As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
supergeorgegraham wrote:Well Wenger has many faults but his main problem has always been defence. Its hard to imagine him having the success he did if he didnt join in 1996 with Grahams defence.
It has taken 5 years for Arsenal to have a good team again (line up vs chelsea and city) but the squad needs changing.
Players like Rosicky, Denilson need to be moved on and I still have little faith in Fabianski while Alumnia needs to go now.
Yes Chelsea had money to burn and now City do but we could have brought in a few more players that were ready and not kids.
We missed out on Van der Vaart who was cheap and even Spurs signing Becks for 3 months will prove a huge money spinner for them and raise their profile so while the team looks good right now its been a crap 5 years to be honest.
Carling Cup means nothing to Arsenal and so what if we win it. A cup that nobody takes seriously is no prize for Arsenal.
United stayed in touch and beat Chelsea to titles. We fell away.
Good post, but Wenger has his way, wherther right or wrong is always iopen to disagreement. Look only at Liverpool, and how forigen owners have cuased chaos. So if it's the FA Cup or Beer Cup this year, then surely that's better the nothing!!!
I think also we should remember we'll going to have the 25 player rule, fursinshed on clubs real soon, this is going to have a major effect on some teams. We would be in a excellent position?.
by MIKE HARVEY I have always been a big fan of Arsene Wenger, since he came to Highbury in 1996. Since his arrival, we've won 3 league titles, 4 FA cups, we've reached 2 European finals and most impressively, he created a team that went an entire league season unbeaten.
The man is a genius. In football terms, as well as academically - and his love for the game is second to none. When you employ someone like this, you've always got a good chance of producing a successful team.
But not only has he created successful football teams, he's also produced some of the best football I have ever seen. The invincibles of 2004 were simply incredible, and excluding Barcelona, it's hard to say another team could match them.
However, Arsene has had his critics - some of which belong to the Arsenal contingent. At times, I feel I can understand the criticism - like his substitutions at times, and more recently, his decision to make 8 changes in the team for the Wigan game.
But, never have I questioned his position at the club.
Why? Because he is the best man for the job. Not only has he created teams that play mouthwatering football, he has made our club financially stable. The investment for our move to The Emirates, has been successful - to say the least.
With thanks to our income (and our ability to sell a burger and drink for £7), we only have a short time left before our debt is paid off and then, we will be able to compete in the transfer market, without having a mega-rich business, to reply on - hopefully!
I won't get into it now but I firmly believe, we are the last club on this planet that needs Usmanov, Kroenke or anyone else to come in. We can, and will do it on our own.
It makes me proud to think that so many managers labelled "class", are walking the tightrope at the moment. While we have a manager who has given us just under 15 years of success - in terms of trophies, footballing style and of course, financial stability.
We may have not won anything in the last 5 years, but we have been building for our future. Despite it being a rather harsh situation for us fans - although I can't say I haven't enjoyed watching Arsenal during this dry time - we will soon return to our trophy-winning ways.
I know that there were some fans suggesting that we should have replaced Arsene last year, with Carlo Ancelotti from Milan. Of course every fan is allowed their opinion, but I can't hold back saying that I'm feeling pretty smug now!
Wenger may not be perfect. But let's face it, no one is - no matter how green that grass appears to be on the other side...
For Arsenal Football Club, there isn't a better man to manage the club.
excellent post, if Wenger was kicked out or left, where would we realisitically be, the repercussions would go on for years.
One area I would like changed would be a stronger Nbr ", not either Rice or Gills.!!
Another big problem with Wenger is that he doesnt act when needed. Eboue is not good enough for Arsenal. He was shocking against Ipswich and lets face it always is.
Wenger gives him a 5 year deal !
Now lets look at Denilson, Diaby, Rosicky, Bendtner. All these have been at the club along time and done nothing at all. No decent run of games where you say "wow they are on fire".
Our best team in the last 5 years was Vs Chelsea and City this season. None of the above played.
Still Wenger will dish out big money contacts to keep these below average players. WHY ?
by MIKE HARVEY I have always been a big fan of Arsene Wenger, since he came to Highbury in 1996. Since his arrival, we've won 3 league titles, 4 FA cups, we've reached 2 European finals and most impressively, he created a team that went an entire league season unbeaten.
The man is a genius. In football terms, as well as academically - and his love for the game is second to none. When you employ someone like this, you've always got a good chance of producing a successful team.
But not only has he created successful football teams, he's also produced some of the best football I have ever seen. The invincibles of 2004 were simply incredible, and excluding Barcelona, it's hard to say another team could match them.
However, Arsene has had his critics - some of which belong to the Arsenal contingent. At times, I feel I can understand the criticism - like his substitutions at times, and more recently, his decision to make 8 changes in the team for the Wigan game.
But, never have I questioned his position at the club.
Why? Because he is the best man for the job. Not only has he created teams that play mouthwatering football, he has made our club financially stable. The investment for our move to The Emirates, has been successful - to say the least.
With thanks to our income (and our ability to sell a burger and drink for £7), we only have a short time left before our debt is paid off and then, we will be able to compete in the transfer market, without having a mega-rich business, to reply on - hopefully!
I won't get into it now but I firmly believe, we are the last club on this planet that needs Usmanov, Kroenke or anyone else to come in. We can, and will do it on our own.
It makes me proud to think that so many managers labelled "class", are walking the tightrope at the moment. While we have a manager who has given us just under 15 years of success - in terms of trophies, footballing style and of course, financial stability.
We may have not won anything in the last 5 years, but we have been building for our future. Despite it being a rather harsh situation for us fans - although I can't say I haven't enjoyed watching Arsenal during this dry time - we will soon return to our trophy-winning ways.
I know that there were some fans suggesting that we should have replaced Arsene last year, with Carlo Ancelotti from Milan. Of course every fan is allowed their opinion, but I can't hold back saying that I'm feeling pretty smug now!
Wenger may not be perfect. But let's face it, no one is - no matter how green that grass appears to be on the other side...
For Arsenal Football Club, there isn't a better man to manage the club.
excellent post, if Wenger was kicked out or left, where would we realisitically be, the repercussions would go on for years.
One area I would like changed would be a stronger Nbr ", not either Rice or Gills.!!
Sorry I just had to pick up on this.
What are you smug about, he won the double last season.
