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Meant to say 20 million. But in my attempts to avoid using the pounds symbol (I don't know how ) I used k's instead of m's after prices...
...guess Wenger would be happy if I were writing typing out the transfer deals for him I suppose.
IF YOU THINK 20 MIL IS A BARGAIN THEN YOU ARE AN IDIOT !
Read the thread properly sid before you call somebody an idiot - ram said 20k was too much when he meant to say 20m and nbm told him with a wink emoticon (meaning in jest) that 20k would be a bargain so absolutely no need to call anybody an idiot and you should also lose the caps because you will find most members on here dont appreciate tham.
I should also say that I think you are being harsh on wenger regarding some of his signings. Yes some of them didnt work out but show me a manager that hasnt made a few bad buys. As someone who has been very critical of wenger I get very annoyed when he refuses to sign anybody much less older experienced players so the fact that he is going after arshavin at all suggests that he may be now seeing the folly of his ways. I honestly doubt that we will get him and I agree wholeheartidly that we do have other priorities but we do need an injection of quality all over the pitch and as rebel says, playing arshavin on the wing is a much much better option that having diaby, denilson or eboue out there
Didn't realise people were so easily ofended by capital letters,must be a literacy problem, as that does seem to be a problem with some of the posts.
However I stick by my criticism of Wenger's "BIG MONEY" signings (apologies to anyone with a fear of capitals, and fuck off to anyone who doesn't appreciate them) but when he has spent over 8k "oops I mean 8mil" then 90% of them have been shite.
goonersid wrote:Thats the point, can we trust le boss, after Reyes, Hleb,Jeffers, Rosicky(cos we all knew how injury prone he was and not up to the physical sideof the prem),and then his failed attempt to buy the hapless Baptista.
Rosicky had no injury problems until after he signed for arsenal
And in the (few) premiership games he has played, he's been up to it physically.
goonersid wrote:Thats the point, can we trust le boss, after Reyes, Hleb,Jeffers, Rosicky(cos we all knew how injury prone he was and not up to the physical sideof the prem),and then his failed attempt to buy the hapless Baptista.
Rosicky had no injury problems until after he signed for arsenal
And in the (few) premiership games he has played, he's been up to it physically.
no sorry mate he was known to have injury problems at his last club
Interesting one this. When I first thought through this I couldn't see where he would fit in once Fabregas returns - now I think I do and I think this could be a smashing signing if he is anything like the player we have seen in the big games - which to me is a sign that he is something good, that he does it then.
Think about our best play last season. It came with Hleb in behind Adebayor linking up with Fabregas. We have lost that ability because while Nasri is talented, he doesn't have Hleb's ability to run in the tightest of spaces or pick a pass in similarly tight spaces (vital when teams defend so deep against us) - he relies more on an open field and doesn't really play behind the front man like Hleb could. Arshavin has similar attributes to Hleb but is quicker and will get into the box and finish as well; in other words he is just a better player. So that is what we will do when we play 1 up front. In other games like Hleb he will play wide left but drift inside constantly to link again with Fabregas and Van Persie as well. He may also drive into the box a bit like Pires could do on his right foot. With Walcott offering a very different threat from the other flank with his pace we would have a threatening side again, with a top player like Nasri on the bench as another option.
This is of course if the deal comes off and it could well not do but think it would be a positive deal if it went through and would offer us a far more cohesive attack than we have at present - let's face it our attack is a problem as well at the moment, it's not just the defence, although a defensive midfielder especially and also a centre back should be sought urgently.
[quote="The Sun"]
ARSENAL are being put off making a formal offer for Zenit St Petersburg's Andrei Arshavin because his £20million asking price is too high.
The 27-year-old's representative, Dennis Lachter, expects the Gunners to haggle over that valuation by Zenit before a deal can be agreed.
"For now, there are not any negotiations going on," said Lachter.
"But I believe in the near future he will be on the move and that next week will bring some news.â€
djhdjh wrote:Interesting one this. When I first thought through this I couldn't see where he would fit in once Fabregas returns - now I think I do and I think this could be a smashing signing if he is anything like the player we have seen in the big games - which to me is a sign that he is something good, that he does it then.
