WELL DONE ARSENE!

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gus ceasar is a legend
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WELL DONE ARSENE!

Post by gus ceasar is a legend »

While your comments about the noise levels at games may have some founding it was wrong to personally hang us out to dry at the clubs AGM.

I have looked at several papers this morning and each of them has picked up on the comments and used them as a stick to beat us with! Great ammunition for our rivals to have a pop at us with.

Thanks for that! Fucking idiot.

Is it not double standards that you are allowed to moan about the fans but we cannot be discontent with the team? It smacks of that to me.

If you want more atmosphere then look closer to home and ask the club to readdress the clubs stewarding policy and your own policies with regards to the playing staff.

There is discontentment for one reason only and that is the failure to win anything for several years and already finding ourselves off the pace this season in the league. Winning trophies is your responsibility and not an unreasonable expectation.

Statements about how the clubs shares have risen from £400 to £7000 do nothing to lift your average supporters mood. I, like most supporters,don't have any shares so fuck all of £400 or £7000 is still fuck all!

If you want to appease me and the others like me then give us something to get excited about. We all saw what happened last season due to a lack of squad strength and as nothing has been done to rectify that then please excuse me if I am not the happiest of bunnies.

On the day the club unveil a bust in your honour you decide to attack the heart and soul of that club, the fans!

Sorry Arsene but you are bang out of order to blame the fans when your own house has not been in order since 2004!

Get your end right and you will see a marked improvement in ours!

Once again, cheers you fucking idiot!

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In fairness to Wenger, our support is fucking shite, and it's gradually got worse since he took over. I don't think him writing programme notes continually praising our support is helping, it just breeds complacency in and amongst the fans. Yes, out support is shit, and all you "new" supporters who've taken to Arsenal since Wenger took over, you're part of "the twelfth man". If you're going to sit there doing fuck all for 90 mins, you have no right to slag Adebayor off for doing the same.

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Post by REB »

and who is at fault for all that digger , its the club , by putting up the prices, letting the rich jump to the top of the st list and getting over zealous stewards telling everyone sit down,

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REBEL GOONER wrote:and who is at fault for all that digger , its the club , by putting up the prices, letting the rich jump to the top of the st list and getting over zealous stewards telling everyone sit down,
Can't argue with that, the club attracts the wrong sort of person now (PHFC and all it's mates). It's a chicken and egg situation, but can't disagree with giving people a kick up the arse for it.

Best thing would be for the club to actually try to plan some sort of "singing section" (however ***** that may sound).... either the lower tier at both ends (the FE shouldn't be where it is), or make the back few rows of each block a "standing and singing like a loon is ok" section.

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Post by gus ceasar is a legend »

You are missing the point fellas!

Like I say there is some truth to what Wenger says but to publicly shame your fans as a whole is a cheap shot and particulary fucking off to those who do our best to raise the noise levels!

There is a time and a place for these sort of comments and it is not at the AGM when the nations press are in full attendance!

:banghead:

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Post by digger »

gus ceasar is a legend wrote:You are missing the point fellas!

Like I say there is some truth to what Wenger says but to publicly shame your fans as a whole is a cheap shot and particulary fucking off to those who do our best to raise the noise levels!

There is a time and a place for these sort of comments and it is not at the AGM when the nations press are in full attendance!

:banghead:
Other managers do it, SAF has done on several occasions (there's no disputing he's a *word censored* though), Mourinho (likewise). Whenever AW said it, whether it was in the programme notes, over the tannoy at AG or at the AGM, the press would have picked it up and used it as a stick to beat the "Highbury Library" with.

Agree that the stewards need to let standing and chanting slide, rather than letting the "grass a gooner" service exist to further dampen things.

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Post by gus ceasar is a legend »

Athe end of the day the manager is responsible for the teams results and success!

If he had done better lately and stopped spouting bullshit we might have more to shout about.

:roll:

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Post by barnfield88 »

As soon as the team are winning trophies, will the fans be thanked? Dont think so...

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Post by SWLGooner »

Look, I'm a new fan and was an armchair fan. I sit in club level. SO, WHAT THE FUCK ARSENE!! I SING AND I STAND SOME OF THE TIME!! WHY THE FUCK DO YOU COMPLAIN WHEN IT IS 50% YOUR OWN FUCKING FAULT??!!

Sorry, but it is not only the failure to win anything, but it tis the CLUB DISAPPROVING OF ATMOSPHERE! I have been asked to be quiet on quite a few occasions, and if I had a typical steward, I would be in trouble. It's a FUCKING JOKE.
Not only do the club disencourage atmosphere, they complain. And they don't attempt to help us in any way. They could help with the cards. They dont.
SHUT IT ARSENE!!

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Post by augie »

Sometimes it is very easy to see why rival fans call our manager arsene whinger - he blames poor refereeing decisions, an unlucky amount of injuries and now of course it is the fans fault for not supporting his young team enough :roll: All this of course nicely deflects attention away from the gross mismanagement by wenger in doing fcuk all to remedy the lack of quality in certain areas and a general lack of depth in the squad. Of course the media have picked up on his comments and I think wenger knew that they would report on that rather than any dissatisfaction from shareholders on a lack of transfers so wenger sacrificed us rather than take the heat himself :x Give it another while and he'll blame the pitch or weather or the allignment of the stars but in the meantime we'll be left to take the flak from all and sundry

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Why shoud we of stopped signing just beacuse we haven't won anything. That sounds wrong to me, if you need to win a game or be winning a game to create an atmosphere then something is wrong. And this is obviousally what has happend with us. We only sing when were winning, sing when were winning. Unfortuantly this is true and prehaps even endorsed by some.

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Post by nuttygoonerpaul »

:barscarf: get rid of the seats in lower tier,s bring back standing , get the old gangs back like in the north bank /clock end with the singing etc , good old days , then maybe u would get a atmosphere in the ground ,

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Post by hanny73 »

digger wrote:In fairness to Wenger, our support is fucking shite, and it's gradually got worse since he took over. I don't think him writing programme notes continually praising our support is helping, it just breeds complacency in and amongst the fans. Yes, out support is shit, and all you "new" supporters who've taken to Arsenal since Wenger took over, you're part of "the twelfth man". If you're going to sit there doing fuck all for 90 mins, you have no right to slag Adebayor off for doing the same.
Actually any paying fan has every right to slag off any player they wish.

The difference between Adabayor doing fuck all for 90 mins vs. the fans is about £80,000 a week in his favour.

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Magic Merse wrote:Why shoud we of stopped signing just beacuse we haven't won anything. That sounds wrong to me, if you need to win a game or be winning a game to create an atmosphere then something is wrong. And this is obviousally what has happend with us. We only sing when were winning, sing when were winning. Unfortuantly this is true and prehaps even endorsed by some.
Well i couldn't have put it better

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Post by gus ceasar is a legend »

tinpot lane wrote:
Magic Merse wrote:Why shoud we of stopped signing just beacuse we haven't won anything. That sounds wrong to me, if you need to win a game or be winning a game to create an atmosphere then something is wrong. And this is obviousally what has happend with us. We only sing when were winning, sing when were winning. Unfortuantly this is true and prehaps even endorsed by some.
Well i couldn't have put it better
No, that is taking it to an extreme!

There is an air of discontentment running through the supporters due to a lck of results and increasingly obvious problems being rectified. Added to this is the SS style of stewardship[ at the ground where you are encouraged to sit down and to shut the fuck up!

Of course you should sing through the good times and bad but it is simply human nature to be even more vocal in your support when you are successful!

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