established dialogue with and recognition by the club.
I also suggested low cost ways that you could publicise your concerns through New Media, ways in which your living in the USA rather than London (if indeed you do?) would not be a hindrance.
Instead of taking this advice, you reject it, and go on to berate people who do not share your views for lacking "Moral Fibre" by not flying your anti - Board flag themselves!
Recognise that some people do not share all of your views on the club, and do not see the club as an evil entity, and wish to work with the club for "Reform" rather than against it for "Revolution".
Nor have I actually berated anyone to this point. Argued my views? Yes Questioned other views? Yes but berated anyone? No. That is simply untrue.
Anti-Board flag? Again that is patently dishonest. I have stated repeatedly that I have no problem with the Board seeking to run Arsenal at a profit and even at the Board receiving some of that profit as reward for their work and return on their investment and that I would support the current Board fully if they resumed the sort of investment that had taken place prior to 2005. I have no personal greivance with the Board. I am concerned they are not acting in the best interest of Arsenal Football Club . Its a shame you delibertaely continue to deliberately misrepresent what I say. YOUR moral fibre certainly is in question from me now.
Especially reading this wbit about working with the club for "reform". What is this? What sort of reform? Arsenalisation? Replacing "the Wonder of You?" You can't be serious here. You're the one who tried to discourage me earlier saying the Board wouldn't answer questions they didn't want to and won't answer most questions anyway. But now you say you're working with club for reform? What a sad joke. You'd rather let the Board destroy Arsenal then question the Board because you believe more in the Board and what it stands for now than the club itself . Consider this a berating.
People other than myself actually took time and trouble to give your genuine advice, yet you respond to it with anger!
I do not consider you a genuine fan, nor genuine in your anti board concerns.
A petition?
LOL.
Quite how your are or what you are genuinely trying to accomplish I do not know, but it just reads as if you are here as some sort of equivalent of a Talksport presenter.
Gutless.
Supporters like you will be completely at fault if the club is sold to a debt-leveraged owner or will have hurt the club as much as the Board.
Two can play this game.
The thing is I can look myself in the mirror and know your false assdertion is wrong. If the club is sold to a debt leveraged owner supporters like you won't be able to look themselves in the eye because appraently you didn't liove Arsenal enough to try to stop that happening. Good luck living with that burden.
I have the luxury of hoping I am wrong. Do you?
Again prove it. Its your accusation so the burden of proof is on you. But I do appreciate the "intelligent" bitNaki_Gooner wrote:WUM, an intelligent one, but, a WUM all the same.USMartin wrote:Here we go anyone who doesn't trust the Board no matter what they do isn't a real supporter. Gutless is what you are.QuartzGooner wrote:You are merely a wind up merchant.USMartin wrote:What a load of crap. Your helpful advice is every bit as genuine as your notion that supporters should lobby Parliament or the EU to ban debt-leveraged club purchases instead fo asking the Board to state that they would not sell the club as part of such as purchase. Indeed that is the sort of thing that would lead one to question someone's moral fibre something I have not in fact done really until now though you state otherwise.QuartzGooner wrote:USMartin, what winds people up, is your insistence on bringing up the matter of "The Board" on unrelated or very loosely related threads.
No one says you cannot bring the subject up on appropriate threads.
No one thinks it an irrelevant subject.
No one is totally happy with the team at the moment, especially compared to a golden era of 1998 - 2006.
People on the Forum have helpfully suggested that you contact existing supporter groups, who have an infrastructure to raise complaints, and an established dialogue with and recognition by the club.
I also suggested low cost ways that you could publicise your concerns through New Media, ways in which your living in the USA rather than London (if indeed you do?) would not be a hindrance.
Instead of taking this advice, you reject it, and go on to berate people who do not share your views for lacking "Moral Fibre" by not flying your anti - Board flag themselves!
Recognise that some people do not share all of your views on the club, and do not see the club as an evil entity, and wish to work with the club for "Reform" rather than against it for "Revolution".
Nor have I actually berated anyone to this point. Argued my views? Yes Questioned other views? Yes but berated anyone? No. That is simply untrue.