Think about our best play last season. It came with Hleb in behind Adebayor linking up with Fabregas. We have lost that ability because while Nasri is talented, he doesn't have Hleb's ability to run in the tightest of spaces or pick a pass in similarly tight spaces (vital when teams defend so deep against us) - he relies more on an open field and doesn't really play behind the front man like Hleb could. Arshavin has similar attributes to Hleb but is quicker and will get into the box and finish as well; in other words he is just a better player. So that is what we will do when we play 1 up front. In other games like Hleb he will play wide left but drift inside constantly to link again with Fabregas and Van Persie as well. He may also drive into the box a bit like Pires could do on his right foot. With Walcott offering a very different threat from the other flank with his pace we would have a threatening side again, with a top player like Nasri on the bench as another option.
This is of course if the deal comes off and it could well not do but think it would be a positive deal if it went through and would offer us a far more cohesive attack than we have at present - let's face it our attack is a problem as well at the moment, it's not just the defence, although a defensive midfielder especially and also a centre back should be sought urgently.
CB and DCM should obviously be the main priorities still but i think your right about Arshavin, i have been a little sceptical about Arshavin, not about his ability, i think anyone that has saw him a few times can't doubt he has great ability i just think it's possible he won't be able to adapt to premiership football and will therefore be very inconsistent. But the more i've thought about it and the more likely it is that it will happen the more i think it's a good idea, he could give us so many options he can play central or wide midfield or off the striker. He has the advantage with us when everyone is fit that we have other threats Theo Cesc Ade Rvp so he isn't going to have so much pressure on him to make things happen on his own as he did with the Russkis and it's going to be more difficuilt for the opposition to mark him out of the game, which may have accounted for some of his poorer performances in the Euros.
Also looking at the downside how bad could he be, even if he only showed half the talent he has he's still going to be more of a threat than most of the midfielders we have now and if we had to get rid of him next season because he wasn't right assuming we get him for 15m or less we are still only going to lose a few million on him, i think if we could afford to let flamini go for f.a we could afford to take the chance of losing a few mil on what could turn out to be a hell of a player for us.
The Irish goalscoring "legend" that is tony cascarino said that arshavin would be a great buy for us and would fit seemlessly into our style of football and bring some goals from midfield
However he also echoed what most of us have said already in that we have other priorities that need addressing also I still dont see this transfer happening even though zenit have denied holding out for 20m
goonersid wrote:Thats the point, can we trust le boss, after Reyes, Hleb,Jeffers, Rosicky(cos we all knew how injury prone he was and not up to the physical sideof the prem),and then his failed attempt to buy the hapless Baptista.
Rosicky had no injury problems until after he signed for arsenal
And in the (few) premiership games he has played, he's been up to it physically.
I remember reading an interview with a Dortmund fan after we signed Rosicky who described him as, on his day a world class player but also very inconsistent and injury prone....
augie wrote:The Irish goalscoring "legend" that is tony cascarino said that arshavin would be a great buy for us and would fit seemlessly into our style of football and bring some goals from midfield
However he also echoed what most of us have said already in that we have other priorities that need addressing also I still dont see this transfer happening even though zenit have denied holding out for 20m
goonersid wrote:Thats the point, can we trust le boss, after Reyes, Hleb,Jeffers, Rosicky(cos we all knew how injury prone he was and not up to the physical sideof the prem),and then his failed attempt to buy the hapless Baptista.
Rosicky had no injury problems until after he signed for arsenal
And in the (few) premiership games he has played, he's been up to it physically.
no sorry mate he was known to have injury problems at his last club
Last few seasons at Dortmund games played in all competitition
2003-04 19 games
2004-05 27 games
2005-06 28 games
Very like his history at Arsenal (injury prone), and thats before the longest hamstring problem in the history of sport.
Arsene Wenger is usually very quick to deny any transfer rumours that head Arsenal's way but he hasn't for Andrei Arshavin.
He obviously rates the Russian but the amount of publicity over the move has put slight doubts about it actually happening in my mind.
Arsene Wenger is very secretive about who his targets are and a signing normally comes out of the blue.
The Arshavin business has become very public, not Wenger's usual way, and I wonder if Zenit Saint Petersburg and Arshavin's agent are just using Arsenal's interest to try and create a last minute bidding war for the player.
A club like Manchester City who can throw silly money away may become interested because Wenger is and outbid Arsenal or anyone. I'm sure Zenit would prefer this.
Wenger has not denied any interest in Arshavin and why would he? It gives Gooners hope that a big name maybe arriving at the club but Wenger is smart enough to use the story to his advantage.
The media are over this like a rash and it gives Wenger an opportunity to sign someone else. While attention is drawn to the Arshavin deal, Wenger may use it as a smokescreen.
Who really knows though? He maybe actually trying to buy Arshavin!
I still dont see this transfer happening even though zenit have denied holding out for 20m
