REBEL GOONER wrote:DB10GOONER wrote:
Britain could be seen to have played Isreal's role as the invader and certain groups in Ireland the palestinian role as the self-viewed freedom fighters (groups that were viewed EXACTLY the same way by the British and Irish governments as the Palestinians are by Isreal).
just how can you compare the two

we both grew up with the british army in the north but for the life of me i cant ever remember the british army bombing schools,shooting innocent woman and children, planes dropping bombs and not caring where or who they hurt, bombing republican parts of belfast ,derry etc and not remember ever a humanitarian blockade stopping medical supplies going across the border .
Rebel,
I know your views on this from previous posts and I always find them very hard to understand, honestly I really do.
Find me one single episode of the Israeli Army bombing a school? If you are talking about the one in Gaza at the end of 2008, there was no such incident. Even the UN admit that. The missiles were outside the school, aimed at a Hamas mortar crew. Three people in the school were injured, the school's GPS co-ordinates had been given to the Israelis by the UN so it was not targeted.
The whole incident was fabricated by the Hamas, the injured and dead people were from outside the school, and the UN had to retract their knee jerk statement that the school had been hit.
Innocent women and children have of course been killed in the conflicts, but not intentionally, and the Israeli army has often stopped missions because a civilian has got in the way of the cross hairs.
If it is school massacres you want to read about, try the Ma'alot massacre of 1974.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ma%27alot_massacre
DB10.
I understand that some people try to compare the Northern Irish situation with the Middle East, but for me it is far from like for like and does not bare comparison on a lot of issues.
People do try to align say Israel is liek the British were in Ireland, and you now have the innapppropriate use of the Israeli flag by both the English Defence League, and the Glasgow Rangers Firm who want to promote their predjudices.
If anything, Israeli is a tiny country, of Jews returning to spiritual homeland after 2000 year exile, surrounded by Muslim countries trying to wipe it out.
Hell bent on Arab imperialism, and Arab/Muslim empire from Mauritania in the West to Pakistan in the East. Tiny Israeli winds them up, stuck in the middle of the great "Islamic Empire".
And Flash, am I not allowed to speak on this because YOU say so?
If you have some sort of personal dislike of me then so be it, but at least look at what I post and answer point rationaly instead of pre dismissing what I write based on some sort of personal antipathy.
GoonerSid.
You posts just prove that all this "I am anti-Israeli but not anti-Semitic" rhetoric that ones hears is all cobblers. You talk about American "Semitic Money". Very clear where you are coming from. At least you do not try to hide it, but you prejudice is now very clear.
People say there is no racism on here and that is so ridiculous when I read posts like yours!
If anyone British is so quick to lambast Israel for this, they should have a little look again at the incident surrounding the sinking of the Belgrano, a ship outside the Falklands exclusion zone.
From Wikipedia:
"However, exclusion zones are historically declared for the benefit of neutral vessels; during war, under international law, the heading and location of a belligerent naval vessel has no bearing on its status. In addition, the captain of the Belgrano, Hector Bonzo, has testified that the attack was legitimate (as did the Argentine government in 1994)."