Anti-Board flag? Again that is patently dishonest. I have stated repeatedly that I have no problem with the Board seeking to run Arsenal at a profit and even at the Board receiving some of that profit as reward for their work and return on their investment and that I would support the current Board fully if they resumed the sort of investment that had taken place prior to 2005. I have no personal greivance with the Board. I am concerned they are not acting in the best interest of Arsenal Football Club . Its a shame you delibertaely continue to deliberately misrepresent what I say. YOUR moral fibre certainly is in question from me now.
Especially reading this wbit about working with the club for "reform". What is this? What sort of reform? Arsenalisation? Replacing "the Wonder of You?" You can't be serious here. You're the one who tried to discourage me earlier saying the Board wouldn't answer questions they didn't want to and won't answer most questions anyway. But now you say you're working with club for reform? What a sad joke. You'd rather let the Board destroy Arsenal then question the Board because you believe more in the Board and what it stands for now than the club itself . Consider this a berating.
People other than myself actually took time and trouble to give your genuine advice, yet you respond to it with anger!
I do not consider you a genuine fan, nor genuine in your anti board concerns.
A petition?
LOL.
Quite how your are or what you are genuinely trying to accomplish I do not know, but it just reads as if you are here as some sort of equivalent of a Talksport presenter.
Gutless.
Supporters like you will be completely at fault if the club is sold to a debt-leveraged owner or will have hurt the club as much as the Board.
Two can play this game.
The thing is I can look myself in the mirror and know your false assdertion is wrong. If the club is sold to a debt leveraged owner supporters like you won't be able to look themselves in the eye because appraently you didn't liove Arsenal enough to try to stop that happening. Good luck living with that burden.
I have the luxury of hoping I am wrong. Do you?
Boring change the recordUSMartin wrote:Again prove it. Its your accusation so the burden of proof is on you. But I do appreciate the "intelligent" bitNaki_Gooner wrote:WUM, an intelligent one, but, a WUM all the same.USMartin wrote:Here we go anyone who doesn't trust the Board no matter what they do isn't a real supporter. Gutless is what you are.QuartzGooner wrote:You are merely a wind up merchant.USMartin wrote: What a load of crap. Your helpful advice is every bit as genuine as your notion that supporters should lobby Parliament or the EU to ban debt-leveraged club purchases instead fo asking the Board to state that they would not sell the club as part of such as purchase. Indeed that is the sort of thing that would lead one to question someone's moral fibre something I have not in fact done really until now though you state otherwise.
Nor have I actually berated anyone to this point. Argued my views? Yes Questioned other views? Yes but berated anyone? No. That is simply untrue.
Anti-Board flag? Again that is patently dishonest. I have stated repeatedly that I have no problem with the Board seeking to run Arsenal at a profit and even at the Board receiving some of that profit as reward for their work and return on their investment and that I would support the current Board fully if they resumed the sort of investment that had taken place prior to 2005. I have no personal greivance with the Board. I am concerned they are not acting in the best interest of Arsenal Football Club . Its a shame you delibertaely continue to deliberately misrepresent what I say. YOUR moral fibre certainly is in question from me now.
Especially reading this wbit about working with the club for "reform". What is this? What sort of reform? Arsenalisation? Replacing "the Wonder of You?" You can't be serious here. You're the one who tried to discourage me earlier saying the Board wouldn't answer questions they didn't want to and won't answer most questions anyway. But now you say you're working with club for reform? What a sad joke. You'd rather let the Board destroy Arsenal then question the Board because you believe more in the Board and what it stands for now than the club itself . Consider this a berating.
People other than myself actually took time and trouble to give your genuine advice, yet you respond to it with anger!
I do not consider you a genuine fan, nor genuine in your anti board concerns.
A petition?
LOL.
Quite how your are or what you are genuinely trying to accomplish I do not know, but it just reads as if you are here as some sort of equivalent of a Talksport presenter.
Gutless.
Supporters like you will be completely at fault if the club is sold to a debt-leveraged owner or will have hurt the club as much as the Board.
Two can play this game.
The thing is I can look myself in the mirror and know your false assdertion is wrong. If the club is sold to a debt leveraged owner supporters like you won't be able to look themselves in the eye because appraently you didn't liove Arsenal enough to try to stop that happening. Good luck living with that burden.
I have the luxury of hoping I am wrong. Do you?. But prove your claim or withdraw it . I can prove you wrong. But I haven't made an accusation so its on you.