Would Arshavin be good for us

peeps112 · Post by **peeps112** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:34 pm

I think we need to get over ourselves and realize that beggars cant be choosers. I mean sure they guy might be a prat and could be overrated but would you rather have a midfield of Denilson and Song? Taking a chance on this guy is what Man u, Chelsea, and Scouse all do - its foolish to think we are above doing this when we are below all three in the table. I think, if true, it is FINALLY a sign that Wenger will admit his youth experiment is not working, the injuries are more serious than he leads on, and we are in a time of desperation.

RaM · Post by **RaM** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:18 am

When Arshavin linked every team in the world with him in the summer, I was adamant that we shouldn't sign him. Saw him as a player who was trying to make the very most of his 15 minutes of fame and get a massive financial bonus out of it. He seemed way too arrogant, and really, hadn't been proven over the duration of a season.

There were some good performances in the Euro's and I honestly have very limited knowledge of the Russian league.

Now here we are though, January 2009, and I'm glad to see us linked with him!

That's what this season has done to me!

I'm desperate to get anyone of any sort of quality into the midfield in place of what we've used this season and if it has to be Arshavin so be it. If anything his greed might simply complement Greedybayor's.

But the rumoured 20k had best not be true.

If Wenger goes out and spends that having let so many potential signings of lesser value slip (not to mention Flamini) then I will be unhappy.

I'd say 12k might be reasonable. But even that has me hesitant.

I still do not know very much about Arshavin, although if Wenger rates him I'll have to trust Le Boss.

goonersid · Post by **goonersid** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:38 am

Thats the point, can we trust le boss, after Reyes, Hleb,Jeffers, Rosicky(cos we all knew how injury prone he was and not up to the physical sideof the prem),and then his failed attempt to buy the hapless Baptista.
I think Arshavin is a decent player, he will probably get off to a good start then very like Reyes, then he will start sulking and feeling homesick, and basically cause trouble(I hear he has been threatening to go on strike at Zenit, hardly a professional attitude.
I think previous experience has shown that players who take a while to settle usually deliver more in the end ie Bergkamp, Henry, Pires.
The more worrying thing is Wenger should be signing a centre half and defensive midfielder, yet again he is ignoring the obvious or is blind to it.

NBM · Post by **NBM** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:45 am

RaM wrote:When Arshavin linked every team in the world with him in the summer, I was adamant that we shouldn't sign him. Saw him as a player who was trying to make the very most of his 15 minutes of fame and get a massive financial bonus out of it. He seemed way too arrogant, and really, hadn't been proven over the duration of a season.

There were some good performances in the Euro's and I honestly have very limited knowledge of the Russian league.

Now here we are though, January 2009, and I'm glad to see us linked with him!

That's what this season has done to me!

I'm desperate to get anyone of any sort of quality into the midfield in place of what we've used this season and if it has to be Arshavin so be it. If anything his greed might simply complement Greedybayor's.

But the rumoured 20k had best not be true. If Wenger goes out and spends that having let so many potential signings of lesser value slip (not to mention Flamini) then I will be unhappy.

I'd say 12k might be reasonable. But even that has me hesitant.

I still do not know very much about Arshavin, although if Wenger rates him I'll have to trust Le Boss.

Personally I think 20k is a bargain!!

RaM · Post by **RaM** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:56 am

Personally I think 20k is a bargain!!

Meant to say 20 million. But in my attempts to avoid using the pounds symbol (I don't know how

) I used k's instead of m's after prices...

...guess Wenger would be happy if I were typing out the transfer deals for him I suppose.

NBM · Post by **NBM** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:56 am

I think we all would!

goonersid · Post by **goonersid** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:01 am

RaM wrote:
Personally I think 20k is a bargain!!

Meant to say 20 million. But in my attempts to avoid using the pounds symbol (I don't know how ) I used k's instead of m's after prices...

...guess Wenger would be happy if I were writing typing out the transfer deals for him I suppose.

IF YOU THINK 20 MIL IS A BARGAIN THEN YOU ARE AN IDIOT !

Post by **SPUDMASHER** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:35 am

We should all be glad that we do actually appear to be going for this guy. This is what we wanted isn't it? We've been asking AW to sign established players to give us more quality, experience and depth and that is what he is doing.
So why is it I still feel this is not a good thing? Why is it I still feel that AW is ignoring our obvious areas of weakness (CB & DM) to sign another attacking player?
Like I said, we should be glad that we appear to be doing something positive. I just think that this isn't the answer.

NBM · Post by **NBM** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:36 am

goonersid wrote:
RaM wrote:
Personally I think 20k is a bargain!!

