AW refuses to shake hand after the game.

[Bradywasking]

Wonder why Mr Allen holds a grudge against us?

That is beside the point, Wenger has a history of this and is making a prick of himself.

Sid I agree that Wenger has made a tit of himself before with this, notably with Dalglish last season.

However, I really do not see this as his problem as Allen as a minion of Redknapp has no need to shake Wenger's hand!

Like I said earlier, Allen would have been off with his tail between his legs had we had won.

Really it is a complete non-story and the fact Redknapp didn't back Allen shows this.

I think Dalglish was at fault last season, Wenger reacted to the late penalty and was walking towards Dalglish who was clearly seen telling Wenger to fuck off. I can only remember Wenger not shaking hands twice..with Pardew and Hughes and both of those had allegedly abused him during the games. There was a non story about never shaking Phil Browne's hand but TV pictures proved that wrong.
Wenger is many things including an ungracious loser but why should Clive Allen get the media attention.

[Percy Dalton]

Wonder why Mr Allen holds a grudge against us?

That is beside the point, Wenger has a history of this and is making a prick of himself.

Sid I agree that Wenger has made a tit of himself before with this, notably with Dalglish last season.

However, I really do not see this as his problem as Allen as a minion of Redknapp has no need to shake Wenger's hand!

Like I said earlier, Allen would have been off with his tail between his legs had we had won.

Really it is a complete non-story and the fact Redknapp didn't back Allen shows this.

I think Dalglish was at fault last season, Wenger reacted to the late penalty and was walking towards Dalglish who was clearly seen telling Wenger to fuck off. I can only remember Wenger not shaking hands twice..with Pardew and Hughes and both of those had allegedly abused him during the games. There was a non story about never shaking Phil Browne's hand but TV pictures proved that wrong.
Wenger is many things including an ungracious loser but why should Clive Allen get the media attention.

So it is never Wenger's fault is what you are saying despite him being the common denominator?

[Babatunde]

It really is making me laugh this.
'Oh it was Allen's fault' bla bla.
Even if it was SO WHAT? It shows what an undignified piece of shit Wenger is. I could not imagine Hiddink, Guardiola or Villas Boas getting into arguments with the Spuds kit man. I don't care if 'Allen started it' (how old are we??) the fact is, a top manager with class should be laughing that off and walking away. But Wenger has no class, he is the spasticated kid in class who is so frustrated with his own lack of abiity he will do anything to detract from his own ineptitude.
I don't hear of other managers so frequently getting into ridiculous childish spats with other managers bar Mourinho - and what does everyone say about him? That's right. Classless gimp.

Wenger is dirtying this club's great name it's disgusting. It's bad enough we have such a retard in charge, it's bad enough we have a club of inept mercenaries, it's bad enough we are a shit football team, it's bad enough we have joke sheep fans who put up with garbage.....

But now we have some c*ntwit acting like a child on a Haribo rush. It's pathetic. I don't care who started it we are Arsenal, we are supposed to be better than that.

'The Arsenal Way'

Just rename it 'the Arsene way'. Meaning acting like a fuckwit

[Percy Dalton]

The Pardew/Hughes/Dalgilsh incidents are very different to the Allen one.

Not shaking your opposite number's hand is wimp and pathetic. Not shaking the hand of a relative nobody goading you is something completely different.

[Bradywasking]

Wonder why Mr Allen holds a grudge against us?

That is beside the point, Wenger has a history of this and is making a prick of himself.

Sid I agree that Wenger has made a tit of himself before with this, notably with Dalglish last season.

However, I really do not see this as his problem as Allen as a minion of Redknapp has no need to shake Wenger's hand!

Like I said earlier, Allen would have been off with his tail between his legs had we had won.

Really it is a complete non-story and the fact Redknapp didn't back Allen shows this.

I think Dalglish was at fault last season, Wenger reacted to the late penalty and was walking towards Dalglish who was clearly seen telling Wenger to fuck off. I can only remember Wenger not shaking hands twice..with Pardew and Hughes and both of those had allegedly abused him during the games. There was a non story about never shaking Phil Browne's hand but TV pictures proved that wrong.
Wenger is many things including an ungracious loser but why should Clive Allen get the media attention.

So it is never Wenger's fault is what you are saying despite him being the common denominator?

There are many things to blame Wenger for, but why make an issue of a non issue...So what I am saying is that the twice that I am sure Wenger refused to shake hands he may have had good reason to. Dalglish was to blame at the Grove in my opinion. Wenger has come across as an ungracious man and that is an embarrasment on many occassions, but he doesn't have to shake the hand of someone who insults him. He has shaken the hand of far too managers who have beaten him in 2011.
There are many reasons for wanting Wenger out of Arsenal but to throw this into the mix is wrong. If he was doing it every week then of course it would be an issue.

