Listen to yourselves

skipper · Post by **skipper** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:07 pm

As for Wages, yes we do pay high wages but if we did'nt we would lose even more players to the circling vultures....

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Yeah, paying our best players not enough, so any rich club can easily double their wages, also paying stupidly high salaries to shit players, so no club would touch them. Wenger truly is a genius.

jambug · Post by **jambug** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:07 pm

'Johny' Ooops So we are so far behind that just the odd 20/30 Million in comparrison to their 100's of Millions would have won us the PL. Not far behind at all then. (as for those damn paragraphs, I keep typing with them they're just not posting)

mcdowell42 · Post by **mcdowell42** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:08 pm

jambug wrote:One of you guys summed up my point perfectly.... ".....if we have the 10's of Millions in the bank...." And thats jsut it TENS of Millions. The last fgures I saw out of Chelsea was the Russian had bestowed a BILLION POUND interest free loan on them. City are heading down the same route. Then someone says Utd are in the same boat....apsolute bull. The last time I looked there squad was full of 3 or more players costing around Â£30 Million (RIO, Roone, Berba) plus numerous around Â£20 and more between Â£10 and Â£20 Million!! How does that put us anywhere near that level of available funds ??? Again I have not said Wenger has not made mistakes. My point is that whilst these Clubs are being given vertually UNLIMITED FUNDS that they can spend pretty much without ever fearing the consequences of a bad buy (of which there have been plenty by Fergie and the rest) because theres ALWAYS more funds to address the problem. As for Wages, yes we do pay high wages but if we did'nt we would lose even more players to the circling vultures. And as for finding a direct quote regarding finnishing above Chelsea, City or Utd there isn't one but by inferance that is what is the general tone is. Dont try that 'all we want is to be competative' nonesense. During our drought we HAVE been competative, a few finals including One in the CL as well as running the title race close a couple of times. OK we came up short but you cannot say that we hav'nt been 'competative' If you want not 'competative' take a look at Liverpool and Spurs for that...despite spending fortunes. Also take a look at there efforts for a new Stadium, Liverpool are as far away as ever and Spurs have taken to holding out a begging bowl. Look I am genuinely sorry if I've rubbed a few of you up the wrong way. I'm not a WUM or a 'jolly come lately' I've followed Arsenal since the late 60's but I just think Arsenals critics and Wengers inparticular have got the whole thing miles out of proportion. Without doubt many of the points raised are correct, and of course my views are wrong in a lot of peoples eyes, but they are my views and I am entitled to them as are you yours and weather it is my first second or one hundreth post is irrelivant. One last point..I have been called a c**t, told to F..off, given the finger and called a WUM turd. I am not so prudish as to give a second thought to such insults but please do get off your high horse just because I called you a bunch of whingeing neg heads....because rightly or wrongly thats exactly what you are.

Bet you have never been called a *word censored* pussy

jambug · Post by **jambug** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:13 pm

Saddly for the majority on here it would seem, I am actually taking breaths, it just doesn't look like it. I will stop though if that would help.

Post by **flash gunner** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:16 pm

jambug wrote:'Johny' Ooops So we are so far behind that just the odd 20/30 Million in comparrison to their 100's of Millions would have won us the PL. Not far behind at all then. (as for those damn paragraphs, I keep typing with them they're just not posting)

Last season the league was there for the taking and if we had better defenders and a better keeper it could have won us the damn thing but we started with Almunia and he cost us points, him alone cost us points. Now it has been clear to all of us Almunia wasnt good enough for 3 years maybe more!!!

It has been clear for years now that defensively we arent strong enough but Wenger still wont buy the players to sort that or wont change his tactics so not to expose our frailties but he doesnt therefore we fall away when the going gets tough year after year and that isnt good enough for Arsenal

AFCWozza · Post by **AFCWozza** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:18 pm

jambug wrote:Saddly for the majority on here it would seem, I am actually taking breaths, it just doesn't look like it. I will stop though if that would help.