Meant to say 20 million. But in my attempts to avoid using the pounds symbol (I don't know how ) I used k's instead of m's after prices...

...guess Wenger would be happy if I were writing typing out the transfer deals for him I suppose.
IF YOU THINK 20 MIL IS A BARGAIN THEN YOU ARE AN IDIOT !

Indeed

FOXYARSENAL · Post by **FOXYARSENAL** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:53 am

Like I said, we should be glad that we appear to be doing something positive. I just think that this isn't the answer.

thats exactly how aye feel to spud,glad to hear movement in transfers but aye fear that arshavin isnt for us he maybe would be a good player to have if we didnt need cb and dm first,hope am wrong and he can make a big difference if he comes to us ,we wait and hope eh!!

augie · Post by **augie** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:15 am

goonersid wrote:
RaM wrote:
Personally I think 20k is a bargain!!

Meant to say 20 million. But in my attempts to avoid using the pounds symbol (I don't know how ) I used k's instead of m's after prices...

...guess Wenger would be happy if I were writing typing out the transfer deals for him I suppose.
IF YOU THINK 20 MIL IS A BARGAIN THEN YOU ARE AN IDIOT !

Read the thread properly sid before you call somebody an idiot - ram said 20k was too much when he meant to say 20m and nbm told him with a wink emoticon (meaning in jest) that 20k would be a bargain so absolutely no need to call anybody an idiot and you should also lose the caps because you will find most members on here dont appreciate tham.

I should also say that I think you are being harsh on wenger regarding some of his signings. Yes some of them didnt work out but show me a manager that hasnt made a few bad buys. As someone who has been very critical of wenger I get very annoyed when he refuses to sign anybody much less older experienced players so the fact that he is going after arshavin at all suggests that he may be now seeing the folly of his ways. I honestly doubt that we will get him and I agree wholeheartidly that we do have other priorities but we do need an injection of quality all over the pitch and as rebel says, playing arshavin on the wing is a much much better option that having diaby, denilson or eboue out there

Number 5 · Post by **Number 5** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:31 am

I couldn't see Arshavin taking time to settle in. For a start it's probably as cold here now as it is in Russia so he should be able to hit the ground running so to speak. It's not like he's coming from a sunny climate or is relatively young as Reyes was so shouldn't miss home too much. Yes we have important area's to address midfiled wise and in defense and if Fabregas wasn't out for 4 months I don't think this would even be on the horizon. But if Wenger did go out and fix the area's we all agree needed we would be short of our most creative player who we channel everything through attack wise. So we'd be more solid defensively but lose a massive part of our offense. We;ve gone from lacking on one side of the ball to being in trouble on the other side in just a few weeks. I'd go for one of each in this window, an attacker and a defensive midfielder if we couldn't get all 3.

barnfield88 · Post by **barnfield88** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:34 am

According to papers he asking for 100k a week..... if thats true then he wont be coming

piresistible · Post by **piresistible** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:47 am

my take on arshavin is, 20 million is out of the question,and with his buyout clause,12 million is more realistic,or a loan deal until the end of the season,though his 90k a week will have to come down. bedntner will be sold this month on a part exchange deal with some sort of defensive holding midfield player,as wenger has publically stated that his patience has run out with him. toure may leave on the same principle as above,though i feel it would be an unwise move as he obviously hasn't recovered from his malaria bout,and personally i would rather see gallas go in the summer,as it is clear too many players don't see eye to eye with him.i haven't got a problem with inflated egos in a winning team(sherringham/cole) but not when we lack consistency.Surely the priority is to bolster the defence first and foremost and buy or part exchange players from within our league,so at least insure 4th spot.I will say in wenger's defence,if he has had little or no money in these last 18 months,he has done a tremendous job to keep us in or around the top 4.on the other hand,if money was available,and he is hell bent on this youth policy,he is answerable to more and more fans as the weeks go on.

ramon · Post by **ramon** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:37 am

Zenit St Petersburg have told Sky Sports News that talks are taking place with Arsenal regarding a deal for Andrei Arshavin.

But why?

By going public about the deal before a price has been agreed and saying the deal is 10 days to 2weeks Zenit are merely trying to temp other clubs to enter the bidding.

Zenit want top money for the player and Arsenal are trying to sign him on the cheap.By telling the world that Arsenal are in talks all of the big boys will now try and sign him from under Wengers nose.

Very clear from Zenit and this will no doubt piss Arsenal and Wenger off.I dont know what takes Arsenal so long to tie up a transfer deal. It seems to go on and on for weeks before its completed.

I doubt this deal will happen.