Your choice as manager/Arteta Merged thread

[Bradywasking]

While I am still hoping for Allegri in hindsight I realise the structure put in place by Arsenal to remove Wenger wasn't going to go away when that job was done. That structure was put in place to bring in a coach rather than a manager to work under that umbrella structure.
I wonder was Allegri ever an option or was it spin? I don't know the answer to that, but it is possible I suppose.
In January after Forest away in the Cup and the top four even fading for us we would have taken this option just to remove Wenger.
We have little or no attraction for an Allegri, Ancelotti or even Enrique. We have ,apparently, a limited budget , and as much as we dislike the bloated Champions League it is an attraction for potential managers and players. I know Chelsea won't be in the Champions League either but with the players they have and the finances they have they are a better option for a top manager than we are.
I would take Conte, not a favourite of some on here, but he has a passion and has recent history of success in two countries.
In reality I think it will be Arteta ,Not my choice but that is where Arsenal are at the moment.

I really dont see why any of this would be a problem when it comes to recruiting a coach from europe Yes there might be issues with the transfer budget, and yes there might be issues with the managers salary, but most of european clubs operate a system where the manager has no part in transfers, so why should working in that system here by a problem for allegri/ancelotti/enrique ? Of course there might be issues with how much input the manager would have with selecting the players he wants, but tbh after that it should be left to other people to deal with transfers - isnt that what we have all said on here for years when we have bemoaned the fact that the french cock wanted to be involved in everything ?

Not aiming this at you here buddy, but all I am seeing on here lately is excuses for why we couldnt get a top manager, and I'm not buying any of them - we have the resources and we have the infastructure in place to get a top manager, and the only thing in question is if the club have the will and desire to get a top manager. We have a better set up than the chavs, are a bigger club than the chavs, they cant offer champs league next season either, and their managers will have far less job security than our's, but nobody questions whether they will get a top manager cos it is accepted that they will spend the money necessary to make it happen. We rightly doubt our clubs willingness to do the same, but yet we (and the meeja) give the club an out everytime we suggest/repeat the theory that it is our behind the scenes set-up which will prevent us from getting a top manager - there will be zero excuses that I will accept if we point arteta, and gazidas and the club are dead to me if/when that

Augie I agree it shouldn't be a problem in theory but in reality there is no attraction for a top manager and maybe there is no appetite within Arsenal for a powerful manager.im not condoning that just saying it may be a fact of life. In many instances Augie you are answering your own questions. There is no logical reason why Arsenal cannot strive to have a top manager except those top managers might not see logic in joining Arsenal..Maybe the short term idea of an Ancelotti was a good one. The carnage of Wenger's last ten years needs to be brutally tidied up (already started it seems) . I'm trying to be logical and when I do that I can't see Arsenal being attractive to the top managers even if we want them. Also there are no clear candidates among top managers..They are all tied to jobs at present.Again I am not saying that is a good reason not to want them but it is a good reason for them not to want us.

[1989]

Let's not forget the fact that Arteta would be under massive pressure to deliver right away as well and for someone who has as much football management experience as Online Gooner forum members, it's a tall ask. If he's not producing results immediately the fans could turn very quickly. It could destroy his managerial career before it had even started.

This really would be a suicidal appointment for all parties.

[Gunner Rob]

Arteta 1/4 with William Hill

just a matter of time before he is announced.

[Gunner Rob]

scenes when Arteta announces Wenger as part of his backroom staff

[elpelsarmy]

It's all there in plain sight people:-

The big names we want are concerned by the club structure

The club's new structure indicates that we are getting a coach not a manager

Kroenke believes that an inexperienced coach having worked at the Rams will work here - and doesn't really care if it doesn't. (Hey Augie, don't forget......Apples + oranges = bananas )

Gazidis isn't going to allow anything approaching another wenker situation to happen on his watch. He wants day to day control now.

Arteta is going to be a cheap option

Arteta will be happy to put up with the bullshit - including getting lumbered with Bould and the mad German

Our board are a bunch of fuckwits that took far far too long to kneecap wenker

Our board know Arteta and that he has sat next to Pep for a while so is now a football genius by association.

