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[MM99]

I think the point people are trying to make mate is that were getting worse, not improving like we should be. The Chelsea's, United's, Villa's, City's and dare i say it Spurs of the world are getting stronger, where as we Wenger seems to be happy just qualifying for Champions League every year.

Really? remind me again, where did we finish last season? And where are we now? Didnt the majority of people on here predict us finishing 6th or thereabouts? Again, what position are we in?

[Naki_Gooner]

Really? remind me again, where did we finish last season? And where are we now? Didnt the majority of people on here predict us finishing 6th or thereabouts? Again, what position are we in?[/quote]

Ask again at the end of the season.

[augie]

I think the point people are trying to make mate is that were getting worse, not improving like we should be. The Chelsea's, United's, Villa's, City's and dare i say it Spurs of the world are getting stronger, where as we Wenger seems to be happy just qualifying for Champions League every year.

Really? remind me again, where did we finish last season? And where are we now? Didnt the majority of people on here predict us finishing 6th or thereabouts? Again, what position are we in?

That in a nutshell is your (and wenger's) fcuking problem mate....you look at stats only I will say without a fear of being wrong that this is the worst season of the premier league since its inception but ye deluded fools will only see 3rd place (now) as an improvement on 4th last season and not see the way we are being comprehensively dismantled by the chavs and manyoo Ye also fail to recognise what could have been if wenger had of made a couple of quality purchases but hey as long as life is wonderful for ye in wengerland then great eh

[Percy Dalton]

I think the point people are trying to make mate is that were getting worse, not improving like we should be. The Chelsea's, United's, Villa's, City's and dare i say it Spurs of the world are getting stronger, where as we Wenger seems to be happy just qualifying for Champions League every year.

Really? remind me again, where did we finish last season? And where are we now? Didnt the majority of people on here predict us finishing 6th or thereabouts? Again, what position are we in?

THIRD!!!!!!!!!!





Wow aint we just fucking great!

[brazilianGOONER]

Bg, wenger is a very very poor tactician and make no mistake about it however what I said is that his tactics didnt cost us in paris 2006

mate, if he is a very very poor tactician like you say and our defence was flamini, senderos, touré and eboué, how the fuck we got to the final and that was the best defence in the history of the champions league??? or you admit they were excellent players our you admit our defensive tactics were excellent. which one, mate?

OH! I KNOW! wenger is surely the luckiest manager alive

i still haven't got an answer for that

[digger]

What a coincedence that Martin Keown was working with the defence at the time! Why the hell didnt we keep him as defensive coach!?

Very good point.

Average players playing as a unit > Top quality players playing as individuals.

Dixon - Adams - Bould - Winterburn were far from the best (most skillful, technical, two footed, athletic, etc) players in the world, but GG tying a rope round them and drilling them until they all ate and shat at the same time made them the most difficult defence to play against.

[flash gunner]

What a coincedence that Martin Keown was working with the defence at the time! Why the hell didnt we keep him as defensive coach!?

Very good point.

Average players playing as a unit > Top quality players playing as individuals.

Dixon - Adams - Bould - Winterburn were far from the best (most skillful, technical, two footed, athletic, etc) players in the world, but GG tying a rope round them and drilling them until they all ate and shat at the same time made them the most difficult defence to play against.

As much as i love Vermaelen getting his share of goals i like defenders to defend, then they can give the ball to more gifted players. The highlighted players defended like their life depended on it something that doesnt happen these days

[brazilianGOONER]

What a coincedence that Martin Keown was working with the defence at the time! Why the hell didnt we keep him as defensive coach!?

Very good point.

Average players playing as a unit > Top quality players playing as individuals.

Dixon - Adams - Bould - Winterburn were far from the best (most skillful, technical, two footed, athletic, etc) players in the world, but GG tying a rope round them and drilling them until they all ate and shat at the same time made them the most difficult defence to play against.

i didn't manage to see them as much as i would like, since arsenal matches only started being broadcasted regularly here around 2001, but it seemed to me that they were technically very good. of course i don't mean dribbling and volleying the ball, but they all tackled very well and adams and bould were unbeatable in the air. and they all looked like pretty inteligent players to me as well, unlike clichy for example

[digger]

i didn't manage to see them as much as i would like, since arsenal matches only started being broadcasted regularly here around 2001, but it seemed to me that they were technically very good. of course i don't mean dribbling and volleying the ball, but they all tackled very well and adams and bould were unbeatable in the air. and they all looked like pretty inteligent players to me as well, unlike clichy for example

They didn't spend any time on the ball (until Wenger arrived and liberated them). None of them used to get forwards (apart from Adams and Bould at corners - used to score a fair few, search for Sampdoria vs Arsenal highlights on youtube). Dixon and Winterburn rarely bombed forwards (although Rioch brought in a 5-3-2 formation for his one season which dragged them up the pitch a bit).

