Would Arshavin be good for us

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Would Arshavin be good for us

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I am not saying we should believe all we read but reports continue to say Arshavin is coming to Arsenal.

I have doubts about him. He played well in the UEFA cup but in truth it is the first season he has done anything noticable and he's 27 now.

I just think after one good season for him to come out and say to the press "I can play for Barcalona or Madrid" shows his mind set that he is the best thing since sliced bread. Also do we really want another player that will use us to show off his skills and then fuck off elsewhere?

I believe he wants a Barcalona move and because that is not happening he will use us as a stepping stone. I could be wrong but I honestly thing I'm right.

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Half decent player but well over priced and over hyped. I would prefer we didn't sign him unless it was steal of the century.

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Wayno wrote:Half decent player but well over priced and over hyped. I would prefer we didn't sign him unless it was steal of the century.
Thats a point in itself. £20 million would be our record fee for a player.
Imagine if he flopped because he couldn't live up to the hype.

It's a massive gamble if we get him.

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I'm not sure where I stand on the possibility of signing arshavin - on one hand I do think he has shown enough to suggest that he can play but on the other hand has he shown enough to suggest that he can do it consistantly and can he stand up to the physical nature of this league ? I do feel that it is somewhat unfair of us to assume that he isnt good enough or is just a one season wonder cos we aint heard of him before this year - I mean lets be honest which of us are avid followers of the russian league plus of course we live in a media zone that thinks the sun rises and sets with the premier league so that can be misleading.

What I will say is this....we need a few quality signings in jan (not 1 or 2 arsene :roll: ) and these signings would need to be able to bring proven quality, no small amount of physical toughness and of course some much needed experience. Now I also believe that, as a club, we need to make 1 really big signing to show all those that are writing our epitaph that we are not a club on the decline but a club that is on the way back. The club need to send out a message to the fans, sponsors and rival clubs that we are not going to sit idly by and give up all that we as a club have worked so hard for over the last few years and that we are ambitious, not just in talk but also in actions, to make this club the number 1 club in the world 8) I believe that it is also important to show that ambition to all our players so that players like cesc can see genuine reasons to stay and players like diaby, bedtner, eboue(no point in mentioning song :roll: ) etc will see that we are no longer willing to indulge them when they are playing shit - from here on in it is up to the players to up their quality and performances to our level and not up to the club to drop their standards to those players levels so shape up or get the fcuk out

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augie wrote:I'm not sure where I stand on the possibility of signing arshavin - on one hand I do think he has shown enough to suggest that he can play but on the other hand has he shown enough to suggest that he can do it consistantly and can he stand up to the physical nature of this league ? I do feel that it is somewhat unfair of us to assume that he isnt good enough or is just a one season wonder cos we aint heard of him before this year - I mean lets be honest which of us are avid followers of the russian league plus of course we live in a media zone that thinks the sun rises and sets with the premier league so that can be misleading.

What I will say is this....we need a few quality signings in jan (not 1 or 2 arsene :roll: ) and these signings would need to be able to bring proven quality, no small amount of physical toughness and of course some much needed experience. Now I also believe that, as a club, we need to make 1 really big signing to show all those that are writing our epitaph that we are not a club on the decline but a club that is on the way back. The club need to send out a message to the fans, sponsors and rival clubs that we are not going to sit idly by and give up all that we as a club have worked so hard for over the last few years and that we are ambitious, not just in talk but also in actions, to make this club the number 1 club in the world 8) I believe that it is also important to show that ambition to all our players so that players like cesc can see genuine reasons to stay and players like diaby, bedtner, eboue(no point in mentioning song :roll: ) etc will see that we are no longer willing to indulge them when they are playing shit - from here on in it is up to the players to up their quality and performances to our level and not up to the club to drop their standards to those players levels so shape up or get the fcuk out
Fair comment, what big names would you want if you were manager?

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if we dont sign Arshavin we need to sign someone similar who can hold the ball for more than 1 second can beat a man and pass to a teamate which none of the clowns who currently play in midfield can do.

the comment that he did well in the eufa cup bodes well for us because thats where we will be playing next season if this shower dont pull ther fingers out :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

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To be honest mate I am not really sure and although arshavin isnt top star material I think he would meet the criteria to be classed as high profile 8)
Ideally I wanted us to sell greedybayor for the big money that was on offer and sign a genuine top quality striker like villa where at worst we could have broken even on the deals but of course it wasnt meant to be :cry: I have and will advocate the need for 1 big big signing but again I will stress that the main criteria any signing must have is the quality and experience and fill a need that we have in our team - I mean there is no point in signing a left back or right back when we already have 2 of the best there is. My wish list would def include shay given though and I have to say that I would like to bring PV4 back for a season or 2 to bring experience, leadership, physical strength and presence plus a genuine love for the club that he can transmit to those younger players who dont seem to give a fcuk :roll:

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for those that dont want him i ask one question,
eboue diaby or denilson on the wing or a proven scoring international in arshavin :?:

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REBEL GOONER wrote:for those that dont want him i ask one question,
eboue diaby or denilson on the wing or a proven scoring international in arshavin :?:
Is Arshavin a proven goal scorer?

