As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
Herd wrote:Augie may appear not to be in the clique or a day to day moderator but is believed to be the head of a secret cabal known "The Enlightened Oirish " ie those with 10 euros for the leccy meter .
These people closely guard the secrets of the Universe, know where the IRA buried Shergar and moderate the moderators on this very Forum !
They meet in a Pub known as the Grave Diggers every full moon !
To Mess with him and his will result in warts and venereal diseases of an un-specified nature or worse if you venture further down the Finglas road !
You have been warned !
Nothing anyone can do about the last part.
Apparently when DB10 was over here, tarmacing drives or clearing gardens or whatever it was, he fucked all the English women.
Good and proper too by all accounts.
There's probably a monkey deep in the jungle with a cure for whatever shit he's contaminated us all with.
G88ner has been tasked to retrieve it next time he's off back packing round the globe, so there's hope.
Ah, good old days indeed - the 1991 Fuck Crusade in Ingerland. So many babies over there whose first word was "Jaysus..."
augie wrote:Cook I have no issue with you whatsoever but if you want to take it personally then there is fcuk all I can do about that
The way I am programmed is that if a player/manager or whoever, gives my club outstanding service over a period of time then I would be willing to forgive almost anything, but if any person or group do what I perceive to be bad for the club, then it would take a long, long, long time for me to allow them back into my good books - I'm not trying to make excuses for my statements because I absolutely stand by my thought process on this.
The simple truth is that I cannot get the image of the cringeworthy march opposing usmanov out of my head (thanks steve o ) - as I have said millions of times already, my gripe was that the club used redaction for that purpose and ye were happy to go along with it and from that day on I stopped viewing redaction as an independent fans group but just another aspect of the club itself. On the very odd occasion I have heard comments suggesting that there is regret within redaction for that decision but I have never seen it publicly addressed and indeed I have never seen or heard the group do or say anything that will affect their cosy relationship with the club.
My frustration in that regard isn't solely reserved for redaction and I actually stopped my membership of the BSM because of their refusal to tackle "the elephant in the room" huge issue.......the problems with wenker. No group seems willing to stand up and criticise his performance (expect the ast statement suggesting that no contract extension should be agreed until end of season) - I have read all the comments about how the groups are afraid of how such criticism would drive people out of their groups but where is the greater good there ? What use is it if you have ten thousand nodding sheep members but are supporting a club and regime that aims no higher than 4th and are willing to allow an employee to service his own ego before anything else ?
Respect has to be earned imo - when an organisation takes action that warrants respect then I will join up but in the meantime I will sit here alone with my own principles as company
OK - here it is again ; The Usmanov banner was a mistake, and I wish REDaction had never been persuaded to put their name to such a thing ; unfortunately I was not in a position within REDaction at the time to put a stop to it - I am now the current chairman so REDaction have a very definite mission statement and we know exactly what we want to do and exactly what we don't. You can have your opinions, but my problem is with the incorrect comments you make, and I have to keep pointing them out
TheCook wrote:
OK - here it is again ; The Usmanov banner was a mistake, and I wish REDaction had never been persuaded to put their name to such a thing ; unfortunately I was not in a position within REDaction at the time to put a stop to it - I am now the current chairman so REDaction have a very definite mission statement and we know exactly what we want to do and exactly what we don't. You can have your opinions, but my problem is with the incorrect comments you make, and I have to keep pointing them out
augie wrote:Cook I have no issue with you whatsoever but if you want to take it personally then there is fcuk all I can do about that
The way I am programmed is that if a player/manager or whoever, gives my club outstanding service over a period of time then I would be willing to forgive almost anything, but if any person or group do what I perceive to be bad for the club, then it would take a long, long, long time for me to allow them back into my good books - I'm not trying to make excuses for my statements because I absolutely stand by my thought process on this.
The simple truth is that I cannot get the image of the cringeworthy march opposing usmanov out of my head (thanks steve o ) - as I have said millions of times already, my gripe was that the club used redaction for that purpose and ye were happy to go along with it and from that day on I stopped viewing redaction as an independent fans group but just another aspect of the club itself. On the very odd occasion I have heard comments suggesting that there is regret within redaction for that decision but I have never seen it publicly addressed and indeed I have never seen or heard the group do or say anything that will affect their cosy relationship with the club.
