Season Ticket holders - Europa League 2012/13

[SteveO 35]

It is also about time the club started to bring in one or two more top players.as we have the highest ticket prices we should expect the best players to watch.

in recent years there has been Bergkamp, Henry, Vieria then Fabregas and now we are left with RVP. If RVP leaves and is not adequately replaced I will think twice about buying tickets in future. That goes for any competition we are involved in. Not because I couldn't be bothered to go but just because it wouldn't represent value for money.

Does that involve bringing Denilson back from his loan deal though Red?

[Red Member]

no we need an Arshavin type signing and fast!

[clockender1]

All I can say is watch our for announcements within the next couple of weeks and if anyone wants to get on board, then get out from behind the keyboard and join us in organising.

Reg, to answer this and your other comment - why wait 'a few weeks' ?

it's not difficult to organise a protest these days - it's very simple.

post a suggested email to the club on here and other forums, mailing lists - and ask people to email the club.

then you email the local papers - the Gazette, Standard etc and let them know you are emailing the club and why.

You also encourage people to write to the papers - the papers love a story and controversy.

and the clubs hate bad publicity.

then you ask the club for a meeting. all the while keeping the papers informed.


I have organised several successful political campaigns that way - about environmental or fishing regulations that way.

& i did try on the predecessor to here and the original arsenal mailing list to oppose the move to Highbury and I was shouted down - i remember one particular mad woman who in 2000 said that it was unfair that her and her two kids couldn't get tickets to games, and so the family went to the ground, ate and drank outside and listened to it on the radio (????)

the 20,000 or so of us ST holders at that just weren't listened to, but i did try....

[augie]

All I can say is watch our for announcements within the next couple of weeks and if anyone wants to get on board, then get out from behind the keyboard and join us in organising.

Reg, to answer this and your other comment - why wait 'a few weeks' ?

it's not difficult to organise a protest these days - it's very simple.

post a suggested email to the club on here and other forums, mailing lists - and ask people to email the club.

then you email the local papers - the Gazette, Standard etc and let them know you are emailing the club and why.

You also encourage people to write to the papers - the papers love a story and controversy.

and the clubs hate bad publicity.

then you ask the club for a meeting. all the while keeping the papers informed.


I have organised several successful political campaigns that way - about environmental or fishing regulations that way.

& i did try on the predecessor to here and the original arsenal mailing list to oppose the move to Highbury and I was shouted down - i remember one particular mad woman who in 2000 said that it was unfair that her and her two kids couldn't get tickets to games, and so the family went to the ground, ate and drank outside and listened to it on the radio (????)

the 20,000 or so of us ST holders at that just weren't listened to, but i did try....

Easy to organise a protest but not so easy to organise a successful protest - basically any of us could organise a protest and get a few dozen marching but to make a reap point you need to have a strong turnout and that requires a lot of work from more than one person. All that being said I do believe that it is far from impossible to do it but one (or more) of these groups needs to do it with absolute conviction and not just as a token gesture to worry the club. The future successes of any protest would be all but wiped out if a half arsed mickey mouse protest march was organised first so a strong first step is absolutely vital. However I will again say that I do question whether any of these groups as a unit (as oposed to individuals within the groups) have the necessary balls to really take on the club and risk losing their spot at the clubs table

I know that it will be said that it is easy for me to say all this from over here in Ireland and I accept that entirely. I will say with absolute certainty that if I lived over there I would be right in the middle of any planned protest and would def do all I could to rally the Gooner faithful to take on the club. I find it quite sad that many long established Gooners no longer attend matches or have given up their season tickets until things change but I also feel that throwing their weight behind these protests should also be on their agenda to help us all achieve our goal to get this club back on the right road

[worthing_gooner]

Just to add, I do think that although many people say Arsenal fans are probably 75% content, 25% annoyed, I'd say this figure is way off.

Any sustained protest against the club would certainly gather momentum. From talking to other fans, I think it's quite obvious that there are many "quietly dissatisfied" about the situation. They wouldn't necessarily be actively involved in the protests, but they would certainly come down more on that side than on the clubs side in the event of any long running dispute.

[clockender1]

Easy to organise a protest but not so easy to organise a successful protest - basically any of us could organise a protest and get a few dozen marching but to make a reap point you need to have a strong turnout

why do you need a march ?

no offence, but that's backward thinking in today's world.

publicity is the name of the game yeah ? - whether its people on the street, or emails, the aim is the same yes ?

you can also start emailing the clubs sponsors and owners of boxes and start asking them for tricky comments - like will they be renegotiating advertising rates and box costs.

it only needs a couple of those box owners to contact the club about next and the club will go into full lockdown panic mode.

no need for herberts on the street IMHO chaps.

c1.

[clockender1]

I think it's quite obvious that there are many "quietly dissatisfied" about the situation. They wouldn't necessarily be actively involved in the protests, but they would certainly come down more on that side than on the clubs side in the event of any long running dispute.

those are the people you need to target.

email is a very powerful weapon these days.

[Reg Niseth]

All I can say is watch our for announcements within the next couple of weeks and if anyone wants to get on board, then get out from behind the keyboard and join us in organising.

