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[LDB]

im in 2 minds about this match.

if we get beaten heavily we will surely have to take the FA Cup more seriously.
however if we either draw or even a narrow defeat then Wenger will again play a weak side v Everton and a strong one in the return leg v Munich.

our week from hell could then see us knocked out by Everton and then by Munich and then face Spurs at the Lane the following Sunday to stay in the title race

He will play a strong side in Munich regardless, he will be ridiculed if he doesn't. Frankly I think it's all bollocks, play your best available team, stop telling them they're tired and train them less if they are.

[Wengerballs]

You can only beat these krauts with speed. We f*cked 'em 0-2 in Munich last year with two converted crosses from Wally. No Wally this time so were screwed. Draw if we're lucky.

[augie]

If we are to get knocked out (which 99% of Gooners believe) then I hope that we get fcuked over beyond belief tomorrow night - the thought of le cock playing half a second string against everton in the cup quarter finals (the only realistic chance of a trophy that we have) is giving me nightmares tbh. It would be an absolute disaster if he rested players in the everton game (for the Bayern game) and as a result the toffee's beat us, and then go out to Bayern and get beaten over there too - we are not good enough or do not have a deep enough squad in which to do that so the fa cup has to be priority.

Funnily enough I think that tomorrow nights game will be totally different from last seasons game - I believe that fear of Bayern will totally dictate wenker's gameplan and we will play more defensively and hope to be still in with a chance in the second leg. From my own perspective this is an attitude that I'm not sure I agree with - if we are to win then I do believe that we need to at least win the home leg so preventing them from scoring away goals is all fine and dandy but if you don't feel confident enough to stand toe to toe with them at home, then how much confidence can you have when you play the away leg ?

Team selection should be interesting for this one - Chesney, sagna, cazorla and giroud will all come back into the starting 11 but will wilshere, gibbs and rosicky ? Personally I would rather gibbs at left full (than monreal) but wouldn't be surprised to see him on the bench or even start on the left wing I do expect jack to take arteta's spot alongside flamoney in front of back 4 but that will leave ox, ozil, cazorla, rosicky and podolski battling for 3 positions and that doesn't bode well for either the ox or podolski imo

[bang goes the 0-0 draw]

If we are to get knocked out (which 99% of Gooners believe) then I hope that we get fcuked over beyond belief tomorrow night - the thought of le cock playing half a second string against everton in the cup quarter finals (the only realistic chance of a trophy that we have) is giving me nightmares tbh. It would be an absolute disaster if he rested players in the everton game (for the Bayern game) and as a result the toffee's beat us, and then go out to Bayern and get beaten over there too - we are not good enough or do not have a deep enough squad in which to do that so the fa cup has to be priority.

Funnily enough I think that tomorrow nights game will be totally different from last seasons game - I believe that fear of Bayern will totally dictate wenker's gameplan and we will play more defensively and hope to be still in with a chance in the second leg. From my own perspective this is an attitude that I'm not sure I agree with - if we are to win then I do believe that we need to at least win the home leg so preventing them from scoring away goals is all fine and dandy but if you don't feel confident enough to stand toe to toe with them at home, then how much confidence can you have when you play the away leg ?

Team selection should be interesting for this one - Chesney, sagna, cazorla and giroud will all come back into the starting 11 but will wilshere, gibbs and rosicky ? Personally I would rather gibbs at left full (than monreal) but wouldn't be surprised to see him on the bench or even start on the left wing I do expect jack to take arteta's spot alongside flamoney in front of back 4 but that will leave ox, ozil, cazorla, rosicky and podolski battling for 3 positions and that doesn't bode well for either the ox or podolski imo

Aaaaaaaand the rest of your post becomes invalid.

Jesus Christ

[kiwomya]

I'll be happy as along as we turn up and give it a go. If we don't then the scoreline could be frightening - and that's at home.

Interesting to see if the Ox fits into the starting line up or not. Decent player to have on the bench if he doesn't start though.

[kiwomya]

If we are to get knocked out (which 99% of Gooners believe) then I hope that we get fcuked over beyond belief tomorrow night - the thought of le cock playing half a second string against everton in the cup quarter finals (the only realistic chance of a trophy that we have) is giving me nightmares tbh. It would be an absolute disaster if he rested players in the everton game (for the Bayern game) and as a result the toffee's beat us, and then go out to Bayern and get beaten over there too - we are not good enough or do not have a deep enough squad in which to do that so the fa cup has to be priority.

Funnily enough I think that tomorrow nights game will be totally different from last seasons game - I believe that fear of Bayern will totally dictate wenker's gameplan and we will play more defensively and hope to be still in with a chance in the second leg. From my own perspective this is an attitude that I'm not sure I agree with - if we are to win then I do believe that we need to at least win the home leg so preventing them from scoring away goals is all fine and dandy but if you don't feel confident enough to stand toe to toe with them at home, then how much confidence can you have when you play the away leg ?