[flash gunner]

Babatunde yet again your hatred of Wenger is clouding your view on things.

Why should Wenger shake the hand of every member of the scum coaching team? and having quite correctly not shaken the hand of the kit boy or whatever knob'ead Allen is, it was Allen that went to the media and complain like a bitch.

Im no Wenger fan but this time he did nothing wrong

[hugh jardon]

It's all very childish, does anyone really care if people don't shake hands? If one person doesn't like another he isn't obliged to do so?

[Babatunde]

Babatunde yet again your hatred of Wenger is clouding your view on things.

Why should Wenger shake the hand of every member of the scum coaching team? and having quite correctly not shaken the hand of the kit boy or whatever knob'ead Allen is, it was Allen that went to the media and complain like a bitch.

Im no Wenger fan but this time he did nothing wrong

Errrr sorry what are you on about? That's a ridiculous point afraid.
It doesn't matter if Allen is the kit man or not. He was on the Spuds g bench and hence part of the coaching staff. If he is in that dugout nd offers you his hand, you be a bloody man and shake it.

The fact is, this story is now being dragged in the rags because Wenger's stupidity has given them a story. Just shake his fucking hand and be done with it. Allen complaining to the media? The irony is Wenger often goes bitching to the media about things that have fuck all to do with him!!!

Allen was in that dugout. Fergie woulda shaken his hand if offered. Villas Boas woulda. Most managers with class would have done it.

Yes it's different to the Daglish/Pardew incidents but the point is can you name me one PL manager with such a shocking reputation for consistently acting like a graceless, classless loser?

Course you can't. There is a reason almost every manager in the league cannot stand Wenger.

But yeah...must be blinded by my hatred of the benevolent AW

[g88ner]

can you name me one PL manager with such a shocking reputation for consistently acting like a graceless, classless loser?

Course you can't. There is a reason almost every manager in the league cannot stand Wenger.

But yeah...must be blinded by my hatred of the benevolent AW

What I don't get is how not shaking someone's hand is seen as such a sin, yet foul language and abuse towards a fellow coach/manager in the opposition dug-out is a lesser crime

It makes no sense.

From what I understand, Allen has been a prize dickhead towards Wenger in the past, just like the cocks at Hull, as well as loud mouthed yobs like Pulis and Mark Hughes.

If you've been verbally abused or goaded by someone, then why the fuck should you shake their hand? - As Keown said, Allen probably wanted to rub it in by getting close to Wenger. It wasn't mutual respect Allen was offering, and Wenger, quite rightly, quietly blanked him. And damn fucking right he was too.

It's no coincidence that it's the loud mouthed bully managers that Wenger has these petty incidents with.

It's not about being a bad loser, it's about respect. And I'll tell you what, if someone called you all the names under the sun, I doubt you'd want to shake their hand either.

Yes, we're all pissed off with Wenger and maybe want him to go, by fuck me... the hatred towards the man, even on respect issues like this, is ridiculous. He isn't a bleedin' saint, he's a human being... a human being that doesn't like being verbally abused - WHO FUCKING DOES?

Even if you're not behind him on this, you should at least understand him, surely?

Someone on this thread wants him FINED for bringing the game into disrepute for not shaking that *word censored* Allen's hand?? it's insane!

[mikeyb772001]

Fuck it who cares, the more bad press that old *word censored* gets the happier i am .

I want him to suffer so much he has to quit. So bring on any bad press that cuntwit gets.

Dig yourself a whole old man.

Wanker!

[goonersid]

Fuck it who cares, the more bad press that old c**t gets the happier i am .

I want him to suffer so much he has to quit. So bring on any bad press that cuntwit gets.

Dig yourself a whole old man.

Wanker!

Here here!! MikeyB the voice of reason

[swimmer1]

4 pages long ffs wenger shock the hands with the two dodgy dealers what else does he needs to do can't belive allen is getting so much coverage he is a *word censored* full stop.

[mikeyb772001]

Fuck it who cares, the more bad press that old c**t gets the happier i am .

I want him to suffer so much he has to quit. So bring on any bad press that cuntwit gets.

Dig yourself a whole old man.

Wanker!

Here here!! MikeyB the voice of reason

Nothing beats your dancing comment a while back though.

You know the one

[swimmer1]

Lot more going on at Arsenal and Wenger than worrying about a hand shake with a *word censored* .

[g88ner]

Fuck it who cares, the more bad press that old c**t gets the happier i am .

I want him to suffer so much he has to quit. So bring on any bad press that cuntwit gets.

Dig yourself a whole old man.

Wanker!

I just don't get the hatred. This is more than just wanting him out, it's just nasty and filled with pure hate.

It's sad. I think his time is up as well, but some people go too far.

Some even join the scum in paedo taunts... sometimes, believe it or not, even on this forum!

Just proves that pond life exists at ALL clubs... even at The Arsenal