Ancelotti sacked

cusamano · Post by **cusamano** » Mon May 23, 2011 8:49 am

Irish Gooner wrote:Rumours doing the rounds they want Rednkapp as manager....

biglunn · Post by **biglunn** » Mon May 23, 2011 8:51 am

AA23Northbank wrote:http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/vie ... -Redknapp/

It's the Daily Star, but make of it what you will

I would LOVE it for him to go to Chelsea! Once he fails there (after 1-2 seasons) his career would effectively be over and we wont then have to see his ugly mug again!

I really think this could happen. First season in CL did quite well - and Chelsea are really hungry for the CL! What a shambles of a club - Chelsea have all the money to be the best in the world and stay there, but Abramovich & Co are just so stupid

Post by **REB** » Mon May 23, 2011 8:53 am

they really are a pathetic club

SpanishJoe · Post by **SpanishJoe** » Mon May 23, 2011 9:11 am

From an Arsenal point of view I was delighted to see Ancellotti go. I think that makes it 6 managers in 8 years.
Any manager coming in won't give a monkey's about developing young players or keeping his squad happy or building something sustainable, he'll buy established players at huge fees, huge wages and he won't care if they can't be sold on or spend the last couple of years of their contract earning 150k pw playing in the reserves, or sulk and shit-stir, because he won't be there.

Real Madrid, a massively bigger club than Chelski, have tried it for a number of years and have won bugger all.
I'm sure Roman's billions will ensure Chelski have good enough players to compete but it won't deliver the dynasty he wants. And one day maybe he'll get bored, or turn his attention elsewhere or one of the other Russian gangsters/politicians will 'deal with him'. Unlikely? Leeds, Man City etc have all been in the 3rd tier.

I wonder if Citeh fans are keeping an eye on the Arab Spring?

Henry Norris 1913 · Post by **Henry Norris 1913** » Mon May 23, 2011 9:36 am

they're best manager since mourinho and the first to win them the double

what a joke that club is

cameron326 · Post by **cameron326** » Mon May 23, 2011 9:43 am

Wenger should stay. He deserves more time. SInce 2006 Wenger has not had money to throw around - its as simple as that . Comparing him finishing 4th with Ancelotti, Ferguson or Mancicn finishing fourth is LUDICROUS. If the board decidd to give the green light - rather than an orangey/red light - to go and spend some serous money and if THEN Wenger fails we can all curse him and call forhis head.

Until then, calling for the sacking of the most successful manger in our history - recognized as one of the top six coaches in the world - who has been operating the squad under severe financial restraints due to the new stadium - is frankly ludicrous.

biglunn · Post by **biglunn** » Mon May 23, 2011 10:10 am

How much money does Wenger need to hang on to a four goal lead against Newcastle?

How much money does it take to win a cup final against a now relegated Birmingham?

Wise up. Put the money aside for a minute. Look at our overpaid squad of losers and our tactics. Money helps, but fundamentally footballing Arsenal is broken, and it's getting worse. I don't trust Wenger spending any money based on the vast majority of signings (the type of players) since 2006.

Post by **DB10GOONER** » Mon May 23, 2011 11:47 am

cameron326 wrote:Wenger should stay. He deserves more time. SInce 2006 Wenger has not had money to throw around - its as simple as that . Comparing him finishing 4th with Ancelotti, Ferguson or Mancicn finishing fourth is LUDICROUS. If the board decidd to give the green light - rather than an orangey/red light - to go and spend some serous money and if THEN Wenger fails we can all curse him and call forhis head.

Until then, calling for the sacking of the most successful manger in our history - recognized as one of the top six coaches in the world - who has been operating the squad under severe financial restraints due to the new stadium - is frankly ludicrous.

I'm sorry but there is just so much wrong with this post I don't know where to start! What evidence do you have he has been financially restrained? Not opinion now, but EVIDENCE. After all, our wage bill is one of the highest in the PL.

I think it is obvious to anyone that isn't blinkered by Wenger's wonderful pre-2007 record that he has built this current team exactly the way he envisions football being played. You can tell by interviews he is genuinely confused that the rest of the footballing world hasn't followed suit and began playing his version of pure football, but rather pick their teams to counter his selections and stop us playing that purist version of football.

The one person that must shoulder the blame for the laziness, arrogance and lack of real bottle in the players is Wenger, just as he must take the blame for the system he has them playing.

woots82 · Post by **woots82** » Mon May 23, 2011 12:06 pm

Just saying, if he really does go all out and make 4/5 key signings, and we end up in 5th spot next year - where the fuck do we go from there?

Magic Hat · Post by **Magic Hat** » Mon May 23, 2011 12:47 pm

Feels like it has been coming for most of the season, once the owner sacked the assistant manager over Ancelotti's head, the manager's credibility was badly damaged. There are questions over his management over the season, keeping playing the malaria hit Drogba and not trying Sturridge is one that comes to mind, but still finished 2nd and after his first season, thought he deserved another chance.

Post by **DB10GOONER** » Mon May 23, 2011 1:26 pm

woots82 wrote:Just saying, if he really does go all out and make 4/5 key signings, and we end up in 5th spot next year - where the fuck do we go from there?

It's a valid point. IMHO there are no absolute guarantees that any signings will make the squad so much better. BUT the key thing is the existing players have proven they are not good enough as a whole and we need to at very least try new players. There are many things that will dictate the success of any new signings. But one of the key things is we need to have the ability and flexibility to change the system during a game. What is the point in playing the same one dimensional game over and over even after it has been mostly sussed out by all and sundry?

It's a bit of a moot point but if Wenger does sign 4 or 5 and they are muck then he must be held responsible for that. It is his job to identify what is needed and then to provide it. He is paid a fortune for doing that job.

LDB · Post by **LDB** » Mon May 23, 2011 4:34 pm

DB10GOONER wrote:
woots82 wrote:Just saying, if he really does go all out and make 4/5 key signings, and we end up in 5th spot next year - where the fuck do we go from there?
It's a valid point. IMHO there are no absolute guarantees that any signings will make the squad so much better. BUT the key thing is the existing players have proven they are not good enough as a whole and we need to at very least try new players. There are many things that will dictate the success of any new signings. But one of the key things is we need to have the ability and flexibility to change the system during a game. What is the point in playing the same one dimensional game over and over even after it has been mostly sussed out by all and sundry?

It's a bit of a moot point but if Wenger does sign 4 or 5 and they are muck then he must be held responsible for that. It is his job to identify what is needed and then to provide it. He is paid a fortune for doing that job.

We also need to restore a bit of competitive edge to the club. If you dont perform for old pizza face then you're out of the club.

Bit of that needed.

selsdon · Post by **selsdon** » Mon May 23, 2011 5:14 pm

woots82 wrote:Just saying, if he really does go all out and make 4/5 key signings, and we end up in 5th spot next year - where the fuck do we go from there?

It will be proof positive that the problem within our club is the manager and the manager only.

Post by **Barriecuda** » Mon May 23, 2011 7:26 pm

Ancelotti will end up back in Italy with Roma. Put a fiver on it.

Chelsea wouldn't have sacked him if they didn't have a strong replacement in mind already. I expect Hiddink to return - which is bad news for the rest of the Premiership. I doubt Mourinho will return with his tail between his legs after getting battered by Barcelona domestically and in Europe this year... he's got work to do and he's already started, judging by his signings of Nuri Sahin and (the other fella who's name escapes me).

Rosie_titters · Post by **Rosie_titters** » Mon May 23, 2011 7:36 pm

the rumour is it's ryan giggs - ooops wrong thread