Team selection should be interesting for this one - Chesney, sagna, cazorla and giroud will all come back into the starting 11 but will wilshere, gibbs and rosicky ? Personally I would rather gibbs at left full (than monreal) but wouldn't be surprised to see him on the bench or even start on the left wing I do expect jack to take arteta's spot alongside flamoney in front of back 4 but that will leave ox, ozil, cazorla, rosicky and podolski battling for 3 positions and that doesn't bode well for either the ox or podolski imo

Aaaaaaaand the rest of your post becomes invalid.

Jesus Christ

People probably do the same with mine but I must admit I skim over a lot of the posts now. The need to over exaggerate to the extreme get's tiring.

[DB10GOONER]

Have to say I also believe we should prioritise the FA Cup at this stage. We have no hope of winning the CL, but a reasonably good chance to win the FA Cup.

As for the match I think we'll either get tonked home and away or we might shock them with a 1-0 home win and then go out in the away leg 3-1 and Arsene will sell it as a plucky victory in defeat... either way I cannot see us getting past Bayern.

Interestingly, the "weakened" team (7 changes?) we put out on Sunday gave a far better account against the mousers than our supposed first 11 did the week before. We looked quicker, more aggressive and confident. Who's to say putting out the same 11 as Sunday against the toffees wouldn't work again?

[augie]

If we are to get knocked out (which 99% of Gooners believe) then I hope that we get fcuked over beyond belief tomorrow night - the thought of le cock playing half a second string against everton in the cup quarter finals (the only realistic chance of a trophy that we have) is giving me nightmares tbh. It would be an absolute disaster if he rested players in the everton game (for the Bayern game) and as a result the toffee's beat us, and then go out to Bayern and get beaten over there too - we are not good enough or do not have a deep enough squad in which to do that so the fa cup has to be priority.

Funnily enough I think that tomorrow nights game will be totally different from last seasons game - I believe that fear of Bayern will totally dictate wenker's gameplan and we will play more defensively and hope to be still in with a chance in the second leg. From my own perspective this is an attitude that I'm not sure I agree with - if we are to win then I do believe that we need to at least win the home leg so preventing them from scoring away goals is all fine and dandy but if you don't feel confident enough to stand toe to toe with them at home, then how much confidence can you have when you play the away leg ?

Team selection should be interesting for this one - Chesney, sagna, cazorla and giroud will all come back into the starting 11 but will wilshere, gibbs and rosicky ? Personally I would rather gibbs at left full (than monreal) but wouldn't be surprised to see him on the bench or even start on the left wing I do expect jack to take arteta's spot alongside flamoney in front of back 4 but that will leave ox, ozil, cazorla, rosicky and podolski battling for 3 positions and that doesn't bode well for either the ox or podolski imo

Aaaaaaaand the rest of your post becomes invalid.

Jesus Christ

And as sure as night follows day there is always some unintelligent clown who reads the first line and interprets as a "I hope we lose" statement The day I need you to validate my opinions I will give you a call

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

If we are to get knocked out (which 99% of Gooners believe) then I hope that we get fcuked over beyond belief tomorrow night - the thought of le cock playing half a second string against everton in the cup quarter finals (the only realistic chance of a trophy that we have) is giving me nightmares tbh. It would be an absolute disaster if he rested players in the everton game (for the Bayern game) and as a result the toffee's beat us, and then go out to Bayern and get beaten over there too - we are not good enough or do not have a deep enough squad in which to do that so the fa cup has to be priority.

Funnily enough I think that tomorrow nights game will be totally different from last seasons game - I believe that fear of Bayern will totally dictate wenker's gameplan and we will play more defensively and hope to be still in with a chance in the second leg. From my own perspective this is an attitude that I'm not sure I agree with - if we are to win then I do believe that we need to at least win the home leg so preventing them from scoring away goals is all fine and dandy but if you don't feel confident enough to stand toe to toe with them at home, then how much confidence can you have when you play the away leg ?

Team selection should be interesting for this one - Chesney, sagna, cazorla and giroud will all come back into the starting 11 but will wilshere, gibbs and rosicky ? Personally I would rather gibbs at left full (than monreal) but wouldn't be surprised to see him on the bench or even start on the left wing I do expect jack to take arteta's spot alongside flamoney in front of back 4 but that will leave ox, ozil, cazorla, rosicky and podolski battling for 3 positions and that doesn't bode well for either the ox or podolski imo

Aaaaaaaand the rest of your post becomes invalid.

