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[arseofacrow]

I respect that they want to do something and put some effort in.

What I don't like is their attitude to criticism.

It's been gone though longenough in the past, so no need to re-hashkads it. I just don't have much time for this kind of thing.

[Clash]

Hi Cook,
would it be possible to put the mission statement and Redactions plans as a thread in a separate thread as I (and possibly others) would be interested to find out exactly what it is that you guys are campaigning for in regard to fellow Arsenal fans and the future direction of our once great Club ?

They're a group for improving the atmosphere at home games

That's great, when do they begin?

[arseofacrow]

Hi Cook,
would it be possible to put the mission statement and Redactions plans as a thread in a separate thread as I (and possibly others) would be interested to find out exactly what it is that you guys are campaigning for in regard to fellow Arsenal fans and the future direction of our once great Club ?

They're a group for improving the atmosphere at home games

That's great, when do they begin?

Harsh, but

[TheCook]

Cook I have no issue with you whatsoever but if you want to take it personally then there is fcuk all I can do about that

The way I am programmed is that if a player/manager or whoever, gives my club outstanding service over a period of time then I would be willing to forgive almost anything, but if any person or group do what I perceive to be bad for the club, then it would take a long, long, long time for me to allow them back into my good books - I'm not trying to make excuses for my statements because I absolutely stand by my thought process on this.
The simple truth is that I cannot get the image of the cringeworthy march opposing usmanov out of my head (thanks steve o ) - as I have said millions of times already, my gripe was that the club used redaction for that purpose and ye were happy to go along with it and from that day on I stopped viewing redaction as an independent fans group but just another aspect of the club itself. On the very odd occasion I have heard comments suggesting that there is regret within redaction for that decision but I have never seen it publicly addressed and indeed I have never seen or heard the group do or say anything that will affect their cosy relationship with the club.
My frustration in that regard isn't solely reserved for redaction and I actually stopped my membership of the BSM because of their refusal to tackle "the elephant in the room" huge issue.......the problems with wenker. No group seems willing to stand up and criticise his performance (expect the ast statement suggesting that no contract extension should be agreed until end of season) - I have read all the comments about how the groups are afraid of how such criticism would drive people out of their groups but where is the greater good there ? What use is it if you have ten thousand nodding sheep members but are supporting a club and regime that aims no higher than 4th and are willing to allow an employee to service his own ego before anything else ?

Respect has to be earned imo - when an organisation takes action that warrants respect then I will join up but in the meantime I will sit here alone with my own principles as company

OK - here it is again ; The Usmanov banner was a mistake, and I wish REDaction had never been persuaded to put their name to such a thing ; unfortunately I was not in a position within REDaction at the time to put a stop to it - I am now the current chairman so REDaction have a very definite mission statement and we know exactly what we want to do and exactly what we don't. You can have your opinions, but my problem is with the incorrect comments you make, and I have to keep pointing them out

Hi Cook,
would it be possible to put the mission statement and Redactions plans as a thread in a separate thread as I (and possibly others) would be interested to find out exactly what it is that you guys are campaigning for in regard to fellow Arsenal fans and the future direction of our once great Club ?

Please see the website at http://www.redaction.org.uk/ for further details, join the mailing list, and follow us on Twitter @REDactionAFC. That should keep you up to date.