As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
goonersid wrote:So you think Wenger is still capable of attracting the best players to the club? Let's wait and see who he attracts by 31st August this year.
I don't think it's ever been about 'attracting' George Weah, Patrick Vieira, Mark Overmars Nicola Anelka, Thierry Henry, Robert Pires and Kolo Toure for different reasons were not in massive demand.
but yes I think he has the ability to find good players
I hope we have signed some already and I hope the further signings we will definitely make are great players for the Arsenal
(interesting it's become 'who he attracts' not so long ago I was being abused by all and sundry for suggesting we would make any signings at all)
Ummm, George Weah??? Never played for us!!!
We would definately get the players we want if we seriously went for them! No question. Look at who spuds and scousers get their hands on when they put the money forward. Neither are in Champs League, we are a massive brand worldwide! I lived in the States for a year teaching "soccer" and us and ManUre were the only shirts you saw around and trust me there was shit loads of them. We are a massive brand and a massively supported club, players would love to play there. It's whether the silly old bastard will offer the proper cash need to secure their services! I doubt he will
So you think Wenger is still capable of attracting the best players to the club? Let's wait and see who he attracts by 31st August this year
Yes he is. Its simply that he doesn't bid enough. As JD says Arsenal are still viewed as a big club aroudn the world and in England. Many teams have failed to get into the CL, Liverpool,AC,Bayern, these teams have won it not so long ago. Its about the stature of the club. If Arsenal went after most players they would come. Wenger is a very well respected Coach regardless of your own opinion of him
He was, I don't think he is any longer, other than for youngsters looking to develop as players. I don't think an experienced top international would be impressed by wengers tactical nous, nor his square pegs in round holes philosophy.
Liverpool werent in the European Cup and were struggling in the league last season yet still managed to get Carrol and the excellent Suarez because they paid the $$$$$$'s
He was, I don't think he is any longer, other than for youngsters looking to develop as players. I don't think an experienced top international would be impressed by wengers tactical nous, nor his square pegs in round holes philosophy.
They are. Again take personal opinions out of it, and Wenger is lauded especially in europe.
jonny3110 wrote:Ummm, George Weah??? Never played for us!!!
Is this a joke or do you seriously not understand what the conversation was about?
No not a joke and actually agreed with you if you read under that comment!!! Just don't understand why you've put there's not a problem with attracting great players to Arsenal, then going on to mention one player who never played for us alongside 6 players who did that is all? Like me saying "Chelsea always get their man don't they, Eto'o, Terry, Mata, Cole and Essien."
Small point that's all. Chill out mate, know tempers are high but we'll get through tonight!
goonersid wrote:According to the rumour mill, he has ruled out a move to Arsenal (surprise surprise) and is committed to his current club. (talksport)
And in all reality, what top player is going to sign for us now, with the mess we are in. Any player with any sense can see that Wenger is finished and can no longer deliver what they want, either in their wage packet or on the field.
as everyone here knows I fundamentally disagree with your assessment of Wenger
but more importantly - the Arsenal 'crisis' might be news to you but in the wide world it doesn't register most big clubs have failed to qualify for the CL at some point
and probably none of us noticed the 'crisis' at AC or at Bayern
none of us changed our opinions of how 'big' those clubs are 95% of players only care about wages anyway
and we pay well compared to most clubs
Yes a lot of big clubs have failed to make the champs league at one stage or another but the crucial point is that those clubs didnt lose their best players at that time and that point seems to have been missed by everybody Missing out on the champs league alone could be passed off as an unfortunate blip but losing your best players, especially your european/foreign players sends out a loud message across europe that every potential transfer target will see
Do you seriously think he would be lauded all over Europe on his last 6 years performance? Just qualifying for the CL? Collapsing towards the end of several seasons? Slowly asset stripping a club? Getting into excellent positions in the CL group stages after 3 games and throwing the next 3 games on several occasions? It's not very impressive at all considering the size and resources available at the club.
What Wenger once had disappeared a long time ago and he is slowly destroying his own reputation year on year.
But people don't watch Arsenal as much. From the outside you see Arsenal as consistantly challenging at the top of the league. You see constant CL qualification. We're regarded as a great football team. I'm not defending him, or even saying I agree with the reputation but from the outside he is viewed as complete visionary and great manager.
jonny3110 wrote:Just don't understand why you've put there's not a problem with attracting great players to Arsenal, then going on to mention one player who never played for us alongside 6 players who did that is all? Like me saying "Chelsea always get their man don't they, Eto'o, Terry, Mata, Cole and Essien."
hope you're right and we do go through
Song/Frimpong is a solidbase
I thought the conversation was specifically about whether Wenger attracts good players hence mentioning a raft of his signings
rigsby wrote:But people don't watch Arsenal as much. From the outside you see Arsenal as consistantly challenging at the top of the league. You see constant CL qualification. We're regarded as a great football team. I'm not defending him, or even saying I agree with the reputation but from the outside he is viewed as complete visionary and great manager.
I sometimes think people on the outside who dont watch too many games could have a clearer perspective
rigsby wrote:But people don't watch Arsenal as much. From the outside you see Arsenal as consistantly challenging at the top of the league. You see constant CL qualification. We're regarded as a great football team. I'm not defending him, or even saying I agree with the reputation but from the outside he is viewed as complete visionary and great manager.
I sometimes think people on the outside who dont watch too many games could have a clearer perspective
Missing out on the champs league alone could be passed off as an unfortunate blip but losing your best players, especially your european/foreign players sends out a loud message across europe that every potential transfer target will see 
