The Patrick Vieira Thread

[wlchuccc]

Come back please.....

[Mikegooner87i]

Because Ian Wright has been a source of worldly football knowledge since he entered the media hasn't he....

I can't see Vieira coming back, I know it may not sometimes seem like it with our injury problems but one of the things that Wenger is hot on is the fitness levels of players. Vieira was on his way down when he left us, I thought he was noticably not the same player in his last season for us so I really don't think he could cut it now.

He would do a better job then Song, Denilson and Diaby put together though, and maybe, just maybe having someone like Paddy in the squad would make those donkeys better players for the future, because nwither of them are good enough to help our team challenge for honors...

Rubbish, read my post above - he would be good for their development granted - but Vieira would not cut it in the Premiership anymore, he would be nothing more than a squad player at best. As AT says, he was on the decline in 2005 due to the sort of awesome game he used to play and the injuries took their toll - he could not reproduce that anymore, hence why he went to a slower league.

Sorry bdb, but i aint got the same WengerGoggles on as you. Vieira's experiance at the top level makes him start ahead of all those in my book.

Song is not and will not be good enough tp start games for us in the coming season, he is to slow and is nowhere near good enough to face up to the essien's, carrick's and Mascherano's of this league.

Denilson, is a good young player with decent potential (theres that word again) but was he not brought in as an attacking midfielder? What the fuck is he doing playing in a holding rold when he can not tackle properly??? what match is he to the top midfielder in this leage??

Diaby....No comment.....

Get them goggles off mate and have a look into reality. This squad is worse off then it was last summer, and if he dont get his finger out, we all know what will happen.

Its nothing to do with Wenger goggles tho has it? And i wasnt mentioning anything about the current squad, im saying Vieira is not the answer.

Vieira was probably the best Midfielder in the world in his prime, but he has long since past that. Song and Denilson could add more to a centre midfield that Vieria could nowdays over the course of a season, and Vieira would be overrun by a lot of CMs in the Premiership, the pace of the game would be too much for him, just as it was when he came back for Juve a few years ago.

Fantastic player, but not what we need. As i say him coming would have small merits, we do have problems in the sqaud, but Vieira won't solve any of them.

He might not be the answer, but if we can bring him back, get 2 good seasons out of him and use his influence to make the other 3 better players, AND MAYBE SHOW THE *word censored* WHAT IT MEANS TO PLAY FOR ARSENAL.

All the weknesses you mention in Vieira we have the exact same problems with the current midfield , they got overrun by other midfields and the pace of the game is already to fast for song and denilson, Vieira would do a better job then both.

PLus we get a player back with whom the fans had a fucking amaizng bond. He knows what it means to be a gooner, maybe he can show some of the current crop...

[Boomer]

At least Greedywhore had the decency to leave like he promised. As for you...

Dont keep going on about it, little 'un

According to Wenger we drove Greedywhore out; I'm hoping we can do the same with you... before someone has to (to quote your kinds favourite film) "take you to the fucking cleaners!"

As Man Citeh have these rich owners there keen to invest the cash else where with in the club not just the field........(read on)

Rumours are that Citeh forum (The Online Citizen) are keen to take Flash Gooner away from North London to Eastlands.

With many of the Online Gooners having become discouraged with some of Flash's recent displays and posts on the site. It has now become to a head where most forum members would happily see the back of Flash.

Flash certaintly didn't help feelings last year when at a press conference he stated his future was with the Gooners. Less then 5 mins passed and was heard responding to reporters regarding recent speculation "we shall wait and here what happends".
This was in reference to the rumours that Flash was harbouring a move to Italy to sign for AC Milans 'The Online Rossoneri'.
Flash later committed his future by signing agreeing a new deal much to the annoyance of some of the Gooner faithful.

Speculations mounts over Flash Gooners future and so far neither party have made any comments...

[woolwichgooner]

Viera is not better than Song. It may help to have him around tho.

[Mikegooner87i]

Viera is not better than Song. It may help to have him around tho.

errrr yes he is....Song is not even in his league..

[Chippy]

Guys this is not the Vieira of 2004, he is 5 years older thatn the last full season he played. He cannot be as good a player as the one who left. I don't want my memories of him destroyed by threads on here saying Vieira must go.

[Bendtners Drinking Buddy]

He would do a better job then Song, Denilson and Diaby put together though, and maybe, just maybe having someone like Paddy in the squad would make those donkeys better players for the future, because nwither of them are good enough to help our team challenge for honors...

