Spurs Bid £38m for player?

[treygoony]

Being an arsenal fan during the transfer window is like being a kid at school in Detention watching all the other kids playing outside!

Spot on

[flash gunner]

Being an arsenal fan during the transfer window is like being a kid at school in Detention watching all the other kids playing outside!

Well said

[Boomer]

According to SSN, the spuds have had a bid of £38.5m for Sergio Aguero rejected by A. Madrid.

Now Atletico's chairman has a reputation for speaking rubbish in the media in order to pacify his fans but if this is true......

Aguero's just signed a 2 and half year extention today.

[USMartin]

Ok so you have £30 million pounds to spend on a player.

1)Who would you buy for Arsenal?

2)How much do you think you would have to pay on wages a week?

3)How much do you think his wages would increase on the wage structure of the club eg pay increases for players renegotiating contracts in the coming 6 to 12 months?

4)what positive/negative effects would this have on a) the team and b) the player or players he is replasing?

5)Would Arsenal have to change anything about the formation they play to fit the player?

First off whose fault is the wage structure? We used to have a total wage bill of 74 million but Henry and Sol Capmpbell both made 100K a week or better.


The reality the wage structure was conceived specifcially to keep us pursuing bigger money players who might have otherwise signed at Arsenal like Franck Ribery.

The proof is the numbers - Robin Van Persie being on only 70K while nick Bendtner is on 50K. Cesc Fabregas being on 80K a week while Denilson is on 40-50K a week. Now Arsenal would not be paying a penny more in wages if we were using the old wage structure where Van Persin would be ion 100K and Cesc 100-100K and Bendtner and Denilson on 20K each .

The problem is with that wage structure it would be that much harder to justify not signing Franck Ribery which would beyod wages cost the club an extra 15 million the Board quite apparently don't want spent or the current manager would ahve been sacked and replaced with a manager ready and willing to do so.

As for a player worth 30 million why not Moussa Sissoko, can play ijn the Vieira role in a 4-4-2 or the Essien role in a 4-3-3 has size pace skill and goals in him and would not likely demand top wages and could be paid in the 70-90K range.

But again just who devised this wage structure - and more importantly why? And most importantly no matter who you think did so why did the Board through Peter Hill-Wood state yet again that winning trophies doesn't matter one jot to them. It clearly has nothing to do with the club's financial health which is very good unless our Board is pulling an Enron so what is it?

[Boomer]

According to SSN, the spuds have had a bid of £38.5m for Sergio Aguero rejected by A. Madrid.

Now Atletico's chairman has a reputation for speaking rubbish in the media in order to pacify his fans but if this is true......

Aguero's just signed a 2 and half year extention today.

To lock this thread as I said above. Aguero's signed an extention.

[LDB]

As for a player worth 30 million why not Moussa Sissoko, can play ijn the Vieira role in a 4-4-2 or the Essien role in a 4-3-3 has size pace skill and goals in him and would not likely demand top wages and could be paid in the 70-90K range.

Got to pick you up on that one. Only in the fantasy world of bankrolled clubs like chelsea, man city and real madrid is 70-90k a week not 'top wages'.

We may indeed be paying too much to our squad players but you can stick the blame for that firmly at the door of Arsene Wenger who believes so strongly in this crop of players that he has decided to tie them all down on long-term contracts on big wages to stop them having their head turned or running down their contracts.

Arsenal has a real-world (not a fantasy football) transfer and wage budget the distribution of which is heavily influenced by the manager.

[stg]

So NB being paid £20k pw turns the corner and starts banging in goals at a rate of an average of a goal a game and helps Arsenal to win the PL. In September his contract renewal is about to take place how much will he/agent be asking for knowing that RVP is on £100k pw and Fabregas £110k pw?

[USMartin]

So NB being paid £20k pw turns the corner and starts banging in goals at a rate of an average of a goal a game and helps Arsenal to win the PL. In September his contract renewal is about to take place how much will he/agent be asking for knowing that RVP is on £100k pw and Fabregas £110k pw?

We have the money to do that if it were to come to that. If a player s performance earns a greater deal isn't that what we want? But since that is about as likely to strike as a streak ofhumility in the lad I think that is pretty unrealistic

More importantly if he weren't so grossly overpaid now along with several other players and our best players were properly paid for their performance we might be able to add the quality we all want added to the club.

Why don't you want to answer my questions? The reality is simple - a more realistic wage structure would make us a stronger team on the opitch and a stronger squad beneath that team.

If you are worried about not letting the wage bill get out of control you can make some changes. If we had sold Thierry Henry for waht he was actually worth to Arsenal and re-invested the monewy properly that deal could have worked out for as well as it did for him and for Barca. But we didn't.