My frustration in that regard isn't solely reserved for redaction and I actually stopped my membership of the BSM because of their refusal to tackle "the elephant in the room" huge issue.......the problems with wenker. No group seems willing to stand up and criticise his performance (expect the ast statement suggesting that no contract extension should be agreed until end of season) - I have read all the comments about how the groups are afraid of how such criticism would drive people out of their groups but where is the greater good there ? What use is it if you have ten thousand nodding sheep members but are supporting a club and regime that aims no higher than 4th and are willing to allow an employee to service his own ego before anything else ?
Respect has to be earned imo - when an organisation takes action that warrants respect then I will join up but in the meantime I will sit here alone with my own principles as company
OK - here it is again ; The Usmanov banner was a mistake, and I wish REDaction had never been persuaded to put their name to such a thing ; unfortunately I was not in a position within REDaction at the time to put a stop to it - I am now the current chairman so REDaction have a very definite mission statement and we know exactly what we want to do and exactly what we don't. You can have your opinions, but my problem is with the incorrect comments you make, and I have to keep pointing them out
Well we did have father ted pointing out Augies wrong posts on a regular basis and might I add with great aplomb
Unfortunately he was banned, in fact the more I think about it the more I am inclined to believe Mel Gibson and his theory
augie wrote:Cook I have no issue with you whatsoever but if you want to take it personally then there is fcuk all I can do about that
The way I am programmed is that if a player/manager or whoever, gives my club outstanding service over a period of time then I would be willing to forgive almost anything, but if any person or group do what I perceive to be bad for the club, then it would take a long, long, long time for me to allow them back into my good books - I'm not trying to make excuses for my statements because I absolutely stand by my thought process on this.
The simple truth is that I cannot get the image of the cringeworthy march opposing usmanov out of my head (thanks steve o ) - as I have said millions of times already, my gripe was that the club used redaction for that purpose and ye were happy to go along with it and from that day on I stopped viewing redaction as an independent fans group but just another aspect of the club itself. On the very odd occasion I have heard comments suggesting that there is regret within redaction for that decision but I have never seen it publicly addressed and indeed I have never seen or heard the group do or say anything that will affect their cosy relationship with the club.
My frustration in that regard isn't solely reserved for redaction and I actually stopped my membership of the BSM because of their refusal to tackle "the elephant in the room" huge issue.......the problems with wenker. No group seems willing to stand up and criticise his performance (expect the ast statement suggesting that no contract extension should be agreed until end of season) - I have read all the comments about how the groups are afraid of how such criticism would drive people out of their groups but where is the greater good there ? What use is it if you have ten thousand nodding sheep members but are supporting a club and regime that aims no higher than 4th and are willing to allow an employee to service his own ego before anything else ?
Respect has to be earned imo - when an organisation takes action that warrants respect then I will join up but in the meantime I will sit here alone with my own principles as company
OK - here it is again ; The Usmanov banner was a mistake, and I wish REDaction had never been persuaded to put their name to such a thing ; unfortunately I was not in a position within REDaction at the time to put a stop to it - I am now the current chairman so REDaction have a very definite mission statement and we know exactly what we want to do and exactly what we don't. You can have your opinions, but my problem is with the incorrect comments you make, and I have to keep pointing them out
Of which I apologised for but let me ask a question for clarification purposes........was tim stillman not interviewed on sky sports during the past few seasons ? I seem to recall him being interviewed (with the armoury in the background) and I think it was about wenker's contract situation at that time (though I could be wrong there). Am I also not right in saying that tim stillman is/was one of redaction's main members ? It is on these memories that I made that statement but as I said before, if I'm wrong then I apologise
Seeing as you have pulled me up in the past about not responding to some of your comments, are you going to respond to the playing mantis's question ?
augie wrote:Cook I have no issue with you whatsoever but if you want to take it personally then there is fcuk all I can do about that
The way I am programmed is that if a player/manager or whoever, gives my club outstanding service over a period of time then I would be willing to forgive almost anything, but if any person or group do what I perceive to be bad for the club, then it would take a long, long, long time for me to allow them back into my good books - I'm not trying to make excuses for my statements because I absolutely stand by my thought process on this.