The Adams scoring a volley vs Everton after running 60 yards to latch onto Bould's 60 yard through ball is completely uncharacteristic of the "auld-back-four"

[xDAVEYx]

What a coincedence that Martin Keown was working with the defence at the time! Why the hell didnt we keep him as defensive coach!?

Very good point.

Average players playing as a unit > Top quality players playing as individuals.

Dixon - Adams - Bould - Winterburn were far from the best (most skillful, technical, two footed, athletic, etc) players in the world, but GG tying a rope round them and drilling them until they all ate and shat at the same time made them the most difficult defence to play against.

thats sig. material that is

[flash gunner]

What a coincedence that Martin Keown was working with the defence at the time! Why the hell didnt we keep him as defensive coach!?

Very good point.

Average players playing as a unit > Top quality players playing as individuals.

Dixon - Adams - Bould - Winterburn were far from the best (most skillful, technical, two footed, athletic, etc) players in the world, but GG tying a rope round them and drilling them until they all ate and shat at the same time made them the most difficult defence to play against.

i didn't manage to see them as much as i would like, since arsenal matches only started being broadcasted regularly here around 2001, but it seemed to me that they were technically very good. of course i don't mean dribbling and volleying the ball, but they all tackled very well and adams and bould were unbeatable in the air. and they all looked like pretty inteligent players to me as well, unlike clichy for example

They were beautiful in an ugly kind of way BG

[brazilianGOONER]

What a coincedence that Martin Keown was working with the defence at the time! Why the hell didnt we keep him as defensive coach!?

Very good point.

Average players playing as a unit > Top quality players playing as individuals.

Dixon - Adams - Bould - Winterburn were far from the best (most skillful, technical, two footed, athletic, etc) players in the world, but GG tying a rope round them and drilling them until they all ate and shat at the same time made them the most difficult defence to play against.

i didn't manage to see them as much as i would like, since arsenal matches only started being broadcasted regularly here around 2001, but it seemed to me that they were technically very good. of course i don't mean dribbling and volleying the ball, but they all tackled very well and adams and bould were unbeatable in the air. and they all looked like pretty inteligent players to me as well, unlike clichy for example

They were beautiful in an ugly kind of way BG

isn't that what defenders are all about?

[flash gunner]

What a coincedence that Martin Keown was working with the defence at the time! Why the hell didnt we keep him as defensive coach!?

Very good point.

Average players playing as a unit > Top quality players playing as individuals.

Dixon - Adams - Bould - Winterburn were far from the best (most skillful, technical, two footed, athletic, etc) players in the world, but GG tying a rope round them and drilling them until they all ate and shat at the same time made them the most difficult defence to play against.

i didn't manage to see them as much as i would like, since arsenal matches only started being broadcasted regularly here around 2001, but it seemed to me that they were technically very good. of course i don't mean dribbling and volleying the ball, but they all tackled very well and adams and bould were unbeatable in the air. and they all looked like pretty inteligent players to me as well, unlike clichy for example

They were beautiful in an ugly kind of way BG

isn't that what defenders are all about?

What they used to/should be about, yes

[I Hate Hleb]

I think the point people are trying to make mate is that were getting worse, not improving like we should be. The Chelsea's, United's, Villa's, City's and dare i say it Spurs of the world are getting stronger, where as we Wenger seems to be happy just qualifying for Champions League every year.

Really? remind me again, where did we finish last season? And where are we now? Didnt the majority of people on here predict us finishing 6th or thereabouts? Again, what position are we in?

Can we please stop repeating this myth that 'the majority of people on here predicted 5th or 6th' at the start of the season? It's something that's started creeping into more than one or two of the 'Arsene Knows' crews defence of the manager's failure to address our problems with some transfer activity.

The fact is that in all (and yes, there was more than one!!) of the prediction polls done pre-season, the majority voted that we would have a top 4 finish. Yes, there was a sizeable minority that feared we might finish lower than fourth, but despite attempts to portray otherwise, that isn't 'most' or 'the majority'!!!

[Reg Niseth]

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