Jesus Christ

And as sure as night follows day there is always some unintelligent clown who reads the first line and interprets as a "I hope we lose" statement The day I need you to validate my opinions I will give you a call

Fight fight fight

I can see you two meeting after school with your mates all behind you and then nothing happens until your best mate (a bit of a stirrer) then offered to take your jacket, once that happens there's no turning back (the fucker ), you just gotta get to the other guy while he is half way taking his jacket off

Don't worry bangoes, I've seen Augie play football, just stand still, he's gonna miss

[bang goes the 0-0 draw]

If we are to get knocked out (which 99% of Gooners believe) then I hope that we get fcuked over beyond belief tomorrow night - the thought of le cock playing half a second string against everton in the cup quarter finals (the only realistic chance of a trophy that we have) is giving me nightmares tbh. It would be an absolute disaster if he rested players in the everton game (for the Bayern game) and as a result the toffee's beat us, and then go out to Bayern and get beaten over there too - we are not good enough or do not have a deep enough squad in which to do that so the fa cup has to be priority.

Funnily enough I think that tomorrow nights game will be totally different from last seasons game - I believe that fear of Bayern will totally dictate wenker's gameplan and we will play more defensively and hope to be still in with a chance in the second leg. From my own perspective this is an attitude that I'm not sure I agree with - if we are to win then I do believe that we need to at least win the home leg so preventing them from scoring away goals is all fine and dandy but if you don't feel confident enough to stand toe to toe with them at home, then how much confidence can you have when you play the away leg ?

Team selection should be interesting for this one - Chesney, sagna, cazorla and giroud will all come back into the starting 11 but will wilshere, gibbs and rosicky ? Personally I would rather gibbs at left full (than monreal) but wouldn't be surprised to see him on the bench or even start on the left wing I do expect jack to take arteta's spot alongside flamoney in front of back 4 but that will leave ox, ozil, cazorla, rosicky and podolski battling for 3 positions and that doesn't bode well for either the ox or podolski imo

Aaaaaaaand the rest of your post becomes invalid.

Jesus Christ

And as sure as night follows day there is always some unintelligent clown who reads the first line and interprets as a "I hope we lose" statement The day I need you to validate my opinions I will give you a call

You would rather lose 8-0 than 1-0 so that we have no chance in the second leg and then can rest players for the Everton game. It took me a while for me and my crew of clowns to get it but we got there in the end!

The "greater good" theory and all that jazz. Look I'd rather only lose 1-0 and still have a chance in the second leg. Like you said no one really thinks we can go through but the idea of us getting "fcuked over beyond belief" doesn't sit well with me.

I'd take it one game at a time before you start thinking about how Wenger is going to rest the players for the second leg. I'm not even a wenger fan and I'm not getting worked up about a match 3 games down the line

[Top Londoner]

I am interested in a 3-1 win for us.

Stranger things have happened.

WENGER OUT

[Ryanswannell]

You would rather lose 8-0 than 1-0 so that we have no chance in the second leg and then can rest players for the Everton game. It took me a while for me and my crew of clowns to get it but we got there in the end!

The "greater good" theory and all that jazz. Look I'd rather only lose 1-0 and still have a chance in the second leg. Like you said no one really thinks we can go through but the idea of us getting "fcuked over beyond belief" doesn't sit well with me.

I'd take it one game at a time before you start thinking about how Wenger is going to rest the players for the second leg. I'm not even a wenger fan and I'm not getting worked up about a match 3 games down the line

Well said, who in their right mind would rather a huge drubbing to a 1-0 loss? That will just fuck with the teams confidence even more which makes a loss against the next team we play more likely. And I don't know about everyone else, but that loss against Liverpool would have been less painful had it finished 2-1, and we might then have had more of a go at Utd the other day. But because we let in so many goals against Liverpool, everyone was scared to push forward in fear of conceding.

Anyway, I'm a little more confident this year against these than I was last year, so let's hope the team feels that way. I'm interested to see who will start up front after Giroud's current affairs ( ). Wenger will probably still start him because that's all he does, but if not I'm hoping Podolski plays ST as opposed to Bendtner or Sanogo.
I looked on another Arsenal forum last night and the amount of people saying they would start Sanogo was shocking . Now I missed the Liverpool game due to work, but don't we think it's a bit early to do that? Maybe he looked O.K against Liverpool's defence but is he really going to do any damage against Munich's? I doubt it.

[augie]

My stance is this.....if le cock gave a commitment that he will play his strongest team in the cup game v everton, regardless of how tomorrow night's game goes, then I would want to win tomorrow night and that is for certain but seeing as he made 7 changes last sunday, I would fully expect him to "rotate" ( ) again v everton and to get knocked out would be absolutely criminal

LDB, said that he supported the theory of playing your strongest 11 in the next game regardless of what the game is and who the opposition are, but history shows us that wenker prioritises the cup we cant win over the cup that we can win

[Sam59]

assuming that we only get 2 or 3 chances all night, we need our most clinical finishers in the side. Sadly the Sleeping Bag will bench Poldi and Ox. I think Ox will get on - 70th minute. But if he does dazzle them with speed and gets to the area, he'll have only big Olly to pick out.
Bayern have an incredible LB but not world beating RB or CBs so we need to get at them. I want that oversized arrogant keeper of theirs to fish the ball out of his own net a few times.

[I Hate Hleb]

This is what I don't understand augie: You should want us to win REGARDLESS!!