Your choice as manager/Arteta Merged thread

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Who Do YOU Want As Next Arsenal Manager

Ancelotti
27
21%
Tuchel
1
1%
Allegri
62
49%
PV4
7
6%
Enrique
3
2%
Jardim
6
5%
Nagelsmann
1
1%
Rodgers
1
1%
Arteta
4
3%
Others
15
12%
 
Total votes: 127

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Re: Your Choice As Manager

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Ed Hunter The Gooner wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 5:30 am
I don't know why but I have a strong feeling that all this Arteta talk is just a smokescreen to keep the attention away from the real negotiations. Sacking half of the backroom staff and appointing no mark manager just doesn't make any sense.
I hope you're right mate - What puzzles me is if any of the journo's actually knew something / anything they would leak it or drop a huge hint - Also all all these rumours driven by the Bookmakers to make some extra dosh? - It only serves them to keep having different faces jockeying for pole position.


If Arteta was appointed it would be the WRONG move.


Gazidis & Co by getting rid of Wenger a year earlier than he intended and especially as we all know it was against his wishes, they have managed to bring the majority of Gooners back together and on-side with the club - At least till the appointment is announced.


I think they already have everything/ the replacement sorted, they are waiting for the right time - share prices/best media coverage etc etc etc


There's Only ONE ALLEGRI!!!! :barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf:

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OneBardGooner wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 7:33 am
Ed Hunter The Gooner wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 5:30 am
I don't know why but I have a strong feeling that all this Arteta talk is just a smokescreen to keep the attention away from the real negotiations. Sacking half of the backroom staff and appointing no mark manager just doesn't make any sense.
I hope you're right mate - What puzzles me is if any of the journo's actually knew something / anything they would leak it or drop a huge hint - Also all all these rumours driven by the Bookmakers to make some extra dosh? - It only serves them to keep having different faces jockeying for pole position.


If Arteta was appointed it would be the WRONG move.


Gazidis & Co by getting rid of Wenger a year earlier than he intended and especially as we all know it was against his wishes, they have managed to bring the majority of Gooners back together and on-side with the club - At least till the appointment is announced.


I think they already have everything/ the replacement sorted, they are waiting for the right time - share prices/best media coverage etc etc etc


There's Only ONE ALLEGRI!!!! :barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf:
Hope youre right pal

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Re: Your Choice As Manager

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OneBardGooner wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 7:33 am
Ed Hunter The Gooner wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 5:30 am
I don't know why but I have a strong feeling that all this Arteta talk is just a smokescreen to keep the attention away from the real negotiations. Sacking half of the backroom staff and appointing no mark manager just doesn't make any sense.
I hope you're right mate - What puzzles me is if any of the journo's actually knew something / anything they would leak it or drop a huge hint - Also all all these rumours driven by the Bookmakers to make some extra dosh? - It only serves them to keep having different faces jockeying for pole position.


If Arteta was appointed it would be the WRONG move.


Gazidis & Co by getting rid of Wenger a year earlier than he intended and especially as we all know it was against his wishes, they have managed to bring the majority of Gooners back together and on-side with the club - At least till the appointment is announced.


I think they already have everything/ the replacement sorted, they are waiting for the right time - share prices/best media coverage etc etc etc


There's Only ONE ALLEGRI!!!! :barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf:
Yep, spot on! Arsenal have sacked backroom staff one by one which I think is a direct result from negotiations with the new manager. They are putting pieces together on every level and will announce the appointment once everything's in place. It will happen very soon I think.

I wouldn't trust anything the media and bookies puts out at the moment. It's like past transfer rumors regarding Arsenal - all just empty talking and pure speculation.

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nut flush gooner wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 6:39 am
Gunner Rob wrote:
Mon May 14, 2018 10:21 pm
With the names now being talked about I really don’t know why we don’t just go for someone like Sean Dyche. Chris Sutton mentioned this on radio 5 earlier - he also absolutely slated possibly appointing Arteta.
If we appointed Dyche, Arsenals status as a big club would be over. If Dyche is the best English manager around right now, is it no surprise we always do fuck all in European Championships and World Cups.

Burnley scored 36 goals this season. Yes 36 fucking goals.

Ohh my fucking life, Arteta now odds on.
I started by saying "the names now being talked about"

obviously if it is Allegri v Dyche it is a no brainer - Allegri.
Arteta v Dyche - i would go with Dyche as he has actually been a manager!!