And given that what confidence do you have that if Cesc gets the move to Barca this summer we'll handle it any better? He is worth at least 50 millionm to us but we'll settle for 30 and because there is that much less coming in ofr him that much less of that will go back into the team - agaiin and you'll tell yourselves it is all down to the manager but won't even -ask why the Board are 100% behind him no matter what - again - and then be frustrated all next year - again - especially as we probably go potless again and Barca or Real move for Nasri who will be as frustrated then as Cesc is now with being an underpaid superstar on a team of overpaid underachievers that wins nothing.

The fact that this cycle continues every year no matter what ands the Board make not a peep of objection or concern doesn't bother people like you one bit does it - at least not until its too late.

[Iceman29]

According to SSN, the spuds have had a bid of £38.5m for Sergio Aguero rejected by A. Madrid.

Now Atletico's chairman has a reputation for speaking rubbish in the media in order to pacify his fans but if this is true......

Aguero's just signed a 2 and half year extention today.

To lock this thread as I said above. Aguero's signed an extention.

I thought this thread was about Kun signing for Spurs. Given that has not happened, we have gone on to discuss Arsenal's wage structure. Why?

[Boomer]

According to SSN, the spuds have had a bid of £38.5m for Sergio Aguero rejected by A. Madrid.

Now Atletico's chairman has a reputation for speaking rubbish in the media in order to pacify his fans but if this is true......

Aguero's just signed a 2 and half year extention today.

To lock this thread as I said above. Aguero's signed an extention.

I thought this thread was about Kun signing for Spurs. Given that has not happened, we have gone on to discuss Arsenal's wage structure. Why?

Hmmm Tell me about it!

Seeing this is the random topic thread:
How many applications do you currently have open?

I've got 7. (Outlook, Excel (x5), pdf, explorer, word, WMP & Sage.

[stg]

We have the money to do that if it were to come to that. If a player s performance earns a greater deal isn't that what we want? But since that is about as likely to strike as a streak ofhumility in the lad I think that is pretty unrealistic

Unrealistic or not it could happen then where does it stop he demands xxxK per week increase, Walcott walks in and demands the same because he set up most of his goals, Fabregas and RVP walk in and what a rise inline with NB and Walcott. Wenger and the board say no all lets loose on the forums because RVP/Fabregas and Walcott put in transfer requests. Arsenal have a set wage structure how many players have left Arsenal because of wages in the past 5 seasons there is a fine line between giving too much or too little but only Arsenal will know if they have it correct or not

[Iceman29]

According to SSN, the spuds have had a bid of £38.5m for Sergio Aguero rejected by A. Madrid.

Now Atletico's chairman has a reputation for speaking rubbish in the media in order to pacify his fans but if this is true......

Aguero's just signed a 2 and half year extention today.

To lock this thread as I said above. Aguero's signed an extention.

I thought this thread was about Kun signing for Spurs. Given that has not happened, we have gone on to discuss Arsenal's wage structure. Why?

Hmmm Tell me about it!

Seeing this is the random topic thread:
How many applications do you currently have open?

I've got 7. (Outlook, Excel (x5), pdf, explorer, word, WMP & Sage.

Interesting question that:

Outlook, Excel (3), Word, Office communicator (like MSN messenger), winzip (god knows why) and IE (3). Just shut down SAP

[LDB]

According to SSN, the spuds have had a bid of £38.5m for Sergio Aguero rejected by A. Madrid.

Now Atletico's chairman has a reputation for speaking rubbish in the media in order to pacify his fans but if this is true......

Aguero's just signed a 2 and half year extention today.

To lock this thread as I said above. Aguero's signed an extention.

I thought this thread was about Kun signing for Spurs. Given that has not happened, we have gone on to discuss Arsenal's wage structure. Why?

USmartin.

[Boomer]

Aguero's just signed a 2 and half year extention today.

To lock this thread as I said above. Aguero's signed an extention.

I thought this thread was about Kun signing for Spurs. Given that has not happened, we have gone on to discuss Arsenal's wage structure. Why?

Hmmm Tell me about it!

Seeing this is the random topic thread:
How many applications do you currently have open?

I've got 7. (Outlook, Excel (x5), pdf, explorer, word, WMP & Sage.

Interesting question that:

Outlook, Excel (3), Word, Office communicator (like MSN messenger), winzip (god knows why) and IE (3). Just shut down SAP

I somehow cocked up my annual leave. I thought I had 3 1/2 this morning. HR said it was 2 but when I queried it she realised the mistake so now I'm on 4 days remaining. Go figure!?!

[stg]

Why don't you want to answer my questions?

But again just who devised this wage structure - and more importantly why?

I was going to answer this but then you said

"And most importantly no matter who you think did so why did the Board through Peter Hill-Wood state yet again that winning trophies doesn't matter one jot to them."

So it now doesnt matter who I think devised the wage structure???

It clearly has nothing to do with the club's financial health which is very good unless our Board is pulling an Enron so what is it?

Perhaps it might have something to do with the clubs good financial health?