The simple truth is that I cannot get the image of the cringeworthy march opposing usmanov out of my head (thanks steve o ) - as I have said millions of times already, my gripe was that the club used redaction for that purpose and ye were happy to go along with it and from that day on I stopped viewing redaction as an independent fans group but just another aspect of the club itself. On the very odd occasion I have heard comments suggesting that there is regret within redaction for that decision but I have never seen it publicly addressed and indeed I have never seen or heard the group do or say anything that will affect their cosy relationship with the club.
My frustration in that regard isn't solely reserved for redaction and I actually stopped my membership of the BSM because of their refusal to tackle "the elephant in the room" huge issue.......the problems with wenker. No group seems willing to stand up and criticise his performance (expect the ast statement suggesting that no contract extension should be agreed until end of season) - I have read all the comments about how the groups are afraid of how such criticism would drive people out of their groups but where is the greater good there ? What use is it if you have ten thousand nodding sheep members but are supporting a club and regime that aims no higher than 4th and are willing to allow an employee to service his own ego before anything else ?
Respect has to be earned imo - when an organisation takes action that warrants respect then I will join up but in the meantime I will sit here alone with my own principles as company
OK - here it is again ; The Usmanov banner was a mistake, and I wish REDaction had never been persuaded to put their name to such a thing ; unfortunately I was not in a position within REDaction at the time to put a stop to it - I am now the current chairman so REDaction have a very definite mission statement and we know exactly what we want to do and exactly what we don't. You can have your opinions, but my problem is with the incorrect comments you make, and I have to keep pointing them out
Of which I apologised for but let me ask a question for clarification purposes........was tim stillman not interviewed on sky sports during the past few seasons ? I seem to recall him being interviewed (with the armoury in the background) and I think it was about wenker's contract situation at that time (though I could be wrong there). Am I also not right in saying that tim stillman is/was one of redaction's main members ? It is on these memories that I made that statement but as I said before, if I'm wrong then I apologise
Seeing as you have pulled me up in the past about not responding to some of your comments, are you going to respond to the playing mantis's question ?
I have never met or spoken to Tim Stillman apart from perhaps on Twitter - in fact Tim himself has previously made incorrect statements about REDaction which we have had to correct him on. So no, Tim Stillman is definitely not affiliated with or part of REDaction in any way - we are all relatively anonymous and this is by design.
Is the Playing Mantis' question a serious one? If so, then the answer is 'no'.
Sorry ; just remembered - I have met Tim Stillman once - In a boozer in Brighton last year after the cup tie. Nice chap. Interesting you should reference him, as we do have something in common, as per my previous post about joining this fourm simply to defend oneself.
Number 5 wrote:
Nothing anyone can do about the last part.
Apparently when DB10 was over here, tarmacing drives or clearing gardens
There's probably a monkey deep in the jungle with a cure for whatever shit he's contaminated us all with.
G88ner has been tasked to retrieve it next time he's off back packing round the globe, so there's hope.
well that's nice... Send the forums northern monkey in search of "miracle cure" monkey
but you're right, im in Vietnam in April so I'll see what i can find
Well we can't send Wayno can we? He'd fuck the monkey to death before we could extract the cure.
No, better to send in the "friend". Someone the monkey will trust and will be safe in the knowledge that he won't be getting buggered by.
And then when we're done and send the monkey back to the jungle, you can buy it presents and shit even though we'll never need to see/hear from it again.
TheCook wrote:So no, Tim Stillman is definitely not affiliated with or part of REDaction in any way - we are all relatively anonymous and this is by design.
augie wrote:Cook I have no issue with you whatsoever but if you want to take it personally then there is fcuk all I can do about that
The way I am programmed is that if a player/manager or whoever, gives my club outstanding service over a period of time then I would be willing to forgive almost anything, but if any person or group do what I perceive to be bad for the club, then it would take a long, long, long time for me to allow them back into my good books - I'm not trying to make excuses for my statements because I absolutely stand by my thought process on this.
The simple truth is that I cannot get the image of the cringeworthy march opposing usmanov out of my head (thanks steve o ) - as I have said millions of times already, my gripe was that the club used redaction for that purpose and ye were happy to go along with it and from that day on I stopped viewing redaction as an independent fans group but just another aspect of the club itself. On the very odd occasion I have heard comments suggesting that there is regret within redaction for that decision but I have never seen it publicly addressed and indeed I have never seen or heard the group do or say anything that will affect their cosy relationship with the club.