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Gunner Rob wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 8:02 am
nut flush gooner wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 6:39 am
Gunner Rob wrote:
Mon May 14, 2018 10:21 pm
With the names now being talked about I really don’t know why we don’t just go for someone like Sean Dyche. Chris Sutton mentioned this on radio 5 earlier - he also absolutely slated possibly appointing Arteta.
If we appointed Dyche, Arsenals status as a big club would be over. If Dyche is the best English manager around right now, is it no surprise we always do fuck all in European Championships and World Cups.

Burnley scored 36 goals this season. Yes 36 fucking goals.

Ohh my fucking life, Arteta now odds on.
I started by saying "the names now being talked about"

obviously if it is Allegri v Dyche it is a no brainer - Allegri.
Arteta v Dyche - i would go with Dyche as he has actually been a manager!!
It's actually quite funny if you think about it... Anyone will suffice if other option is Arteta.

If Arteta is actually appointed we go from old baboon of a manager to a guy who hasn't actually managed a single fuck in his life. How hilarious is that? :barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf:

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Ed Hunter The Gooner wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 8:08 am
Gunner Rob wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 8:02 am
nut flush gooner wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 6:39 am
Gunner Rob wrote:
Mon May 14, 2018 10:21 pm
With the names now being talked about I really don’t know why we don’t just go for someone like Sean Dyche. Chris Sutton mentioned this on radio 5 earlier - he also absolutely slated possibly appointing Arteta.
If we appointed Dyche, Arsenals status as a big club would be over. If Dyche is the best English manager around right now, is it no surprise we always do fuck all in European Championships and World Cups.

Burnley scored 36 goals this season. Yes 36 fucking goals.

Ohh my fucking life, Arteta now odds on.
I started by saying "the names now being talked about"

obviously if it is Allegri v Dyche it is a no brainer - Allegri.
Arteta v Dyche - i would go with Dyche as he has actually been a manager!!
It's actually quite funny if you think about it... Anyone will suffice if other option is Arteta.

If Arteta is actually appointed we go from old baboon of a manager to a guy who hasn't actually managed a single fuck in his life. How hilarious is that? :barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf:
i did see someone say that the only reason Arteta is going to be appointed is to keep Arsenal Fan TV going :D

Arteta now 1/2 certainty.

what appears to have happened is that Allegri was their first choice, but doesnt want to come.
there is now complete panic behind the scenes and they are convincing themselves that Arteta will work.

yes there are arguments which I agree with to an extent, BUT overall when you really think about it, to appoint Arteta is probably a disaster waiting to happen...

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Gunner Rob wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 8:17 am
Ed Hunter The Gooner wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 8:08 am
Gunner Rob wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 8:02 am
nut flush gooner wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 6:39 am
Gunner Rob wrote:
Mon May 14, 2018 10:21 pm
With the names now being talked about I really don’t know why we don’t just go for someone like Sean Dyche. Chris Sutton mentioned this on radio 5 earlier - he also absolutely slated possibly appointing Arteta.
If we appointed Dyche, Arsenals status as a big club would be over. If Dyche is the best English manager around right now, is it no surprise we always do fuck all in European Championships and World Cups.

Burnley scored 36 goals this season. Yes 36 fucking goals.

Ohh my fucking life, Arteta now odds on.
I started by saying "the names now being talked about"

obviously if it is Allegri v Dyche it is a no brainer - Allegri.
Arteta v Dyche - i would go with Dyche as he has actually been a manager!!
It's actually quite funny if you think about it... Anyone will suffice if other option is Arteta.

If Arteta is actually appointed we go from old baboon of a manager to a guy who hasn't actually managed a single fuck in his life. How hilarious is that? :barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf:
i did see someone say that the only reason Arteta is going to be appointed is to keep Arsenal Fan TV going :D

Arteta now 1/2 certainty.

what appears to have happened is that Allegri was their first choice, but doesnt want to come.
there is now complete panic behind the scenes and they are convincing themselves that Arteta will work.

yes there are arguments which I agree with to an extent, BUT overall when you really think about it, to appoint Arteta is probably a disaster waiting to happen...
If Arteta happens then it has to be because the club wants to apply different management structure. Perhaps they are looking more coach orientated option to take care training and match management while other people handle all other managerial tasks. So maybe they aren't even looking for a manager in traditional sense?

