Wilson wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:30 am
Are you one of those people who believes in the Clinton body count?
The Clineotns are not perfect, yes Bill loves his women too much, and yes Hillary is an entitled robot. But the very worst things said about the Clintons is mostly rubbish.
I always wondered why the hatred for Bill. Budget surplus, amazing economy, over 200% gains in the stock market, no silly wars, no major fuck ups. However, he had a consensual affair with an intern which makes him the devil in some eyes.
Trumps only 1 year into whats only going to be 4 years as POTUS, he still has more than enough time to cause a major crisis. And when it does the democrat need to remind everyone they told them so. They need to do more of that, they never reminded the American people the Iraq War would never have happened if Gore beat Bush.
Jesus Christ mate. I have already shredded every single pro-Clinton point you just made earlier on this thread and you still try to bring up myths like "Budget surplus, amazing economy, over 200% gains in the stock market, no silly wars, no major fuck ups"?? Are you kidding?
You made me do this.
Again.
Read it this time.
The list of scandals and corruption involving Clinton and his wife is huge. You honestly think it was all made up? Jesus, you are a believer aren't you?
His "presidency is the closest thing to perfection post WWII"???!! (
You wrote earlier in this thread). You simply must be joking. His entire presidency was based upon cheesy "charisma" and his hackneyed populist politics. Clinton was a charlatan, the ultimate bandwagon jumper and self publicist. You have bought into his publicity and his cheesy smile. Here are the facts about his presidency;
The "strong American economy" of the 90s that he gets credited with was the work of Alan Greenspan, and fortunate timing, as thanks to information technology and the disinflation of that decade, those were likely to be good years either way.
Clinton jumped on the Irish Peace Process bandwagon when the dirty (but necessary) work of speaking to the IRA had been done by John Hume (who was initially criticised by both British Prime Minister Tony Blair and the Irish Prime Minister Bertie Ahern before they too jumped on the bandwagon once it looked like it might work).
His federal crime bill in 1994 certainly put some hardened criminals in jail based on "3 strikes and you are out" but it also put thousands of low level non violent criminals away for life, costing the American tax payer billions and putting huge strain on the prison system. He admits himself it was a mistake; "The problem is the way it was written and implemented is we cast too wide a net and we had too many people in prison, And we wound up... putting so many people in prison that there wasn't enough money left to educate them, train them for new jobs and increase the chances when they came out so they could live productive lives." But he even lies in that explanation. It was a deliberate choice. He saw the political popularity of being tough on crime, he fully embraced the lock-'em-up-and-throw-away-the-key mentality, and publicly gloated about three strikes at the time. During Clinton's tenure, federal prison spending jumped $19 billion (171%), while funding for public housing declined by $17 billion (61%). Under Clinton, nearly $1 billion in state spending shifted from education to prisons.
His punitive welfare reforms led to a massive increase in poor black families living in abject poverty.
He signed into law more financial deregulation legislation than any other president. He deregulated the risky derivatives market (Commodity Futures Modernization Act), gutted state regulation of banks leading to a wave of banking mergers, which led in no small part to the global financial crisis of 2008 and the "too-big-to-fail" ethos, with the US federal government obligated to bail out multinational banks. The Columbia Journalism Review publicly stated; “The bottom line is: Bill Clinton was responsible for more damaging financial deregulation—and thus, for the [2008] financial crisis—than any other president.”
http://www.cjr.org/the_audit/bill_clint ... cans_m.php
He basically gutted America’s manufacturing base by promoting and passing the North American Free Trade Agreement, or NAFTA, in 1993. This caused the permanent loss of 700,000 manufacturing jobs in industrial states such as California, Texas and Michigan. It gave corporate managers an excuse to cut wages and benefits, threatening otherwise to move to Mexico. Selling U.S. farm products in Mexico dislocated millions of Mexican workers and their families, which was a major cause in the dramatic increase in undocumented workers flowing into the US labour market.
The discriminatory defense of marriage act signed into law by Clinton in 1996, defined spouse as "heterosexual" and deprived legally wed same-sex couples of many significant benefits, from Social Security benefits to hospital visitation rights. He signed it in a self serving act of moral cowardice as he wanted to keep the conservative right on his side whilst looking for re-election.
Even when the cowardly Clinton tried to get tough on terror he got it wrong; His 1998 bombing of the Al-Shifa pharmaceutical factory in Sudan destroyed a facility that provided 50 percent of Sudan’s medicines and was the country’s main source of anti-malaria drugs. Germany’s ambassador to Sudan, Werner Daum, stated the bombing led to "several tens of thousands of deaths”.
His expansion of Bush's 1990 Iraq sanctions decimated the Iraqi economy, crippled the civilian infrastructure, and according to a 1999 UNICEF survey, ultimately led to the deaths of more than 500,000 children.
Ever the moral coward, Clinton knew about the upcoming Rwandan genocide. This might be Clinton’s worst foreign policy failure. US Intelligence analysts knew in advance about the plans for the Hutu-led genocide against Tutsis in Rwanda, yet Clinton did nothing to try to stop it. In 2013, Clinton told MSNBS that he could have sent some 10,000 US troops to Rwanda to support a UN peacekeeping force and perhaps saved 300,000 lives. In retrospect, Clinton said, “You can’t stop everything bad that's happening" and pointed to "his" success ending sectarian violence in Northern Ireland - which was bollocks as he ended nothing in NI.
Clinton was and is a corrupt lying criminal dressed up in an empty soundbite. As is his wife.... who incidentally voted for every US military intervention during her time in office.
For God's sake man do some research before you post the Clinton myth please!