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Who Do YOU Want As Next Arsenal Manager

Ancelotti
27
21%
Tuchel
1
1%
Allegri
62
49%
PV4
7
6%
Enrique
3
2%
Jardim
6
5%
Nagelsmann
1
1%
Rodgers
1
1%
Arteta
4
3%
Others
15
12%
 
Total votes: 127

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augie
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Re: Your Choice As Manager

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Arsenal Till I Die wrote:
Sun May 06, 2018 11:03 pm
augie wrote:
Sun May 06, 2018 10:45 pm
Arsenal Till I Die wrote:
Sun May 06, 2018 8:52 pm
Probably end of the week if it's Allegri. They're all but champions of Italy now given Napoli's 2-2 draw this afternoon. Juve six points clear with two games left, a win vs Milan on Wednesday and they're champions again.



Wednesday night is the coppa italia final

:oops: :oops: :oops: I thought that was Sunday.



They are playing roma away next weekend in the league so that will be tough, but napoli are away v sampdoria and that aint no gimme.

I just want that title done and dusted cos allegri needs to start planning what players he intends signing for us this summer :wink:

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augie
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Good to see the french cock telling the world that we will challenge next season for the big trophies - nothing like putting added pressure on the poor c.unt that has to clear up his mess, and of course the wenker cocksuckers will be up in arms then WHEN we dont challenge :roll:

By any chance when wenker said that we will challenge next season, did any media guy ask him why we didnt challenge this season under him then ? :censored:

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augie wrote:
Mon May 07, 2018 7:30 am
Good to see the french cock telling the world that we will challenge next season for the big trophies - nothing like putting added pressure on the poor c.unt that has to clear up his mess, and of course the wenker cocksuckers will be up in arms then WHEN we dont challenge :roll:

By any chance when wenker said that we will challenge next season, did any media guy ask him why we didnt challenge this season under him then ? :censored:
I heard him say during the week that our problems were obvious and easy to fix too :D

Makes me wonder why Mr 30 Years - you know, the bloke who turned down every top job in football - couldn't solve them

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I always felt that unless the transfer budget was unbelievably small, getting allegri would be do-able. The man has done all he can do domestically in italy, and doesnt seem to be the type of manager that is short term hit and bail straight afterwards. Regardless of how many people perceive us, we are still viewed as a big club around europe and across the world - the next manager will be walking into a club that has one of the best stadiums and training complex in the world, has a massive fanbase around the world, a club where expectations will be more realistic in the short term, a squad that is set up for a rebuild in his own style, and a club that is based in one of the most popular cities in the world. If a top manager gets the job then he will be lucky to do so, cos he will be walking into a mess but, because he is a top manager he will have the confidence of the majority of the fanbase that he can turn it around - if a manager like arteta/rodgers/buvac gets it, then he had better get things right straight away cos he wont have the confidence of the fans behind him

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augie wrote:
Mon May 07, 2018 9:43 am
I always felt that unless the transfer budget was unbelievably small, getting allegri would be do-able. The man has done all he can do domestically in italy, and doesnt seem to be the type of manager that is short term hit and bail straight afterwards. Regardless of how many people perceive us, we are still viewed as a big club around europe and across the world - the next manager will be walking into a club that has one of the best stadiums and training complex in the world, has a massive fanbase around the world, a club where expectations will be more realistic in the short term, a squad that is set up for a rebuild in his own style, and a club that is based in one of the most popular cities in the world. If a top manager gets the job then he will be lucky to do so, cos he will be walking into a mess but, because he is a top manager he will have the confidence of the majority of the fanbase that he can turn it around - if a manager like arteta/rodgers/buvac gets it, then he had better get things right straight away cos he wont have the confidence of the fans behind him
Agreed....and the reports are that he is learning English too :rubchin:

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Alegri would be amazing, so many of these players have the ability but lack the discipline and motivation, they need structure and guidance, an opposite to Wenger.

A clone of Wenger and nothing will change.

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SSN reporting we want Enrique or Allegri but both of them have concerns over the management structure at the club!!

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Jock Gooner wrote:
Mon May 07, 2018 11:07 am
SSN reporting we want Enrique or Allegri but both of them have concerns over the management structure at the club!!
Well Ivan better ease those f*cking concerns then because if we end up with Buvac, Rodgers or Arteta because it fits the structure then one season of failure will end up with the same empty seats and apathy that we have now.

