As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
wilko49er wrote:League title any day. CL s a load of bollocks, money making rubbish. How can any team that doesnt win their own league be part of a competition that refers too "champions" This competition lost its credibility when they got rid of the European cup knock out format. Bring it back i say, and get rid of the CL bollocks.
Here Here (or is it Hear Hear ? I've never been sure)......
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wilko49er wrote:League title any day. CL s a load of bollocks, money making rubbish. How can any team that doesnt win their own league be part of a competition that refers too "champions" This competition lost its credibility when they got rid of the European cup knock out format. Bring it back i say, and get rid of the CL bollocks.
Here Here (or is it Hear Hear ? I've never been sure)......
Hear, hear (usually with a comma and set apart as a self-contained sentence) is the conventional spelling of the colloquial exclamation used to express approval for a speaker or sentiment.
Clash wrote:
Here Here (or is it Hear Hear ? I've never been sure)......
Hear, hear (usually with a comma and set apart as a self-contained sentence) is the conventional spelling of the colloquial exclamation used to express approval for a speaker or sentiment.
Thanks very much, nice to finally have it clarified once and for all
wilko49er wrote:League title any day. CL s a load of bollocks, money making rubbish. How can any team that doesnt win their own league be part of a competition that refers too "champions" This competition lost its credibility when they got rid of the European cup knock out format. Bring it back i say, and get rid of the CL bollocks.
Here Here (or is it Hear Hear ? I've never been sure)......
Hear, hear (usually with a comma and set apart as a self-contained sentence) is the conventional spelling of the colloquial exclamation used to express approval for a speaker or sentiment.
wilko49er wrote:League title any day. CL s a load of bollocks, money making rubbish. How can any team that doesnt win their own league be part of a competition that refers too "champions" This competition lost its credibility when they got rid of the European cup knock out format. Bring it back i say, and get rid of the CL bollocks.
Here Here (or is it Hear Hear ? I've never been sure)......
Hear, hear (usually with a comma and set apart as a self-contained sentence) is the conventional spelling of the colloquial exclamation used to express approval for a speaker or sentiment.
Fucking stoners on google...
What else are we supposed to do in the middle of the night while you 'normal' people are doing stuff like sleeping?
donaldo71 wrote:It is nothing short of a disgrace Arsenal havent won the CL.We have won as many CL's as West Ham and they have never played in it
It still dumbfounds me that our teams from 98-06 didn't win it at least once and only got to one final.
And yes, all you Jens lovers, I still blame Lehmann for the 06 and 04 losses against the Whores and the chav$ respectively. Headless fucking clown that he could be on the big occasion.
Wow! I really thought Gooners would want to win the prem (again) more than the cl trophy...well with Bayern to face tonight - we might have a better idea of what is possible....
The league is our bread and butter - and it has been too long since we won it, but I'd love to win the (Be All and End All) CL - Not that we'll ever do it with Wenger as manager, making European matches pointless as long as he is here.
I wonder what the (betting) odds are for a wager of £10 on us winning it this season....I mean the odds before we go to germany and bumhole bayern and then turn over the kebab makers and the other lot...???
Generally speaking, I've always been more interested in domestic trophies than European ones - probably because, when we had season tickets back in the 90s, I'd usually go to the league games at the weekend while my (older) brother would stay out late for the midweek European games. So I was slightly distanced from it, to an extent.
Also, was it Andy Gray that used to babble on about league football being your 'bread and butter'? I always took that to mean that the PL is the truest indicator of your standing in the game, because it's 38 games and you can't hide faults or luck your way into a title. It really is the best reflection of where you're at, as a club.
Thus, I'd be inclined to say that I'd rather we get our house in order domestically first. Let's focus on being the best team in this country, and then once that's achieved, we can use that as a springboard for success against the real big clubs in Europe. For me, the CL is like the cherry on the cake, but without the actual cake itself - i.e. domestic domination - then it would still really just be a 'quick fix': as has been mentioned, Liverpool won the CL in 2005, but it didn't really help them the following season(s), as they were the same old top-six side that they were when they won it. Yes, their fans have great memories from Istanbul, but wouldn't you exchange a great one night affair for a long, successful marriage?
However, having said all that, I voted for the CL. I decided that because we're a million miles away from getting our house in order domestically, and I can't see us moving forward in the longer term for a long time to come - so we may as well just spunk our wads in May and take the trophy, just like Liverpool did. It wouldn't be a marker for any kind of domination for coming years, but it would fix the glaring omission in our trophy cabinet.
The PL is the bigger trophy, win it and you're definitively the best team in the country. You can fluke a CL title whilst being far from the best in the country never mind the continent. That being said for Arsenal, I'd imagine you'd rather win the CL since its the one that has got away and is the one major hole in the trophy cabinet
wilko49er wrote:League title any day. CL s a load of bollocks, money making rubbish. How can any team that doesnt win their own league be part of a competition that refers too "champions" This competition lost its credibility when they got rid of the European cup knock out format. Bring it back i say, and get rid of the CL bollocks.
Completely agree. Don't understand why they would even rebrand it to the "Champions" League.
I want our first CL win to be defending champions of England as part of a League and CL Double similar to Farca's in '06 and '11 and Manure's in '08. For me it's only then can you claim to be the best in Europe.
CL it's not even close. In my time supporting Arsenal we have won the First Division/PL 5 times, most spectacularly in 2004. How do you improve on going a season undefeated.
Then in Paris, Henry clean through on goal (I still have nightmares about that miss), if ever there was a moment that has defined our fall in grace it's this one. We moved to the Emirates the following season and haven't competed in the league or CL since.
So as an Arsenal fan, the CL completes the set for me. I've seen them win everything else pretty much.
I really thought Gooners would want to win the prem (again) more than the cl trophy...well with Bayern to face tonight - we might have a better idea of what is possible.... 