Dont stop mate, i value your opinions, they are superb, and bring a great deal of debate, just a shame we are outnumbered 1,000/1 on here

Post by **flash gunner** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:18 pm

mcdowell42 wrote:
jambug wrote:One of you guys summed up my point perfectly.... ".....if we have the 10's of Millions in the bank...." And thats jsut it TENS of Millions. The last fgures I saw out of Chelsea was the Russian had bestowed a BILLION POUND interest free loan on them. City are heading down the same route. Then someone says Utd are in the same boat....apsolute bull. The last time I looked there squad was full of 3 or more players costing around Â£30 Million (RIO, Roone, Berba) plus numerous around Â£20 and more between Â£10 and Â£20 Million!! How does that put us anywhere near that level of available funds ??? Again I have not said Wenger has not made mistakes. My point is that whilst these Clubs are being given vertually UNLIMITED FUNDS that they can spend pretty much without ever fearing the consequences of a bad buy (of which there have been plenty by Fergie and the rest) because theres ALWAYS more funds to address the problem. As for Wages, yes we do pay high wages but if we did'nt we would lose even more players to the circling vultures. And as for finding a direct quote regarding finnishing above Chelsea, City or Utd there isn't one but by inferance that is what is the general tone is. Dont try that 'all we want is to be competative' nonesense. During our drought we HAVE been competative, a few finals including One in the CL as well as running the title race close a couple of times. OK we came up short but you cannot say that we hav'nt been 'competative' If you want not 'competative' take a look at Liverpool and Spurs for that...despite spending fortunes. Also take a look at there efforts for a new Stadium, Liverpool are as far away as ever and Spurs have taken to holding out a begging bowl. Look I am genuinely sorry if I've rubbed a few of you up the wrong way. I'm not a WUM or a 'jolly come lately' I've followed Arsenal since the late 60's but I just think Arsenals critics and Wengers inparticular have got the whole thing miles out of proportion. Without doubt many of the points raised are correct, and of course my views are wrong in a lot of peoples eyes, but they are my views and I am entitled to them as are you yours and weather it is my first second or one hundreth post is irrelivant. One last point..I have been called a c**t, told to F..off, given the finger and called a WUM turd. I am not so prudish as to give a second thought to such insults but please do get off your high horse just because I called you a bunch of whingeing neg heads....because rightly or wrongly thats exactly what you are.

Bet you have never been called a c**t pussy

Give him time

Whats your view on the board jambug?

jambug · Post by **jambug** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:24 pm

Well my first impression was you are a bunch of neg heads. My second was that your are a bunch of foul mouthed neg heads. My third was that you are a bunch of foul mouthed neg heads that disagree with me by a ratio of about 1000 to one. But hey what the f**k you'll all feel pretty silly when we win the treble this year!!!

northbankbren · Post by **northbankbren** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:25 pm

Jumbug again i ask for a quote of someone who said we SHOULD be beating these teams?

jeysus how many times do i have to ask

northbankbren · Post by **northbankbren** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:27 pm

jambug wrote:Well my first impression was you are a bunch of neg heads. My second was that your are a bunch of foul mouthed neg heads. My third was that you are a bunch of foul mouthed neg heads that disagree with me by a ratio of about 1000 to one. But hey what the f**k you'll all feel pretty silly when we win the treble this year!!!

Rite he's a WUM/Troll.

Basement.

Post by **flash gunner** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:28 pm

jambug wrote: But hey what the f**k you'll all feel pretty silly when we win the treble this year!!!

brazilianGooner is that you?

mcdowell42 · Post by **mcdowell42** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:28 pm

His views on the board wont matter because we all know the only person who knows anything about what the board are doing is super secret agent
US MARTY( or also known as why am i such a pain in the arse)

Babu · Post by **Babu** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:29 pm

jambug wrote:Well my first impression was you are a bunch of neg heads. My second was that your are a bunch of foul mouthed neg heads. My third was that you are a bunch of foul mouthed neg heads that disagree with me by a ratio of about 1000 to one. But hey what the f**k you'll all feel pretty silly when we win the treble this year!!!

I made a sincere attempt to answer your question, and wasn't foul-mouthed at all.

I replied to your question, stating what I thought were our faults and what could have been done to rectify it.

Obviously you haven't read all the replies, so I find it a bit weak of you to tar everyone with the same brush.

Shame on you.

*word censored* pussy!

Post by **brazilianGOONER** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:30 pm

northbankbren wrote:Jumbug again i ask for a quote of someone who said we SHOULD be beating these teams?

jeysus how many times do i have to ask

he clearly only answers the questions that he wants. he won't come and try to explain 80% of the points we're trying to make here.

it's easier to avoid the truth than it is to face it.

the good thing is that with time, there will be fewer and fewer people like him. don't forget i was on the other side of the fence not long ago.

i would even go on to say that by the end of this season the wengerists will be the huge minority.

jambug · Post by **jambug** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:30 pm

I've sussed the paragraph issue I think.

If you preview it prior to posting it reconfigures the post without paragraphs

But....

If you submit without first previewing it posts as typed..

...at least I think thats the problem.

Here goes!!