Rubbish, read my post above - he would be good for their development granted - but Vieira would not cut it in the Premiership anymore, he would be nothing more than a squad player at best. As AT says, he was on the decline in 2005 due to the sort of awesome game he used to play and the injuries took their toll - he could not reproduce that anymore, hence why he went to a slower league.

Sorry bdb, but i aint got the same WengerGoggles on as you. Vieira's experiance at the top level makes him start ahead of all those in my book.

Song is not and will not be good enough tp start games for us in the coming season, he is to slow and is nowhere near good enough to face up to the essien's, carrick's and Mascherano's of this league.

Denilson, is a good young player with decent potential (theres that word again) but was he not brought in as an attacking midfielder? What the fuck is he doing playing in a holding rold when he can not tackle properly??? what match is he to the top midfielder in this leage??

Diaby....No comment.....

Get them goggles off mate and have a look into reality. This squad is worse off then it was last summer, and if he dont get his finger out, we all know what will happen.

Its nothing to do with Wenger goggles tho has it? And i wasnt mentioning anything about the current squad, im saying Vieira is not the answer.

Vieira was probably the best Midfielder in the world in his prime, but he has long since past that. Song and Denilson could add more to a centre midfield that Vieria could nowdays over the course of a season, and Vieira would be overrun by a lot of CMs in the Premiership, the pace of the game would be too much for him, just as it was when he came back for Juve a few years ago.

Fantastic player, but not what we need. As i say him coming would have small merits, we do have problems in the sqaud, but Vieira won't solve any of them.

He might not be the answer, but if we can bring him back, get 2 good seasons out of him and use his influence to make the other 3 better players, AND MAYBE SHOW THE c**ts WHAT IT MEANS TO PLAY FOR ARSENAL.

All the weknesses you mention in Vieira we have the exact same problems with the current midfield , they got overrun by other midfields and the pace of the game is already to fast for song and denilson, Vieira would do a better job then both.

PLus we get a player back with whom the fans had a fucking amaizng bond. He knows what it means to be a gooner, maybe he can show some of the current crop...

Sorry but I dont agree with a word of that. If you think Vieira in his current state could contribute more than any of our current midfielders over the course of a season then your mistaken., regardless of what you think of their ability, they would simply perform better than him consistently.

Its like saying Charlie George could score more goals than Vela!

[flash gunner]

At least Greedywhore had the decency to leave like he promised. As for you...

Dont keep going on about it, little 'un

According to Wenger we drove Greedywhore out; I'm hoping we can do the same with you... before someone has to (to quote your kinds favourite film) "take you to the fucking cleaners!"

As Man Citeh have these rich owners there keen to invest the cash else where with in the club not just the field........(read on)

Rumours are that Citeh forum (The Online Citizen) are keen to take Flash Gooner away from North London to Eastlands.

With many of the Online Gooners having become discouraged with some of Flash's recent displays and posts on the site. It has now become to a head where most forum members would happily see the back of Flash.

Flash certaintly didn't help feelings last year when at a press conference he stated his future was with the Gooners. Less then 5 mins passed and was heard responding to reporters regarding recent speculation "we shall wait and here what happends".
This was in reference to the rumours that Flash was harbouring a move to Italy to sign for AC Milans 'The Online Rossoneri'.
Flash later committed his future by signing agreeing a new deal much to the annoyance of some of the Gooner faithful.

Speculations mounts over Flash Gooners future and so far neither party have made any comments...

Im starting to worry now

[Boomer]

Viera is not better than Song. It may help to have him around tho.

errrr yes he is....Song is not even in his league..

Mike sadly the Veira of now is about the same as Song. Remember Veira is 33 and no longer has the power or pace as we once new.

That said I still think he's not far behind Song or maybe a bit infront. As Veira would have to play to a different style to what we know. He may have to sit back more but that could be a blessing!

Also the experience and knowledge to Song would be pricless.

[Mikegooner87i]

Viera is not better than Song. It may help to have him around tho.

errrr yes he is....Song is not even in his league..

Mike sadly the Veira of now is about the same as Song. Remember Veira is 33 and no longer has the power or pace as we once new.

That said I still think he's not far behind Song or maybe a bit infront. As Veira would have to play to a different style to what we know. He may have to sit back more but that could be a blessing!

Also the experience and knowledge to Song would be pricless.

I disagree with you, Vieira might be 33, and might be plagued by injuries, but he is a better player then song, If vieira stays fit i think he can contribute more then song would over a season, and as you say the expericance players like song and diaby could gain under vieira's gidance would be priceless and might make them as good a player as AW thinks they are now.