I want Allegri too folks but I have no faith in the board. Remember even without wenker they are still the same shower of shit.

Its ok people keep saying I want Allegri, we should get Allegri etc etc but if Allegri doesnt want to come what can the club do? Juve want him and he wants to stay at Juve so whats the point in keep banging on about him?
I couldnt care less if Arteta is the cheap option if he does the job and no-one knows if he can do it because he hasnt done it before, why do we all assume he will be rubbish because he doesn't have experience? Pep clearly thinks a lot of him so he must have something, I bet Ancellotti cost Munich a fortune last year, 6 months later they sacked him, in football, cheap does not mean shit, maybe it means being shrewd and not paying over the top for mediocrity? My only worry is that he will be a yes man for the board but again, we dont know that, we are all guessing but it seems we are all assuming the worst, it could go the other way people! lets hope

People's issue with this choice is why we're settling for someone with zero management experience when there are viable options available out there for the role, which is a very valid argument. Arteta could be the new Pep and bloody Fergie rolled into one type of genius for all we know but what matters at the minute is that we as a club are not in a position to risk finding that out. It's highly unlikely that he's the man to turn around our fortunes; heck, we don't even know anything about him as a manager as there is nothing to go on! At the end of the day we're a 6th placed team that is need of serious surgery and that requires bringing in a manager with top level experience and pedigree who has a track record of improving and elevating teams, end of.

Yeah I agree with most of what you say but the negativity around Arteta is way over the top, it might be a genius appointment, but the way people are talking on here is that he will definitely be shit, truth be told I like the fact that he knows the club and we know him, average player but maybe a top manager??? lets give him our support and hope for the best if it is him eh?

[RobG]

scenes when Arteta announces Wenger as part of his backroom staff

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[IW8Goalmachine]

The scariest part about all this is that the AKBs might reinvent themselves as the the....erm....AKBs or the MKBs

[augie]

scenes when Arteta announces Wenger as part of his backroom staff

The back room staff too will be a major issue too - if you are experienced coach, would you come and serve under a guy with ZERO managerial experience, and who has no real standing in world football ? Would you leave another job to join a scenario which has a high risk of disaster written all over it, cos if that panned out like that, all the coaching staff with also be jobless within a year. Make no mistake, a rookie manager needs experienced qualified coaches around him, and I doubt there will be too many of them lining up to be second in command (or lower) to arteta

[1989]

Wonder what world class players will be lining up to join the Arteta revolution.

I'm already gutted tbh.

[Jock Gooner]

scenes when Arteta announces Wenger as part of his backroom staff

What an evil and warped mind you have mate

SSN now running with Arteta as favourite for the job. I have nothing against the guy and I would absolutely want him to succeed - who knows he might. My beef with an Arteta appointment is the degree of risk involved and the timing. More importantly it also tells us where we are as a club in the scheme of things right now.

[1989]

scenes when Arteta announces Wenger as part of his backroom staff

The back room staff too will be a major issue too - if you are experienced coach, would you come and serve under a guy with ZERO managerial experience, and who has no real standing in world football ? Would you leave another job to join a scenario which has a high risk of disaster written all over it, cos if that panned out like that, all the coaching staff with also be jobless within a year. Make no mistake, a rookie manager needs experienced qualified coaches around him, and I doubt there will be too many of them lining up to be second in command (or lower) to arteta

The Telegraph alluded to this already - apparently Bould doesn't want to stay and be number 2 to Arteta since he's younger and was coached by him a few years ago.

[Gunner Rob]

Betting now been suspended on Arteta to take over

[rodders999]

"Couched" by Bould???

[rodders999]

Wenger used to ridicule anyone with an opinion on how shite we were with the barb - they have managed zero games. Now we're replacing him with someone who's done exactly that.

Oh the delicious irony

[Bradywasking]

The title of this thread us "Your choice as manager ".. Mine is Allegri..Maybe we need another thread to discuss who we believe will be the new manager...Now wouldn't that (another thread) melt DB10's head.?