:twisted:

I very much doubt it has anything to do with the 'structure' anyway, more likely to do with Stan Kroenke saying you have no money to spend, no doubt everyone will start blaming Ivan now.. monkey? organ grinder?.

:roll:

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Jock Gooner wrote:
Mon May 07, 2018 11:07 am
SSN reporting we want Enrique or Allegri but both of them have concerns over the management structure at the club!!
At a guess I would say if SSN take the word "management " out of that Breaking News it might be more accurate...both men have concerns over the structure at the club.

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Bradywasking wrote:
Mon May 07, 2018 11:20 am
Jock Gooner wrote:
Mon May 07, 2018 11:07 am
SSN reporting we want Enrique or Allegri but both of them have concerns over the management structure at the club!!
At a guess I would say if SSN take the word "management " out of that Breaking News it might be more accurate...both men have concerns over the structure at the club.
And this is where I am coming from, we are a poisoned chalice with threadbare transfer funds culminating from no CL Funding...
A realism is about to descend on a club that will be finding its place at the table over the next decade!....

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Re: Your Choice As Manager

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augie wrote:
Mon May 07, 2018 7:27 am
Arsenal Till I Die wrote:
Sun May 06, 2018 11:03 pm
augie wrote:
Sun May 06, 2018 10:45 pm
Arsenal Till I Die wrote:
Sun May 06, 2018 8:52 pm
Probably end of the week if it's Allegri. They're all but champions of Italy now given Napoli's 2-2 draw this afternoon. Juve six points clear with two games left, a win vs Milan on Wednesday and they're champions again.



Wednesday night is the coppa italia final

:oops: :oops: :oops: I thought that was Sunday.



They are playing roma away next weekend in the league so that will be tough, but napoli are away v sampdoria and that aint no gimme.

I just want that title done and dusted cos allegri needs to start planning what players he intends signing for us this summer :wink:
What the hell do I know? :oops: :lol:

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If we are taking a chance on a manager that's not in the "well known" bracket then I want Nuno Espírito Santo of Wolves.

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augie wrote:
Mon May 07, 2018 9:43 am
I always felt that unless the transfer budget was unbelievably small, getting allegri would be do-able. The man has done all he can do domestically in italy, and doesnt seem to be the type of manager that is short term hit and bail straight afterwards. Regardless of how many people perceive us, we are still viewed as a big club around europe and across the world - the next manager will be walking into a club that has one of the best stadiums and training complex in the world, has a massive fanbase around the world, a club where expectations will be more realistic in the short term, a squad that is set up for a rebuild in his own style, and a club that is based in one of the most popular cities in the world. If a top manager gets the job then he will be lucky to do so, cos he will be walking into a mess but, because he is a top manager he will have the confidence of the majority of the fanbase that he can turn it around - if a manager like arteta/rodgers/buvac gets it, then he had better get things right straight away cos he wont have the confidence of the fans behind him
Sorry Augie but there is a certain amount of rose tinted bollocks in there, most top managers are pragmatists and immaterial of the stature of the club locally or internationally none of them are likely to put their head in the post AW noose without significant resources being promised to be made available to actually chaļlenge.

Pep, Jose, Jurgen and the Spuds are all likely to strengthen to differing degrees over the summer and our squad is miles behind those currently, it's not just players but tactics, strategy and infrastructure/backroom organisation. Chelsea is a better prospect than us currently because if you go to the owner with a plan then he will give you the resources, our lot fuck knows what they'll do.

I hope to god I'm wrong but I said ages ago the new manager would have to contend with similar limitations to Wenger and my stance hasn't changed, the only difference being that Wenger imposed some of those limitations himself and the rest were imposed by those above him, I hope a new manager facing any limitations will, unlike Wenger, be pragmatic enough to work around them.

The other major issue any manager has to face will be the hostile fans who will still be Wengerites, even at the worst of times the anti-Wenger feeling in the ground was muted, I don't think the new manager will be allowed the same leeway by the acolytes, it will likely fast become a hostile environment if we lag behind the others quickly.

At least we get to talk about someone else for a change soon but it'll be interesting to find out how the attitude on here develops next season and will any failures be appointed to the new manager or will we continue to blame Wenger :rubchin:

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Re: Your Choice As Manager

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Allegri 11/5
Enrique 11/2

Betfair

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