Vieiras presance alone would life the whole team, the majority of fans would very plaesed too.

[Boomer]

Viera is not better than Song. It may help to have him around tho.

errrr yes he is....Song is not even in his league..

Mike sadly the Veira of now is about the same as Song. Remember Veira is 33 and no longer has the power or pace as we once new.

That said I still think he's not far behind Song or maybe a bit infront. As Veira would have to play to a different style to what we know. He may have to sit back more but that could be a blessing!

Also the experience and knowledge to Song would be pricless.

I disagree with you, Vieira might be 33, and might be plagued by injuries, but he is a better player then song, If vieira stays fit i think he can contribute more then song would over a season, and as you say the expericance players like song and diaby could gain under vieira's gidance would be priceless and might make them as good a player as AW thinks they are now.

Vieiras presance alone would life the whole team, the majority of fans would very plaesed too.

I'm not disagreeing with you over the signing.

Just think your views over Songs abilty maybe slightly clouded based on the Veira we all knew. Veira's current (not 2005) abilty, form and age is of that of Song.

I do, on the other hand, think that Veira would be better option then Denilson. I think we all agree. So it would add and improve to the overall quality in Midfield.

[DB10GOONER]

At least Greedywhore had the decency to leave like he promised. As for you...

Dont keep going on about it, little 'un

According to Wenger we drove Greedywhore out; I'm hoping we can do the same with you... before someone has to (to quote your kinds favourite film) "take you to the fucking cleaners!"

As Man Citeh have these rich owners there keen to invest the cash else where with in the club not just the field........(read on)

Rumours are that Citeh forum (The Online Citizen) are keen to take Flash Gooner away from North London to Eastlands.

With many of the Online Gooners having become discouraged with some of Flash's recent displays and posts on the site. It has now become to a head where most forum members would happily see the back of Flash.

Flash certaintly didn't help feelings last year when at a press conference he stated his future was with the Gooners. Less then 5 mins passed and was heard responding to reporters regarding recent speculation "we shall wait and here what happends".
This was in reference to the rumours that Flash was harbouring a move to Italy to sign for AC Milans 'The Online Rossoneri'.
Flash later committed his future by signing agreeing a new deal much to the annoyance of some of the Gooner faithful.

Speculations mounts over Flash Gooners future and so far neither party have made any comments...

Will we have to offer them a sweatener to take him? Maybe a once solid poster now well past his best? Maybe augie?

[Bendtners Drinking Buddy]

Viera is not better than Song. It may help to have him around tho.

errrr yes he is....Song is not even in his league..

Mike sadly the Veira of now is about the same as Song. Remember Veira is 33 and no longer has the power or pace as we once new.

That said I still think he's not far behind Song or maybe a bit infront. As Veira would have to play to a different style to what we know. He may have to sit back more but that could be a blessing!

Also the experience and knowledge to Song would be pricless.

I disagree with you, Vieira might be 33, and might be plagued by injuries, but he is a better player then song, If vieira stays fit i think he can contribute more then song would over a season, and as you say the expericance players like song and diaby could gain under vieira's gidance would be priceless and might make them as good a player as AW thinks they are now.

Vieiras presance alone would life the whole team, the majority of fans would very plaesed too.

I'm not disagreeing with you over the signing.

Just think your views over Songs abilty maybe slightly clouded based on the Veira we all knew. Veira's current (not 2005) abilty, form and age is of that of Song.

I do, on the other hand, think that Veira would be better option then Denilson. I think we all agree. So it would add and improve to the overall quality in Midfield.

Vieira would add nothing to our midfield, he is well past his best.

As someone correctly put it above, it stinks of the whole Keegan "messiah" saga, and it would probably have the same outcome. Vieira could not cope witha a full season in the Prem, yes it would bring off-pitch merits, but I dont think they outweight the neagtives.

[Boomer]

Did Augie catch Malaria?

[DB10GOONER]

I'd bring him back to help coach the younger shitter players but I have to be honest and say PV4 would not cut a full season in the PL. The man is a legend but let's just look realistically at the situation.

He is deffo a better technical player than Song, Denilson and Diaby (and by a long way too) but he could not keep up that level of play (or fitness) for every game at his age and with his legs.

And we'd never build any continuity of play, or team stability and cohesion, if we built a team around trying to accomodate Paddy playing in 10 or 15 games.

Coach or nothing for me, unfortunately.