My frustration in that regard isn't solely reserved for redaction and I actually stopped my membership of the BSM because of their refusal to tackle "the elephant in the room" huge issue.......the problems with wenker. No group seems willing to stand up and criticise his performance (expect the ast statement suggesting that no contract extension should be agreed until end of season) - I have read all the comments about how the groups are afraid of how such criticism would drive people out of their groups but where is the greater good there ? What use is it if you have ten thousand nodding sheep members but are supporting a club and regime that aims no higher than 4th and are willing to allow an employee to service his own ego before anything else ?
Respect has to be earned imo - when an organisation takes action that warrants respect then I will join up but in the meantime I will sit here alone with my own principles as company
OK - here it is again ; The Usmanov banner was a mistake, and I wish REDaction had never been persuaded to put their name to such a thing ; unfortunately I was not in a position within REDaction at the time to put a stop to it - I am now the current chairman so REDaction have a very definite mission statement and we know exactly what we want to do and exactly what we don't. You can have your opinions, but my problem is with the incorrect comments you make, and I have to keep pointing them out
Hi Cook,
would it be possible to put the mission statement and Redactions plans as a thread in a separate thread as I (and possibly others) would be interested to find out exactly what it is that you guys are campaigning for in regard to fellow Arsenal fans and the future direction of our once great Club ?
Just back from the fatherland where I had the pleasure of watching the game in Nuremberg surrounded by Munich supporters.
Even they couldn't believe the sending off!
Robben is not a popular player with their supporters. They accuse him of being a cheat and not a team player
augie wrote:Cook I have no issue with you whatsoever but if you want to take it personally then there is fcuk all I can do about that
The way I am programmed is that if a player/manager or whoever, gives my club outstanding service over a period of time then I would be willing to forgive almost anything, but if any person or group do what I perceive to be bad for the club, then it would take a long, long, long time for me to allow them back into my good books - I'm not trying to make excuses for my statements because I absolutely stand by my thought process on this.
The simple truth is that I cannot get the image of the cringeworthy march opposing usmanov out of my head (thanks steve o ) - as I have said millions of times already, my gripe was that the club used redaction for that purpose and ye were happy to go along with it and from that day on I stopped viewing redaction as an independent fans group but just another aspect of the club itself. On the very odd occasion I have heard comments suggesting that there is regret within redaction for that decision but I have never seen it publicly addressed and indeed I have never seen or heard the group do or say anything that will affect their cosy relationship with the club.
My frustration in that regard isn't solely reserved for redaction and I actually stopped my membership of the BSM because of their refusal to tackle "the elephant in the room" huge issue.......the problems with wenker. No group seems willing to stand up and criticise his performance (expect the ast statement suggesting that no contract extension should be agreed until end of season) - I have read all the comments about how the groups are afraid of how such criticism would drive people out of their groups but where is the greater good there ? What use is it if you have ten thousand nodding sheep members but are supporting a club and regime that aims no higher than 4th and are willing to allow an employee to service his own ego before anything else ?
Respect has to be earned imo - when an organisation takes action that warrants respect then I will join up but in the meantime I will sit here alone with my own principles as company
OK - here it is again ; The Usmanov banner was a mistake, and I wish REDaction had never been persuaded to put their name to such a thing ; unfortunately I was not in a position within REDaction at the time to put a stop to it - I am now the current chairman so REDaction have a very definite mission statement and we know exactly what we want to do and exactly what we don't. You can have your opinions, but my problem is with the incorrect comments you make, and I have to keep pointing them out
Hi Cook,
would it be possible to put the mission statement and Redactions plans as a thread in a separate thread as I (and possibly others) would be interested to find out exactly what it is that you guys are campaigning for in regard to fellow Arsenal fans and the future direction of our once great Club ?
They're a group for improving the atmosphere at home games
!
So many babies over there whose first word was "Jaysus..." 
) - as I have said millions of times already, my gripe was that the club used redaction for that purpose and ye were happy to go along with it and from that day on I stopped viewing redaction as an independent fans group but just another aspect of the club itself. On the very odd occasion I have heard comments suggesting that there is regret within redaction for that decision but I have never seen it publicly addressed and indeed I have never seen or heard the group do or say anything that will affect their cosy relationship with the club.