Reg, to answer this and your other comment - why wait 'a few weeks' ?

it's not difficult to organise a protest these days - it's very simple.

post a suggested email to the club on here and other forums, mailing lists - and ask people to email the club.

then you email the local papers - the Gazette, Standard etc and let them know you are emailing the club and why.

You also encourage people to write to the papers - the papers love a story and controversy.

and the clubs hate bad publicity.

then you ask the club for a meeting. all the while keeping the papers informed.


I have organised several successful political campaigns that way - about environmental or fishing regulations that way.

& i did try on the predecessor to here and the original arsenal mailing list to oppose the move to Highbury and I was shouted down - i remember one particular mad woman who in 2000 said that it was unfair that her and her two kids couldn't get tickets to games, and so the family went to the ground, ate and drank outside and listened to it on the radio (????)

the 20,000 or so of us ST holders at that just weren't listened to, but i did try....

I do know the club read various forums, blogs etc. and when we begin our campaign we'll not be letting them know what our planbs are before we're ready to go ahead.

As I said before, the people behind the BSM are successful people and will ensure everythung is in place before going ahead. It would be very easy for ONE of us to set something up, but if it hasn't been thought through properly could backfire completely.

Something will be in place in a couple, not a few, weeks. The first part is to get a response, or not, from the club. . .. then we'll take it from there.

As you claim to have orhganised campaigns in the past you wil understand the response, or not, will determine what step we take . . . but be assured we will be taking steps.

And in response to another poster, the BSM are not worried about losing their place at the top table. We've only just arrived so have nothing to lose by criticising the club.

[clockender1]

Something will be in place in a couple, not a few, weeks. The first part is to get a response, or not, from the club. . .. then we'll take it from there.

As you claim to have orhganised campaigns in the past you wil understand the response, or not, will determine what step we take . . . but be assured we will be taking steps.

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why is the first part to get a response from the club ? - don't we know the answer already ?

and the campaigns i've worked on in the past, create publicity for the issue first - then you propose and wait for a response, otherwise what leverage on the club do you have ???

the club can procrastinate for a months, and then you have to organise. but by being proactive you have leverage and you can set the agenda, rather than being reactive and letting the club set the agenda.

[Reg Niseth]

Something will be in place in a couple, not a few, weeks. The first part is to get a response, or not, from the club. . .. then we'll take it from there.

As you claim to have orhganised campaigns in the past you wil understand the response, or not, will determine what step we take . . . but be assured we will be taking steps.

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why is the first part to get a response from the club ? - don't we know the answer already ?

and the campaigns i've worked on in the past, create publicity for the issue first - then you propose and wait for a response, otherwise what leverage on the club do you have ???

the club can procrastinate for a months, and then you have to organise. but by being proactive you have leverage and you can set the agenda, rather than being reactive and letting the club set the agenda.

Why a response? 'cos we've made suggestions and want answers.
Create publicity first - ticket prices are already out there
The club can procrastinate for months - they might, but we won't.

Let's not lose sight of the fact this is a club we all love. We would prefer not to wash our dirty laundry in public . . . but if that's the only way it can be done, so be it . . . but from our part in this 'relationship' we'd prefer not to.

If we are to get support, then being able to show we've gone about it correctly and still been shafted will get us that support.

[clockender1]

Let's not lose sight of the fact this is a club we all love. We would prefer not to wash our dirty laundry in public . . . but if that's the only way it can be done, so be it . . . but from our part in this 'relationship' we'd prefer not to.

fair enough, i reckon.

not the way i'd do things though - and I say that only because the club has ignored us on so many things in the past, like the Crest, away kits etc.

i'd be happy to send any emails etc once you lot make a decision.

[clockender1]

oh, and for what it's worth, i'd like to see EL and CC games at a fiver each for kids.

I was lucky enough to get taken up The Arsenal by a next door neighbour when I was 8, we need to make sure the future generations are taken care of too.

there's obviously a huge demand for football amongst kids - anyone that's watched the sell-out U-21 games can see that.

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[Reg Niseth]

oh, and for what it's worth, i'd like to see EL and CC games at a fiver each for kids.

I was lucky enough to get taken up The Arsenal by a next door neighbour when I was 8, we need to make sure the future generations are taken care of too.

there's obviously a huge demand for football amongst kids - anyone that's watched the sell-out U-21 games can see that.

c1.

fair play for admitting that on this site . . . did you 'phone Esther

[flash gunner]

oh, and for what it's worth, i'd like to see EL and CC games at a fiver each for kids.

I was lucky enough to get taken up The Arsenal by a next door neighbour when I was 8, we need to make sure the future generations are taken care of too.

there's obviously a huge demand for football amongst kids - anyone that's watched the sell-out U-21 games can see that.

c1.

ooooohhhh matron

[flash gunner]

oh, and for what it's worth, i'd like to see EL and CC games at a fiver each for kids.

I was lucky enough to get taken up The Arsenal by a next door neighbour when I was 8, we need to make sure the future generations are taken care of too.

there's obviously a huge demand for football amongst kids - anyone that's watched the sell-out U-21 games can see that.

c1.

fair play for admitting that on this site . . . did you 'phone Esther