This worries the fuck outta me but if this will happen so be it. I will support him and hope for the best.

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TeeCee wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 7:23 am
Hoping to see Boro Primorac's name there very soon
He's gone mate, was mentioned this article today - https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football ... s-12536442
Good...couldn't stand the bloke...never even really knew what he did..head coach apparently.

I thought he was the muscle :shock:

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While I am still hoping for Allegri in hindsight I realise the structure put in place by Arsenal to remove Wenger wasn't going to go away when that job was done. That structure was put in place to bring in a coach rather than a manager to work under that umbrella structure.
I wonder was Allegri ever an option or was it spin? I don't know the answer to that, but it is possible I suppose.
In January after Forest away in the Cup and the top four even fading for us we would have taken this option just to remove Wenger.
We have little or no attraction for an Allegri, Ancelotti or even Enrique. We have ,apparently, a limited budget , and as much as we dislike the bloated Champions League it is an attraction for potential managers and players. I know Chelsea won't be in the Champions League either but with the players they have and the finances they have they are a better option for a top manager than we are.
I would take Conte, not a favourite of some on here, but he has a passion and has recent history of success in two countries.
In reality I think it will be Arteta ,Not my choice but that is where Arsenal are at the moment.

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maybe we are all missing the point here - Gazidis has effectively taken the control that Wenger used to have. He is the real next manager of the club.

Arteta will be the coach, but thats all, he is not going to have anything like the say in things that Wenger used to have.

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Hoffenhiem Director of Football says coach Julian Nagelsmann will be 100% at the club next season...SSN.

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I've pretty much assumed its Arteta, fuck this joke of a club, its incredible that people never learn that coaches do not make managers!

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markyp wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 9:30 am
I've pretty much assumed its Arteta, fuck this joke of a club, its incredible that people never learn that coaches do not make managers!
that is because as I have said he will not be a traditional manager - Arteta will only be appointed to coach the players

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DB10GOONER wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 6:27 am
It won't be Arteta. I am so confident of this that if they do appoint him I will post the photos that Rodders sent me of him celebrating in his village naked and semi erect the day Wenger left. :wink:
It will be Arteta - but I am quite happy NOT to see the photos :D

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Bradywasking wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 8:56 am
While I am still hoping for Allegri in hindsight I realise the structure put in place by Arsenal to remove Wenger wasn't going to go away when that job was done. That structure was put in place to bring in a coach rather than a manager to work under that umbrella structure.
I wonder was Allegri ever an option or was it spin? I don't know the answer to that, but it is possible I suppose.
In January after Forest away in the Cup and the top four even fading for us we would have taken this option just to remove Wenger.
We have little or no attraction for an Allegri, Ancelotti or even Enrique. We have ,apparently, a limited budget , and as much as we dislike the bloated Champions League it is an attraction for potential managers and players. I know Chelsea won't be in the Champions League either but with the players they have and the finances they have they are a better option for a top manager than we are.
I would take Conte, not a favourite of some on here, but he has a passion and has recent history of success in two countries.
In reality I think it will be Arteta ,Not my choice but that is where Arsenal are at the moment.




I really dont see why any of this would be a problem when it comes to recruiting a coach from europe :? Yes there might be issues with the transfer budget, and yes there might be issues with the managers salary, but most of european clubs operate a system where the manager has no part in transfers, so why should working in that system here by a problem for allegri/ancelotti/enrique ? Of course there might be issues with how much input the manager would have with selecting the players he wants, but tbh after that it should be left to other people to deal with transfers - isnt that what we have all said on here for years when we have bemoaned the fact that the french cock wanted to be involved in everything ? :roll:

Not aiming this at you here buddy, but all I am seeing on here lately is excuses for why we couldnt get a top manager, and I'm not buying any of them - we have the resources and we have the infastructure in place to get a top manager, and the only thing in question is if the club have the will and desire to get a top manager. We have a better set up than the chavs, are a bigger club than the chavs, they cant offer champs league next season either, and their managers will have far less job security than our's, but nobody questions whether they will get a top manager cos it is accepted that they will spend the money necessary to make it happen. We rightly doubt our clubs willingness to do the same, but yet we (and the meeja) give the club an out everytime we suggest/repeat the theory that it is our behind the scenes set-up which will prevent us from getting a top manager - there will be zero excuses that I will accept if we point arteta, and gazidas and the club are dead to me if/when that happens

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