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if like the papers say we are going to spend £20+ on one player ( im not convinced) then surely we should go for someone better, who can give us a spark straight away like david silva or frank ribery to provide creativity and width. ribery might be a bit more than £20m but im not sure how long he has to run on his contract and what would an extra £5m be for a better player and basically paid for by the diarra/bentley sell on clause money we got. david silvas only problem might be physically but seeing the way he has played for spain and valencia he would give us a left footed player who provides genuine width. i hope wengers latest quotes on two midfielders are genuine and are a CDM and a winger/striker. My no1 choice would be yaya toure, but with his latest quotes im not sure he would come. (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 39,00.html) so realistically i would go for gokhan inler, who would cost £10m? and hopefully this can patch up our need for a CB. im not sure arshavin would settle down straight away, like we need, plus i think he is overrated. surely if he was that good he wouldnt be playing in russia, someone would of boguht him by now at the age of 27.

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rtpgooner wrote:if like the papers say we are going to spend £20+ on one player ( im not convinced) then surely we should go for someone better, who can give us a spark straight away like david silva or frank ribery to provide creativity and width. ribery might be a bit more than £20m but im not sure how long he has to run on his contract and what would an extra £5m be for a better player and basically paid for by the diarra/bentley sell on clause money we got. david silvas only problem might be physically but seeing the way he has played for spain and valencia he would give us a left footed player who provides genuine width. i hope wengers latest quotes on two midfielders are genuine and are a CDM and a winger/striker. My no1 choice would be yaya toure, but with his latest quotes im not sure he would come. (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 39,00.html) so realistically i would go for gokhan inler, who would cost £10m? and hopefully this can patch up our need for a CB. im not sure arshavin would settle down straight away, like we need, plus i think he is overrated. surely if he was that good he wouldnt be playing in russia, someone would of boguht him by now at the age of 27.
Thats my point exactly. I'm not saying he can't be a good signing but I don't think he is all the media make him out to be.

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Arsenal Gu Bragh wrote:Thats my point exactly. I'm not saying he can't be a good signing but I don't think he is all the media make him out to be.
In which case, Wenger won't sign him.

I was impressed with Arshavin for Zenit and Russia, but Wenger's his own man and he isn't daft... he wouldn't sign a player on reputation alone, so if we DO sign him, I'd be confident he'd be good for us.

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g88ner wrote:
Arsenal Gu Bragh wrote:Thats my point exactly. I'm not saying he can't be a good signing but I don't think he is all the media make him out to be.
In which case, Wenger won't sign him.

I was impressed with Arshavin for Zenit and Russia, but Wenger's his own man and he isn't daft... he wouldn't sign a player on reputation alone, so if we DO sign him, I'd be confident he'd be good for us.
That's a good point although Wenger has also signed Cyagn, Jeffers, Wright, Igor Stevenos, Eboue, Reyes. Lets hope if we get Arshavin he won't join that list.

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Arsenal Gu Bragh wrote:That's a good point although Wenger has also signed Cyagn, Jeffers, Wright, Igor Stevenos, Eboue, Reyes. Lets hope if we get Arshavin he won't join that list.
True, but even great managers make mistakes and I think it's a little harsh to use that as a stick to beat him with.

Wenger has also made plenty of smashing signings over the years, and from interviews in recent months, it would seem that Wenger really rates Arshavin.

It probably won't happen and we might yet be priced out, but as long as we're also looking for a CM (which HAS to be the priority!) then I'd be pleased to see a top quality offensive player come to Arsenal... and maybe Arshavin is that man. Who knows.

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Arsenal Gu Bragh wrote:
REBEL GOONER wrote:for those that dont want him i ask one question,
eboue diaby or denilson on the wing or a proven scoring international in arshavin :?:
Is Arshavin a proven goal scorer?
scorer and provider, and for those that say we dont need him then i say the more quality in the squad the better :roll:

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